Well, that strategy won’t work with today’s list. So, Ratten it is
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Did you watch the game? I would’ve thought the subtle changes were fairly obvious? Newnes defensive forward, Acres & Sinclair attended extra centre bounces, McKenzie dropped & an emphasis made on ball retention & controlling the tempo especially in the back half. Quick play through the corridor when opportunity is there & a will to take the ball inside 50 with greater intent. Our backs retaining their shape & not getting sucked up the ground. At lease one of our forwards staying deep inside 50.freely wrote: ↑Mon 22 Jul 2019 10:05pmOK, don't acknowledge it. Just keep on doing it if it makes you happy.Myron Gaines wrote: ↑Mon 22 Jul 2019 9:11pmDo you think he’s going to come out & tell the rest of the football world about his planning & execution?freely wrote: ↑Mon 22 Jul 2019 8:12pm By his own account, Ratten didn't change anything except the forwards coach, just encouraged the players to play with confidence. So if you're still shitting on Richo, please acknowledge that you're doing it (as before) just for the sake of doing it, not because the club somehow needs your "honest assessment".
Basically saying anything else is basically stating what he thinks was wrong with ARsMyron Gaines wrote: ↑Mon 22 Jul 2019 9:11pmDo you think he’s going to come out & tell the rest of the football world about his planning & execution?freely wrote: ↑Mon 22 Jul 2019 8:12pm By his own account, Ratten didn't change anything except the forwards coach, just encouraged the players to play with confidence. So if you're still shitting on Richo, please acknowledge that you're doing it (as before) just for the sake of doing it, not because the club somehow needs your "honest assessment".
The win against the Dogs had far less to do with game plan than it had of being released. Have another look at the vision in the rooms after the game, do you think those blokes were so elated because of a new plan? or because they were able to play with freedom?freely wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 1:44amNo - I'm not talking about Richo's win-loss and I've got no argument with Richo getting the heave-ho. I'm just not a fan of supporters taking the opportunity to have one last pot at him, basically pretending that us beating the bulldogs - using a gameplan pretty much unchanged from the one he was using with the notable difference that during this game we kicked straight - proves that he was useless! It doesn't prove anything. Not that Ratts is a genius and our saviour either.Scollop wrote: ↑Mon 22 Jul 2019 11:43pm freely
Are you talking about honesty in relation to acknowledging Richo's win loss record? Your opinion versus other people's opinions is not important in the scheme of things. Seperate opinion from facts.
There is a very good reason that there aren't too many coaches lasting as long as Richo. You have to be able to take the emotion out of it and just compare how the team performs over the next five weeks. I think you are confusing your opinion versus the fact that Richo has been unsuccessful in improving the team over a very long extended period.
You can keep ignoring the honest truth like the fact that we have been unable to score over 100 points for so long. People are not interested in shitting on anyone. They care for this football club and they are trying to objectively assess the strengths of our interim coach.
The footy department and CEO have been in denial since July 2017. You can keep ignoring the fact that the team was crying out for leadership and a head coach who 'honestly' believed in our players. All clubs have injuries. Too many negative messages were heard throughout 2018 and I believe we had stagnated and young players were being held back in their development. I am confident that Ratten will make this team grow and improve significantly over the next few years
A sounder method of selection than what Lethlean had planned.darylcowie wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 10:50am If omens mean anything Ratten will do well if he gets the coaching gig at The Saints.
In Chinese Astrology 2020 is the Year of The Rat!
The Suns should have beaten us in R1. They were all over us in the last 1/4.
If that is directed to me as the OP then I'll respond with this: -freely wrote: ↑Mon 22 Jul 2019 8:12pm By his own account, Ratten didn't change anything except the forwards coach, just encouraged the players to play with confidence. So if you're still shitting on Richo, please acknowledge that you're doing it (as before) just for the sake of doing it, not because the club somehow needs your "honest assessment".
I agree, I take no enjoyment out of removing Richo in a personal nature
Myron Gaines wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 8:27am
Did you watch the game? I would’ve thought the subtle changes were fairly obvious? Newnes defensive forward, Acres & Sinclair attended extra centre bounces, McKenzie dropped & an emphasis made on ball retention & controlling the tempo especially in the back half. Quick play through the corridor when opportunity is there & a will to take the ball inside 50 with greater intent. Our backs retaining their shape & not getting sucked up the ground. At lease one of our forwards staying deep inside 50.
I wouldn’t pay much if any attention to what coaches & players say regarding game plan & structure. All you will get is the cliches such as “emphasis on contested footy, tackling, confidence, hardness, kicked straight, etc, etc”. They are not about to give away specifics on their game plan.
Should be a premiership.darylcowie wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 10:50am If omens mean anything Ratten will do well if he gets the coaching gig at The Saints.
In Chinese Astrology 2020 is the Year of The Rat!
To freely:Saintmatt wrote: ↑Mon 22 Jul 2019 11:05am
One of the things that I think has happened over the past 18-24 months with Richo is that we've become so insular. So conservative. If you could sum up our 'style' during that period it would be - don't play to win; play not to lose. All that mentality does is help you to not lose too heavily. Rarely however, does it allow you to win.
As a result - Richo's demeanor had become increasingly dour and devoid of any positive personality trait. Many times when listening/watching him in the media I wondered what he was doing in the senior coaching job because he definitely did not look like he was enjoying himself. In the context of the quote - it became apparent that Richo (and our players) weren't putting themselves "out there". And now we have Ratten.
If Ratts was coaching us from around the time North got rid of their coach, I reckon we'd be playing finals. Not necessarily winning, but who knows?Scollop wrote: ↑Tue 23 Jul 2019 4:31pmTo freely:Saintmatt wrote: ↑Mon 22 Jul 2019 11:05am
One of the things that I think has happened over the past 18-24 months with Richo is that we've become so insular. So conservative. If you could sum up our 'style' during that period it would be - don't play to win; play not to lose. All that mentality does is help you to not lose too heavily. Rarely however, does it allow you to win.
As a result - Richo's demeanor had become increasingly dour and devoid of any positive personality trait. Many times when listening/watching him in the media I wondered what he was doing in the senior coaching job because he definitely did not look like he was enjoying himself. In the context of the quote - it became apparent that Richo (and our players) weren't putting themselves "out there". And now we have Ratten.
I have quoted the op and in particular if you reread that first paragraph AND if you're honest with yourself you'd remember a few of our games from last year where Richo would have numbers behind the footy. Prior to the 6-6-6 rule Richo would be playing with 2-3 forwards and 7-8 players in the defensive half of the ground straight after a goal was scored. We'd be defending even though we were 4-5 goals behind on the scoreboard!!
If you agree with Richo getting the heave-ho, why don't you privately ask yourselves what the hell was the point of keeping him after what we saw up until the middle of last year.
"Richo's demeanor had become increasingly dour and devoid of any positive personality trait" I totally agree with this statement and I think that he should have been moved on after about round 9 or 10 last year. Every team has injuries and every team has setbacks.
1 game doesn't prove anything, but I reckon you shouldn't dismiss the possibility that Ratts may indeed be a genius. The fact that we scored over 100 points for the first time this year is a great sign