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Re: No help for Rowan
so will AR throw Baroose in the ruck at various stages? And will Acres stay in to provide another ruck option?
He's reverted to old bad habits. Leave Baroose and Blacres out of the flamin ruck, it RUINS them
He's reverted to old bad habits. Leave Baroose and Blacres out of the flamin ruck, it RUINS them
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Re: No help for Rowan
When did he ever stop...WellardSaint wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 7:46pm so will AR throw Baroose in the ruck at various stages? And will Acres stay in to provide another ruck option?
He's reverted to old bad habits. Leave Baroose and Blacres out of the flamin ruck, it RUINS them
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Re: No help for Rowan
Asking a lot of Marshall to take on and beat both McEvoy and Ceglar. I'd have picked another ruck specialist
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Re: No help for Rowan
Yes, Jack Reiwoldt, Taylor Walker, Patrick Cripps, Nat Fyfe, etc etc all played in the ruck. It ruins them. So many clubs copying Richo. Trendsetter.skeptic wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 8:15pmWhen did he ever stop...WellardSaint wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 7:46pm so will AR throw Baroose in the ruck at various stages? And will Acres stay in to provide another ruck option?
He's reverted to old bad habits. Leave Baroose and Blacres out of the flamin ruck, it RUINS them
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Re: No help for Rowan
Had a few discussions on this forum with ex posters.... adamant you couldn't play two ruckman... despite Hawks great success... the only premiership they lost was when Cigler ( or whoever was the second ruck during their three peat) was out injured and they went in with one ruck
We should play Pierce or Longer ( if they are fit enough . Rowan shorter spells and move him forward resting around the pocket.. Judy my opinion... fwiw
We should play Pierce or Longer ( if they are fit enough . Rowan shorter spells and move him forward resting around the pocket.. Judy my opinion... fwiw
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Re: No help for Rowan
Had a few discussions on this forum with ex posters.... adamant you couldn't play two ruckman... despite Hawks great success... the only premiership they lost was when Cigler ( or whoever was the second ruck during their three peat) was out injured and they went in with one ruck
We should play Pierce or Longer ( if they are fit enough . Rowan shorter spells and move him forward resting around the pocket.. Judy my opinion... fwiw
We should play Pierce or Longer ( if they are fit enough . Rowan shorter spells and move him forward resting around the pocket.. Judy my opinion... fwiw
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Re: No help for Rowan
Had a few discussions on this forum with ex posters.... adamant you couldn't play two ruckman... despite Hawks great success... the only premiership they lost was when Cigler ( or whoever was the second ruck during their three peat) was out injured and they went in with one ruck
We should play Pierce or Longer ( if they are fit enough . Rowan shorter spells and move him forward resting around the pocket.. Judy my opinion... fwiw
We should play Pierce or Longer ( if they are fit enough . Rowan shorter spells and move him forward resting around the pocket.. Judy my opinion... fwiw
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Re: No help for Rowan
Had a few discussions on this forum with ex posters.... adamant you couldn't play two ruckman... despite Hawks great success... the only premiership they lost was when Cigler ( or whoever was the second ruck during their three peat) was out injured and they went in with one ruck
We should play Pierce or Longer ( if they are fit enough . Rowan shorter spells and move him forward resting around the pocket.. Judy my opinion... fwiw
We should play Pierce or Longer ( if they are fit enough . Rowan shorter spells and move him forward resting around the pocket.. Judy my opinion... fwiw
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Re: No help for Rowan
West Coast had the biggest team in the comp last season... of course, it depends who your bigs are... but blind freddy can see that we require another ruck option to help Marshall.supersaints2 wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 8:54pm Had a few discussions on this forum with ex posters.... adamant you couldn't play two ruckman... despite Hawks great success... the only premiership they lost was when Cigler ( or whoever was the second ruck during their three peat) was out injured and they went in with one ruck
We should play Pierce or Longer ( if they are fit enough . Rowan shorter spells and move him forward resting around the pocket.. Judy my opinion... fwiw
Our fwd line is already too small. Even if its another tall down back to allow Battle fwd.. maybe joyce comes in for that reason.. but who knows..
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Re: No help for Rowan
Strange post.takeaway wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 8:42pmYes, Jack Reiwoldt, Taylor Walker, Patrick Cripps, Nat Fyfe, etc etc all played in the ruck. It ruins them. So many clubs copying Richo. Trendsetter.skeptic wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 8:15pmWhen did he ever stop...WellardSaint wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 7:46pm so will AR throw Baroose in the ruck at various stages? And will Acres stay in to provide another ruck option?
