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Post: # 1786585Post Leo.J »

For the people that don’t rate Richo, you’re playing it the wrong way.

You need to talk him up as a master tactician, so that hopefully Freo or Carlton will poach him.

...and then Rats will have the job.


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Enrico_Misso wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 1:34am Many of us have been critical of how the team was coached last year - including Richo himself.

Hard to say if the obvious improvement this year is due to
- the new assistants
- or Richo evolving
- or the players maturing
- or the addition of new players
- or improved fitness
- or some or all of the above

But three things are clear
- we are playing well and improving each week
- there is a real sense of team spirit and belief
- the playing group respect Richo

So let's put an end to all this talk of Richo being sacked.
Last season is ancient history.

We are on a new and exciting journey.
Let's unite behind the group and ride it out together.
Bloody well said. I'll say it agian: our poor showing in 2018 wasn't all Alan's fault despite some foramites valiantly and relentlessly trying to convince us otherwise. How wrong they were.

The sum of all parts to quote a cliche is what makes successful footy teams and Blind Freddy could see a few levers needed pulling. Thankfully calm heads prevailed within the admin.

Just so proud of how the club navigated through 2018 to now.


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Post: # 1786589Post Crossy66 »

Cairnsman wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 9:20am
Enrico_Misso wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 1:34am Many of us have been critical of how the team was coached last year - including Richo himself.

Hard to say if the obvious improvement this year is due to
- the new assistants
- or Richo evolving
- or the players maturing
- or the addition of new players
- or improved fitness
- or some or all of the above

But three things are clear
- we are playing well and improving each week
- there is a real sense of team spirit and belief
- the playing group respect Richo

So let's put an end to all this talk of Richo being sacked.
Last season is ancient history.

We are on a new and exciting journey.
Let's unite behind the group and ride it out together.
Bloody well said. I'll say it agian: our poor showing in 2018 wasn't all Alan's fault despite some foramites valiantly and relentlessly trying to convince us otherwise. How wrong they were.

The sum of all parts to quote a cliche is what makes successful footy teams and Blind Freddy could see a few levers needed pulling. Thankfully calm heads prevailed within the admin.

Just so proud of how the club navigated through 2018 to now.


FQF.
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Post: # 1786593Post saintkid »

Proud of the way the club is going so far this year and the team selections finally shows logic and continuity after 5 rounds but seriously, how do you explain some of the strange team selections that went on last year?
Richo's managing of the team in 2018 was a joke to say the least and his bland, boring persona equally as bad. I still have great reservations about him as our head coach but glad the club has brought in Ratten and a couple of others to breathe some life and hope into the list and more importantly, belief into the players. That is what stands out the most in the team this year, which is great to see.


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Post: # 1786594Post Teflon »

Make Richo footy Director
Give Ratten thejob - he’s the difference and was good at Carlton with what he had too before those idiots fell in love with higher profile coach


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Post: # 1786596Post Crossy66 »

Teflon wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 9:56am Make Richo footy Director
Give Ratten thejob - he’s the difference and was good at Carlton with what he had too before those idiots fell in love with higher profile coach
History shows that Carlton made a huge blue (pun intended) with Ratten. Seems he got the best out of the list he had. Even one of the coaching greats couldnt do better.
That said, we are doing well so dont rock the boat!


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Cairnsman wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 9:20am
Enrico_Misso wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 1:34am Many of us have been critical of how the team was coached last year - including Richo himself.

Hard to say if the obvious improvement this year is due to
- the new assistants
- or Richo evolving
- or the players maturing
- or the addition of new players
- or improved fitness
- or some or all of the above

But three things are clear
- we are playing well and improving each week
- there is a real sense of team spirit and belief
- the playing group respect Richo

So let's put an end to all this talk of Richo being sacked.
Last season is ancient history.

We are on a new and exciting journey.
Let's unite behind the group and ride it out together.
Bloody well said. I'll say it agian: our poor showing in 2018 wasn't all Alan's fault despite some foramites valiantly and relentlessly trying to convince us otherwise. How wrong they were.

