The Conundrum of the Hannebery Trade

[CarlD]

Rumour mill now has the Swans looking at Gaff on the back of losing Hannebery etc.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/rumou ... fccf6a1431

[degruch]

Rumour mill now has the Swans looking at Gaff on the back of losing Hannebery etc.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/rumou ... fccf6a1431

There goes the cap space theory then...so they're offloading him why?

[Cairnsman]

So are we happy to hand over our 1st rounda?

[CarlD]

So are we happy to hand over our 1st rounda?

No way

Even Robbo on AFL360 the other night couldn’t understand why the Saints would be chasing Hannebery.

Every man and his dog has ventured their opinion that the Saints need more pace and skill. This potential trade just doesn’t fit the bill. And if we are assisting the Swans in building a war chest to possibly take a trade target away from the Saints then that is another reason to look elsewhere.

[degruch]

So are we happy to hand over our 1st rounda?

No way

Even Robbo on AFL360 the other night couldn’t understand why the Saints would be chasing Hannebery.

Every man and his dog has ventured their opinion that the Saints need more pace and skill. This potential trade just doesn’t fit the bill. And if we are assisting the Swans in building a war chest to possibly take a trade target away from the Saints then that is another reason to look elsewhere.

I believe its the experience and onfield leadership that's more the appeal...this is our Hodge trade...but I think it's misguided. Leaving the Swans stuck with him and blowing them out of the water on the Gaff deal would be incentive enough for me not to go through with it.

[bigred]

I think it must be a part of a bigger picture in regards to rebuilding the midfield around Steven, Ross and probably Steele. Must be more players involved.



I still dont know why he even wants to come here....

[Sainternist]

Would prefer McCartin for Hannebery straight swap. Both have body issues. McCartin younger and can develop with his brother for the post Franklin era. Hannebery proven champ if his body gets right but only 3 - 5 years left.

Interesting hypothetical. With McCartin's brother already at Sydney, it actually seems plausible.

Not the worst idea. One banged up, high risk player for another.

We can’t afford to pay overs for Hannebery. The Swans seem pretty keen to get him off their books, which says something to me.

The Swans wanting to get him off their books is actually pretty simple and not just about Hanner's body. In the next 3 years, they have to find cap space/money for: -

Florent
Hayward
Mills
Heaney
McCartin

Precisely. With the amount they have being paying the likes Franklin it has created quite a salary cap squeeze for them.

[Sainternist]

I think it must be a part of a bigger picture in regards to rebuilding the midfield around Steven, Ross and probably Steele. Must be more players involved.



I still dont know why he even wants to come here....

I think a big part of it is Hanners being close family friends with Sexfiend Simon.

[Zed]

Recruiting Hanners has nothing to do with a 3 or 5 year rebuild and everything to do with winning more games in 2019. Yes we will offer him a long tem contract to get him over the line - but its a 1 year strategy that involves winning more games in 2019 (8 - 12) and then hoping like hell the new coaching structure will have developed enough of the young talent so that in 2020 the likes of Acres, Billings, Gresh, DMac, Austin, Long, etc will have developed sufficiently to smooth over the decline of Hanners, Brown and other temporary fixes - and keep us in the 10-12 win range.

Lethers is smart enough to know the club wont survive if we have another year like 2018. I expect there will be a drop in membership revenue in 2019 as a result of 2018 performance. A large number of members will reluctantly renew for 2019, but another 4 win season in 2019 will see a mass exodus of members - and star players. That will put the club in a death spiral that it wont be able to get out of without AFL intervention.
So I fully expect to see more players with a short term life span targeted to try and help us win games in 2019.

[Viking3]

People cry about our development of players and yet a fantastic trainer and on field leader like Hannerbry becomes available to us still piss and moan.

Well said Curly! Spot on with the piss and moan.
I don't read as much on here as I used to because of the pissing and moaning.
Don't see much Fidelius happening.

4 lines between the two of you....nothing constructive, nothing positive, yet you accuse others of "pissing and moaning" why are you wasting your time on here? You probably <edited by mods> your bed every night too ....<edited by mods>

Hey Chico,
If I was a <edited by mods>, I wouldn't be <edited by mods> whilst in my bed!
Go <edited by mods> yourself!!

<warning for abuse>

[fugazi]

So are we happy to hand over our 1st rounda?

No way

Even Robbo on AFL360 the other night couldn’t understand why the Saints would be chasing Hannebery.

Every man and his dog has ventured their opinion that the Saints need more pace and skill. This potential trade just doesn’t fit the bill. And if we are assisting the Swans in building a war chest to possibly take a trade target away from the Saints then that is another reason to look elsewhere.

I believe its the experience and onfield leadership that's more the appeal...this is our Hodge trade...but I think it's misguided. Leaving the Swans stuck with him and blowing them out of the water on the Gaff deal would be incentive enough for me not to go through with it.

We should have them over a barrel then if they commit to Gaff in the FA period they will have to deal on our terms.
3rd rounder or possibly whatever we get for Lonie or Hickey.

[sunsaint]

Sydney just cut 6th knee reco Alex Johnson - we should be all over this before other clubs swoop...

[Flagless]

Im absolutely aghast that they are even considering Hannebery. He's exactly what we dont need, slow, banged up body and poor by foot. No doubt he was a gun, but you dont recruit someone on what they once were, you recruit for what they will be in the future. This will turn into another saints recruiting disaster

[DJ Higgins]

Like most I don't like this one bit but lets cool the jets for the time being. We only have speculation on the offer and the length so it may not be that long or that expensive. There are also rumours that swans will foot part of his salary to make us take him, but again these are rumours. I do hope however that there are performance clauses in his contract and termination clauses as well in case he cant get his body right. I don't have faith in our medicos after the Paddy (diabetic) and Freeman (Hamstring) decisions even if they say he is right to play.

It seems that he is on the way so we have no choice but to accept this and get behind him. Welcome Hanners

[nw7]

I don't mind bringing him and I'm sure we wont use our first pick. I think the Swans need CAP space. Even though he was well below his best this year I believe having a proven player, AA & Premiership player on the list will help show our young guys the way to go about it. Our 22 yrs and under players are learning from Geary and Ross, the hard running and training by Hannebery will be a lot more influential than just his on field performance. I looking forward to the changes being made after such a demoralising year.

[chico2001]

Terry Wallace on radio was absolutely scathing on the saints picking up Hannebery. he just could not get his head around it. He listed reasons as well, much as many of our posters have here.

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

No 1st rounder will ever be involved. Only 2nd rounder as a minimum, maybe 3rd rounder.

[elizabethr]

Why would you bother?