He's reverted to old bad habits. Leave Baroose and Blacres out of the flamin ruck, it RUINS them
Are you arguing that it’s working well for us? Is there an alternate universe where Acres was BOG last week.
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Re: No help for Rowan
Two rucks is working well for Demons tonight. Works well for the reigning premiers, too. They've been playing two rucks plus three tall forwards.
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Re: No help for Rowan
Richmond, Adelaide and Carlton have been underwhelming thus far. The trend isn't working.skeptic wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 10:09pmStrange post.takeaway wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 8:42pmYes, Jack Reiwoldt, Taylor Walker, Patrick Cripps, Nat Fyfe, etc etc all played in the ruck. It ruins them. So many clubs copying Richo. Trendsetter.skeptic wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 8:15pmWhen did he ever stop...WellardSaint wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 7:46pm so will AR throw Baroose in the ruck at various stages? And will Acres stay in to provide another ruck option?
He's reverted to old bad habits. Leave Baroose and Blacres out of the flamin ruck, it RUINS them
Are you arguing that it’s working well for us? Is there an alternate universe where Acres was BOG last week.
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Re: No help for Rowan
I think it was Phil Collins who theorised ...
"Two rucks, believing in just one gameplan
Rucking together till the end of time-on
You know we're two rucks believing in just one gameplan
Together forever till the end of time-on"
"Two rucks, believing in just one gameplan
Rucking together till the end of time-on
You know we're two rucks believing in just one gameplan
Together forever till the end of time-on"
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Re: No help for Rowan
No, Hawks have 2 rucks, I would have had Longer in, but maybe he is not ready. Pierce not showing much form. Hence according to form/availability, one ruck selected, with relief provided by Bruce, Wilkie, Acres, etc. So we are just doing the same as other teams with one main ruck - Tigers used Jack R, Cripps is used for Blues, Fyfe at boundary throw ins, and plenty of others. So these clubs are also ruining those players? Not just "bad habits" by Saints only. That was my point.skeptic wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 10:09pmStrange post.takeaway wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 8:42pmYes, Jack Reiwoldt, Taylor Walker, Patrick Cripps, Nat Fyfe, etc etc all played in the ruck. It ruins them. So many clubs copying Richo. Trendsetter.skeptic wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 8:15pmWhen did he ever stop...WellardSaint wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 7:46pm so will AR throw Baroose in the ruck at various stages? And will Acres stay in to provide another ruck option?
He's reverted to old bad habits. Leave Baroose and Blacres out of the flamin ruck, it RUINS them
Are you arguing that it’s working well for us? Is there an alternate universe where Acres was BOG last week.
They also may not wish to lose pace by adding another ruck. Not sure what you are getting at in comment re Acres.
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Re: No help for Rowan
It's all Richo's fault.
I blame Richo for taking 177 years to build the Tower of Pisa and only 10 years for it to start leaning.
What else...NASA losing a Mars orbiter because part of the team used metric units and the other half used English.
I blame Richo for taking 177 years to build the Tower of Pisa and only 10 years for it to start leaning.
What else...NASA losing a Mars orbiter because part of the team used metric units and the other half used English.
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Re: No help for Rowan
Who is Judy ?supersaints2 wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 8:54pm Had a few discussions on this forum with ex posters.... adamant you couldn't play two ruckman... despite Hawks great success... the only premiership they lost was when Cigler ( or whoever was the second ruck during their three peat) was out injured and they went in with one ruck
We should play Pierce or Longer ( if they are fit enough . Rowan shorter spells and move him forward resting around the pocket.. Judy my opinion... fwiw
The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
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Re: No help for Rowan
Just JudyWayne42 wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 11:55pmWho is Judy ?supersaints2 wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 8:54pm Had a few discussions on this forum with ex posters.... adamant you couldn't play two ruckman... despite Hawks great success... the only premiership they lost was when Cigler ( or whoever was the second ruck during their three peat) was out injured and they went in with one ruck
We should play Pierce or Longer ( if they are fit enough . Rowan shorter spells and move him forward resting around the pocket.. Judy my opinion... fwiw
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Re: No help for Rowan
Judge Judy?????takeaway wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 11:57pmJust JudyWayne42 wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 11:55pmWho is Judy ?supersaints2 wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 8:54pm Had a few discussions on this forum with ex posters.... adamant you couldn't play two ruckman... despite Hawks great success... the only premiership they lost was when Cigler ( or whoever was the second ruck during their three peat) was out injured and they went in with one ruck
We should play Pierce or Longer ( if they are fit enough . Rowan shorter spells and move him forward resting around the pocket.. Judy my opinion... fwiw
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Re: No help for Rowan
Yep. It is the trend now, with clubs really cautious that they are not top heavy. Having the midfielders that shark a losing ruckman is key.takeaway wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 8:42pmYes, Jack Reiwoldt, Taylor Walker, Patrick Cripps, Nat Fyfe, etc etc all played in the ruck. It ruins them. So many clubs copying Richo. Trendsetter.skeptic wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 8:15pmWhen did he ever stop...WellardSaint wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 7:46pm so will AR throw Baroose in the ruck at various stages? And will Acres stay in to provide another ruck option?