The sum of all parts to quote a cliche is what makes successful footy teams and Blind Freddy could see a few levers needed pulling. Thankfully calm heads prevailed within the admin.

Just so proud of how the club navigated through 2018 to now.


FQF.
So 5 years at 33% wasn’t Richo’s fault? He was just along for the ride and had no control :roll:

The real test for the club and the Richo believers will be at the end of the season when a few clubs are looking for a head coach and come knocking Ratten’s way. Do we just let him walk and trust that Richo is all of a sudden a master coach?


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Post: # 1786599Post SaintPav »

Didn't think that Ratten was interested in being the head coach.

I think Richo is already a Director of coaching.


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Post: # 1786603Post Crossy66 »

The_Dud wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 10:08am
Cairnsman wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 9:20am
Enrico_Misso wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 1:34am Many of us have been critical of how the team was coached last year - including Richo himself.

Hard to say if the obvious improvement this year is due to
- the new assistants
- or Richo evolving
- or the players maturing
- or the addition of new players
- or improved fitness
- or some or all of the above

But three things are clear
- we are playing well and improving each week
- there is a real sense of team spirit and belief
- the playing group respect Richo

So let's put an end to all this talk of Richo being sacked.
Last season is ancient history.

We are on a new and exciting journey.
Let's unite behind the group and ride it out together.
Bloody well said. I'll say it agian: our poor showing in 2018 wasn't all Alan's fault despite some foramites valiantly and relentlessly trying to convince us otherwise. How wrong they were.

The sum of all parts to quote a cliche is what makes successful footy teams and Blind Freddy could see a few levers needed pulling. Thankfully calm heads prevailed within the admin.

Just so proud of how the club navigated through 2018 to now.


FQF.
So 5 years at 33% wasn’t Richo’s fault? He was just along for the ride and had no control :roll:

The real test for the club and the Richo believers will be at the end of the season when a few clubs are looking for a head coach and come knocking Ratten’s way. Do we just let him walk and trust that Richo is all of a sudden a master coach?
Gotta love Stats!
Heres another way to look at it.
2016 54.5%
2017 50.0 %
2019 80%
Thats a record comparable to many. So you'd agree at this level he is going ok? so 3 of his six years have been OK?

No doubt 2018 was a car crash and he has duly copped a kicking for it, but it could end up being an aberration.( like Hardwick in 2016 with 36%)
Richo's first year at 18.2% drags down the stat, but then again he took over a team that was 3rd last and falling having off loaded stars due to salary cap issues such as Goddard and Dal.

In my view, Richo is a far better coach now than when he started. Its not unreasonable that people can get better at their job with more experience is it.?
If you look at Hardwick by comparison:
2010 - 27.27%
2011 - 38.64%
2016 - 36.36%

Not exactly Alan Jeans territory either.
Fair to say a large chunk of Richmond supporters wanted him gone with two board challenges making his sacking a key plank going forward.
The point is, its possible that a first year inexperienced senior coach can get better over time.
There are no excuses for Alan now, he has done his apprenticeship, has got the support and is expected to get results.
Theres more to a story than skewed stats!


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saintkid wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 9:47am Proud of the way the club is going so far this year and the team selections finally shows logic and continuity after 5 rounds but seriously, how do you explain some of the strange team selections that went on last year?
Richo's managing of the team in 2018 was a joke to say the least and his bland, boring persona equally as bad. I still have great reservations about him as our head coach but glad the club has brought in Ratten and a couple of others to breathe some life and hope into the list and more importantly, belief into the players. That is what stands out the most in the team this year, which is great to see.
Your claims of the management being a joke are ignorant to the enormous challenges faced in 2018.

Firslty count the signficant experience and knowledge base that retired and walked out the door en masse the previous season. This event alone would have stretched any manager and is why the club realised it couldn't blame Alan alone for this issue and recognised it had to replace that support around Alan.

Then the perfect storm happened, a significant injury list grew that included significant and vitally important players from the best 22.

Then throw in some other niggles like the move and settling in back to Moorabbin and some of the staff changes.

There were a lot of balls up in the air so team selections were challenging. Blind Freddy could see that and thankfully Blind Freddy took a deep breath.

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The Fireman wrote: Sun 21 Apr 2019 10:42pm
twirlyhair wrote: Sun 21 Apr 2019 7:27pm
The Fireman wrote: Sun 21 Apr 2019 10:54am richo could leave now and I feel the side would carry on just nicely.
I just love how someone who has never met the guy, nor stepped inside the organisation to see what work they actually do, could be so arrogant to post such an imbecilic comment.
P.s, I think you are crap at your job. Just sayin.
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Post: # 1786610Post The_Dud »

Crossy66 wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 10:50am
The_Dud wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 10:08am
Cairnsman wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 9:20am
Enrico_Misso wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 1:34am Many of us have been critical of how the team was coached last year - including Richo himself.

Hard to say if the obvious improvement this year is due to
- the new assistants
- or Richo evolving
- or the players maturing
- or the addition of new players
- or improved fitness
- or some or all of the above

But three things are clear
- we are playing well and improving each week
- there is a real sense of team spirit and belief
- the playing group respect Richo

So let's put an end to all this talk of Richo being sacked.
Last season is ancient history.

We are on a new and exciting journey.
Let's unite behind the group and ride it out together.
Bloody well said. I'll say it agian: our poor showing in 2018 wasn't all Alan's fault despite some foramites valiantly and relentlessly trying to convince us otherwise. How wrong they were.

The sum of all parts to quote a cliche is what makes successful footy teams and Blind Freddy could see a few levers needed pulling. Thankfully calm heads prevailed within the admin.

Just so proud of how the club navigated through 2018 to now.


FQF.
So 5 years at 33% wasn’t Richo’s fault? He was just along for the ride and had no control :roll:

The real test for the club and the Richo believers will be at the end of the season when a few clubs are looking for a head coach and come knocking Ratten’s way. Do we just let him walk and trust that Richo is all of a sudden a master coach?
Gotta love Stats!
Heres another way to look at it.
2016 54.5%
2017 50.0 %
2019 80%
Thats a record comparable to many. So you'd agree at this level he is going ok? so 3 of his six years have been OK?

No doubt 2018 was a car crash and he has duly copped a kicking for it, but it could end up being an aberration.( like Hardwick in 2016 with 36%)
Richo's first year at 18.2% drags down the stat, but then again he took over a team that was 3rd last and falling having off loaded stars due to salary cap issues such as Goddard and Dal.

In my view, Richo is a far better coach now than when he started. Its not unreasonable that people can get better at their job with more experience is it.?
If you look at Hardwick by comparison:
2010 - 27.27%
2011 - 38.64%
2016 - 36.36%

Not exactly Alan Jeans territory either.
Fair to say a large chunk of Richmond supporters wanted him gone with two board challenges making his sacking a key plank going forward.
The point is, its possible that a first year inexperienced senior coach can get better over time.
There are no excuses for Alan now, he has done his apprenticeship, has got the support and is expected to get results.
Theres more to a story than skewed stats!
C’mon dude, surely you understand cherry-picking stats to suit your argument isn’t the best way to do business!

I could say look at 2014, 2015 and 2018, Richo’s winning percentage is 21%!!!

5 years and 100+ games coached is quite a large sample size to be drawing from. Over that time he’s going at 33% and no finals. He peaked in the middle so you couldn’t even say it was trending upwards. 2014 we had 4 wins, 2018 we had 4.5 wins. So after 5 years we had half a win of improvement.

5 years is enough time to build YOUR list and YOUR team around you. Look at what our other recent long serving coaches achieved in 5 years.

And the most damning thing in my eyes is that after five years the club has had to basically rebuild Richo and the whole off field department from the ground up, which seems to me like admitting the past 5 years have been an absolute failure, and if we could afford it he would be gone.

And just a note, I’m not saying Richo is a bad bloke or doesn’t know football, just that this job is not for him.