He's reverted to old bad habits. Leave Baroose and Blacres out of the flamin ruck, it RUINS them
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Re: No help for Rowan
So you don’t like this type of set up and would do something different if it was viable?takeaway wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 11:51pmNo, Hawks have 2 rucks, I would have had Longer in, but maybe he is not ready. Pierce not showing much form. Hence according to form/availability, one ruck selected, with relief provided by Bruce, Wilkie, Acres, etc. So we are just doing the same as other teams with one main ruck - Tigers used Jack R, Cripps is used for Blues, Fyfe at boundary throw ins, and plenty of others. So these clubs are also ruining those players? Not just "bad habits" by Saints only. That was my point.skeptic wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 10:09pmStrange post.takeaway wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 8:42pmYes, Jack Reiwoldt, Taylor Walker, Patrick Cripps, Nat Fyfe, etc etc all played in the ruck. It ruins them. So many clubs copying Richo. Trendsetter.skeptic wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 8:15pmWhen did he ever stop...WellardSaint wrote: ↑Thu 11 Apr 2019 7:46pm so will AR throw Baroose in the ruck at various stages? And will Acres stay in to provide another ruck option?
He's reverted to old bad habits. Leave Baroose and Blacres out of the flamin ruck, it RUINS them
Are you arguing that it’s working well for us? Is there an alternate universe where Acres was BOG last week.
They also may not wish to lose pace by adding another ruck. Not sure what you are getting at in comment re Acres.
I have to imagine however that you’re aware that we’ve been doing this heavily over 3 years with guys like Bruce, Gilbert, Paddy, Acres and Steel amongst the relief options.
See I just don’t understand what drives you to makes posts like these. Why are you trying to swat criticism away from something you don’t even agree with. Nowhere in this thread have I said it ruins players.
Yes I’m critical of Richo. In this instance the move with the ruck has repeatedly proven to be a failure...
Second ruck (the player who is not actually a ruck) gets beaten comprehensively in the middle. The Saints generally struggle more in the middle during this time.
It impacts said players performance in their primary role... Bruce’s output as a forward has dropped since he started doing it... hadn’t done anything for Acres, Steele or Paddy.
Development wise it’s done nothing for us. Pierce has languished Sandy not able to get games... ditto Marshall until injuries gave him a chance and both Hickey + Longer have struggled over years... pbly because they’re not good enough to carry a ruck division without any adequate support.
So all things considered what motivates my posts is that the move sucks, it has a detrimental impact on the team, and is a contributing factor to our stalling development.
But you... you’re motivated by what?
Having a dig at me because I irritate you? Wanting to stand up for the coach because he’s maligned?
Wanting to show you’re a good, loyal supporter?
Whatever your reason it’s not because you genuinely think this is a good move... but rather pushes the narrative of whatever personal agenda you want to push.
And your way of thinking is actually hurting the club as it contributes to the continuation of an obviously stupid move that objectively is terrible.
So much of this forum as of late is ppl pushing a personal agenda that’s not based on what is observably happening
- Hannebery out of our leadership group is a great sign/move
- Essendon and GC are great wins. Essendon are top 4 and GC aren’t terrible
- Paddy is looking good for a breakout year
- Longer is dominating the VFL with his presence (not just winning hit outs in beaten midfield and doing SFA else)
- Weller playing for Richmond vindicates Richo playing him relentlessly when he was in poor form
- Saints have played 3 games vs 3 non-finalists... 2 of which were decided by less than a kick and the other by a 3 goals and look to regenerated and be September bound
It’s quite hard to read
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Re: No help for Rowan
Prospects stats clearly match up with McEvoy.
Clearly.
Gets has three times the clearances than Ben and Ben has played an extra game.
Good god if Marshall gets a legit tank he could quite honestly be the next evolution of ruckman.
Clearly.
Gets has three times the clearances than Ben and Ben has played an extra game.
Good god if Marshall gets a legit tank he could quite honestly be the next evolution of ruckman.
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