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True Believer wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 11:18am
The Fireman wrote: Sun 21 Apr 2019 10:42pm
twirlyhair wrote: Sun 21 Apr 2019 7:27pm
The Fireman wrote: Sun 21 Apr 2019 10:54am richo could leave now and I feel the side would carry on just nicely.
I just love how someone who has never met the guy, nor stepped inside the organisation to see what work they actually do, could be so arrogant to post such an imbecilic comment.
P.s, I think you are crap at your job. Just sayin.
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asiu wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 10:39am
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easy

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The_Dud wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 11:20am

C’mon dude, surely you understand cherry-picking stats to suit your argument isn’t the best way to do business!

I could say look at 2014, 2015 and 2018, Richo’s winning percentage is 21%!!!

5 years and 100+ games coached is quite a large sample size to be drawing from. Over that time he’s going at 33% and no finals. He peaked in the middle so you couldn’t even say it was trending upwards. 2014 we had 4 wins, 2018 we had 4.5 wins. So after 5 years we had half a win of improvement.

5 years is enough time to build YOUR list and YOUR team around you. Look at what our other recent long serving coaches achieved in 5 years.

And the most damning thing in my eyes is that after five years the club has had to basically rebuild Richo and the whole off field department from the ground up, which seems to me like admitting the past 5 years have been an absolute failure, and if we could afford it he would be gone.

And just a note, I’m not saying Richo is a bad bloke or doesn’t know football, just that this job is not for him.
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Cairnsman wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 10:59am
saintkid wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 9:47am Proud of the way the club is going so far this year and the team selections finally shows logic and continuity after 5 rounds but seriously, how do you explain some of the strange team selections that went on last year?
Richo's managing of the team in 2018 was a joke to say the least and his bland, boring persona equally as bad. I still have great reservations about him as our head coach but glad the club has brought in Ratten and a couple of others to breathe some life and hope into the list and more importantly, belief into the players. That is what stands out the most in the team this year, which is great to see.
Your claims of the management being a joke are ignorant to the enormous challenges faced in 2018.

Firslty count the signficant experience and knowledge base that retired and walked out the door en masse the previous season. This event alone would have stretched any manager and is why the club realised it couldn't blame Alan alone for this issue and recognised it had to replace that support around Alan.

Then the perfect storm happened, a significant injury list grew that included significant and vitally important players from the best 22.

Then throw in some other niggles like the move and settling in back to Moorabbin and some of the staff changes.

There were a lot of balls up in the air so team selections were challenging. Blind Freddy could see that and thankfully Blind Freddy took a deep breath.

Free thinking comes from balanced and objective assessment of all the information, not just what you read in the Herald Sun.
My comments have come from balanced and objective assessment of all the information. The continued playing of Weller and a few others and the merry go round playing and dropping of some of the younger listed players in 2018 was strange to say the least and I stand by that. There was no continuity in team selection last year, irrespective of injuries, as you claim. This year there have also been a number of injuries to key players but team selection has not make me confused or bewildered like the weekly show in 2018. Mentoring and developing new talent has been quite substandard on the part of Richardson to date. In my opinion, his long-term signing was short-sighted and he isn't the best option as head coach. Thank goodness management saw the need to get Ratten and a few other experienced heads to help him this year.


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saintkid wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 11:36am
Cairnsman wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 10:59am
saintkid wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 9:47am Proud of the way the club is going so far this year and the team selections finally shows logic and continuity after 5 rounds but seriously, how do you explain some of the strange team selections that went on last year?
Richo's managing of the team in 2018 was a joke to say the least and his bland, boring persona equally as bad. I still have great reservations about him as our head coach but glad the club has brought in Ratten and a couple of others to breathe some life and hope into the list and more importantly, belief into the players. That is what stands out the most in the team this year, which is great to see.
Your claims of the management being a joke are ignorant to the enormous challenges faced in 2018.

Firslty count the signficant experience and knowledge base that retired and walked out the door en masse the previous season. This event alone would have stretched any manager and is why the club realised it couldn't blame Alan alone for this issue and recognised it had to replace that support around Alan.

Then the perfect storm happened, a significant injury list grew that included significant and vitally important players from the best 22.

Then throw in some other niggles like the move and settling in back to Moorabbin and some of the staff changes.

There were a lot of balls up in the air so team selections were challenging. Blind Freddy could see that and thankfully Blind Freddy took a deep breath.

Free thinking comes from balanced and objective assessment of all the information, not just what you read in the Herald Sun.
My comments have come from balanced and objective assessment of all the information. The continued playing of Weller and a few others and the merry go round playing and dropping of some of the younger listed players in 2018 was strange to say the least and I stand by that. There was no continuity in team selection last year, irrespective of injuries, as you claim. This year there have also been a number of injuries to key players but team selection has not make me confused or bewildered like the weekly show in 2018. Mentoring and developing new talent has been quite substandard on the part of Richardson to date. In my opinion, his long-term signing was short-sighted and he isn't the best option as head coach. Thank goodness management saw the need to get Ratten and a few other experienced heads to help him this year.
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Shaggy wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 12:55am
The Fireman wrote: Sun 21 Apr 2019 10:42pm
twirlyhair wrote: Sun 21 Apr 2019 7:27pm
The Fireman wrote: Sun 21 Apr 2019 10:54am richo could leave now and I feel the side would carry on just nicely.
I just love how someone who has never met the guy, nor stepped inside the organisation to see what work they actually do, could be so arrogant to post such an imbecilic comment.
P.s, I think you are crap at your job. Just sayin.
can you be crap at being retired ?
A lot of people cause chaos on social media when they retire. They have nothing better to do.

Just sayin.
Some people create chaos before they retire and then create more chaos on social media when they retire to their harbourside mansion.
He has nothing better to do.
Just sayin
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saintkid wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 11:36am
Cairnsman wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 10:59am
saintkid wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 9:47am Proud of the way the club is going so far this year and the team selections finally shows logic and continuity after 5 rounds but seriously, how do you explain some of the strange team selections that went on last year?
Richo's managing of the team in 2018 was a joke to say the least and his bland, boring persona equally as bad. I still have great reservations about him as our head coach but glad the club has brought in Ratten and a couple of others to breathe some life and hope into the list and more importantly, belief into the players. That is what stands out the most in the team this year, which is great to see.
Your claims of the management being a joke are ignorant to the enormous challenges faced in 2018.

Firslty count the signficant experience and knowledge base that retired and walked out the door en masse the previous season. This event alone would have stretched any manager and is why the club realised it couldn't blame Alan alone for this issue and recognised it had to replace that support around Alan.

Then the perfect storm happened, a significant injury list grew that included significant and vitally important players from the best 22.

Then throw in some other niggles like the move and settling in back to Moorabbin and some of the staff changes.

There were a lot of balls up in the air so team selections were challenging. Blind Freddy could see that and thankfully Blind Freddy took a deep breath.

Free thinking comes from balanced and objective assessment of all the information, not just what you read in the Herald Sun.
My comments have come from balanced and objective assessment of all the information. The continued playing of Weller and a few others and the merry go round playing and dropping of some of the younger listed players in 2018 was strange to say the least and I stand by that. There was no continuity in team selection last year, irrespective of injuries, as you claim. This year there have also been a number of injuries to key players but team selection has not make me confused or bewildered like the weekly show in 2018. Mentoring and developing new talent has been quite substandard on the part of Richardson to date. In my opinion, his long-term signing was short-sighted and he isn't the best option as head coach. Thank goodness management saw the need to get Ratten and a few other experienced heads to help him this year.
I could spend time deconstructing your post sentence by sentence to further illustrate my previous point about your ignorance but I'm confident it is self explanatory.


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ace wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 11:44am
Shaggy wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 12:55am
The Fireman wrote: Sun 21 Apr 2019 10:42pm
twirlyhair wrote: Sun 21 Apr 2019 7:27pm
The Fireman wrote: Sun 21 Apr 2019 10:54am richo could leave now and I feel the side would carry on just nicely.
I just love how someone who has never met the guy, nor stepped inside the organisation to see what work they actually do, could be so arrogant to post such an imbecilic comment.
P.s, I think you are crap at your job. Just sayin.
can you be crap at being retired ?
A lot of people cause chaos on social media when they retire. They have nothing better to do.

Just sayin.
Some people create chaos before they retire and then create more chaos on social media when they retire to their harbourside mansion.
He has nothing better to do.
really?? My boat doesn't polish itself


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Cairnsman wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 11:46am
saintkid wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 11:36am
Cairnsman wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 10:59am
saintkid wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 9:47am Proud of the way the club is going so far this year and the team selections finally shows logic and continuity after 5 rounds but seriously, how do you explain some of the strange team selections that went on last year?
Richo's managing of the team in 2018 was a joke to say the least and his bland, boring persona equally as bad. I still have great reservations about him as our head coach but glad the club has brought in Ratten and a couple of others to breathe some life and hope into the list and more importantly, belief into the players. That is what stands out the most in the team this year, which is great to see.
Your claims of the management being a joke are ignorant to the enormous challenges faced in 2018.

Firslty count the signficant experience and knowledge base that retired and walked out the door en masse the previous season. This event alone would have stretched any manager and is why the club realised it couldn't blame Alan alone for this issue and recognised it had to replace that support around Alan.

Then the perfect storm happened, a significant injury list grew that included significant and vitally important players from the best 22.

Then throw in some other niggles like the move and settling in back to Moorabbin and some of the staff changes.

There were a lot of balls up in the air so team selections were challenging. Blind Freddy could see that and thankfully Blind Freddy took a deep breath.

Free thinking comes from balanced and objective assessment of all the information, not just what you read in the Herald Sun.
My comments have come from balanced and objective assessment of all the information. The continued playing of Weller and a few others and the merry go round playing and dropping of some of the younger listed players in 2018 was strange to say the least and I stand by that. There was no continuity in team selection last year, irrespective of injuries, as you claim. This year there have also been a number of injuries to key players but team selection has not make me confused or bewildered like the weekly show in 2018. Mentoring and developing new talent has been quite substandard on the part of Richardson to date. In my opinion, his long-term signing was short-sighted and he isn't the best option as head coach. Thank goodness management saw the need to get Ratten and a few other experienced heads to help him this year.
I could spend time deconstructing your post sentence by sentence to further illustrate my previous point about your ignorance but I'm confident it is self explanatory.
if you could you would...Just say you're wrong and move along


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IMHO Ratten is not the messiah. He's one change of many. Also, he happens to have arrived at the perfect time - bringing in the welcome Hawthorn IP (not his own, note) - at just the moment our team was ripe to receive it.

I thought it was very telling in Kent's postgame interview he talked about now looking ahead to the Adelaide game, seeing what they do well and figuring out how to use it against them. That's Clarkson philosophy right there. But our guys weren't ready last season to even begin to think that way. Like all teams mid-rebuild, we were still all about playing "our way". Now, we know what "our way" is, we can start thinking about how to deal with the specific opposition in front of us.

Re Richo - the complaint about him from Geary as I understand was that he'd been 'over-critical'. That sounds to me as if the team was *not* adhering to the gameplan. So that's a communication issue, not a strategy issue - and if it's fixed (which maybe it is, early days...), good. Leave him where he is. A lot of people wanted to get rid of Lonie too. But we're starting to like the little tyke.


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Re: Bassat, Ratts, Lade & Billy!

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The Fireman wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 11:50am
Cairnsman wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 11:46am
saintkid wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 11:36am
Cairnsman wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 10:59am
saintkid wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 9:47am Proud of the way the club is going so far this year and the team selections finally shows logic and continuity after 5 rounds but seriously, how do you explain some of the strange team selections that went on last year?
Richo's managing of the team in 2018 was a joke to say the least and his bland, boring persona equally as bad. I still have great reservations about him as our head coach but glad the club has brought in Ratten and a couple of others to breathe some life and hope into the list and more importantly, belief into the players. That is what stands out the most in the team this year, which is great to see.
Your claims of the management being a joke are ignorant to the enormous challenges faced in 2018.

Firslty count the signficant experience and knowledge base that retired and walked out the door en masse the previous season. This event alone would have stretched any manager and is why the club realised it couldn't blame Alan alone for this issue and recognised it had to replace that support around Alan.

Then the perfect storm happened, a significant injury list grew that included significant and vitally important players from the best 22.

Then throw in some other niggles like the move and settling in back to Moorabbin and some of the staff changes.

There were a lot of balls up in the air so team selections were challenging. Blind Freddy could see that and thankfully Blind Freddy took a deep breath.

Free thinking comes from balanced and objective assessment of all the information, not just what you read in the Herald Sun.
My comments have come from balanced and objective assessment of all the information. The continued playing of Weller and a few others and the merry go round playing and dropping of some of the younger listed players in 2018 was strange to say the least and I stand by that. There was no continuity in team selection last year, irrespective of injuries, as you claim. This year there have also been a number of injuries to key players but team selection has not make me confused or bewildered like the weekly show in 2018. Mentoring and developing new talent has been quite substandard on the part of Richardson to date. In my opinion, his long-term signing was short-sighted and he isn't the best option as head coach. Thank goodness management saw the need to get Ratten and a few other experienced heads to help him this year.
I could spend time deconstructing your post sentence by sentence to further illustrate my previous point about your ignorance but I'm confident it is self explanatory.
if you could you would...Just say you're wrong and move along
And further to The Fireman's post, keep your comments objective Cairnsman (as I did) and don't personalize them. :)


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saintkid wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 12:02pm
The Fireman wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 11:50am
Cairnsman wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 11:46am
saintkid wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 11:36am
Cairnsman wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 10:59am
saintkid wrote: Mon 22 Apr 2019 9:47am Proud of the way the club is going so far this year and the team selections finally shows logic and continuity after 5 rounds but seriously, how do you explain some of the strange team selections that went on last year?
Richo's managing of the team in 2018 was a joke to say the least and his bland, boring persona equally as bad. I still have great reservations about him as our head coach but glad the club has brought in Ratten and a couple of others to breathe some life and hope into the list and more importantly, belief into the players. That is what stands out the most in the team this year, which is great to see.
Your claims of the management being a joke are ignorant to the enormous challenges faced in 2018.

Firslty count the signficant experience and knowledge base that retired and walked out the door en masse the previous season. This event alone would have stretched any manager and is why the club realised it couldn't blame Alan alone for this issue and recognised it had to replace that support around Alan.

Then the perfect storm happened, a significant injury list grew that included significant and vitally important players from the best 22.

Then throw in some other niggles like the move and settling in back to Moorabbin and some of the staff changes.

There were a lot of balls up in the air so team selections were challenging. Blind Freddy could see that and thankfully Blind Freddy took a deep breath.

Free thinking comes from balanced and objective assessment of all the information, not just what you read in the Herald Sun.
My comments have come from balanced and objective assessment of all the information. The continued playing of Weller and a few others and the merry go round playing and dropping of some of the younger listed players in 2018 was strange to say the least and I stand by that. There was no continuity in team selection last year, irrespective of injuries, as you claim. This year there have also been a number of injuries to key players but team selection has not make me confused or bewildered like the weekly show in 2018. Mentoring and developing new talent has been quite substandard on the part of Richardson to date. In my opinion, his long-term signing was short-sighted and he isn't the best option as head coach. Thank goodness management saw the need to get Ratten and a few other experienced heads to help him this year.
I could spend time deconstructing your post sentence by sentence to further illustrate my previous point about your ignorance but I'm confident it is self explanatory.
if you could you would...Just say you're wrong and move along
And further to The Fireman's post, keep your comments objective Cairnsman (as I did) and don't personalize them. :)
He’s just playing to form, has no counter argument so turns to insults.


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