Should Geary follow example of Walker, Hurn and Davis and hand over Captaincy?

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Hickey has confirmed the error

Tom Hickey
Season Num MT Team K Avg H Avg
Average Handballs
D Avg M Avg HO Avg T Avg FF FA G Avg B SC Rat Avg
2019 16 20 West Coast 120 6 129 6.5 249 12.5 58 2.9 390 19.5 52 2.6 12 37 9 0.5 2 56 1347 67.4

Hickey played most minutes in the ruck and averaged above for 2019 - still a very average ruckman.

[CQ SAINT]

You’d be surprised to know how much Jarryn is rated in AFL circles, particularly by those who play against him and especially his opponents. Eddie Betts rates him as one of his toughest opponents!

Skill is not just about kicking the ball... that’s one skill amongst many others, that mustn’t be well understood.

There are at least 10 defensive skills, many of which Geary is elite
Marking, Geary is outstanding for his size
Ground balls, again Geary is accomplished
Games sense skills, Understands role
Physical skills, aerobic machine
Mental skills, inc courage, elite
Leadership skills, in spades

There is much more to being a good footballer, than being a nice kick, otherwise Brandon White and Brodie Murdoch would be guns, they are not!

So his ‘skill level’ overall is pretty good, which makes sense, he’s finished top 5 in the TBA award heaps of times!

You can add all the adjectives you like. The fact is Geary is an average footballer who should NEVER HAVE BEEN MADE CAPTAIN.

Not many average footballers play 150 games.

By the way, how many times have you been banned already from this site?

Your “look at me” sig suggests at least 5 times

Jack Newnes reckons Geary is a legend.

So he should. If Newnes had a B&F record of 5th -2018, 3rd-2017, 2nd-2016 and 5th-2015 he would not have been delisted.

Yeah. Club legend for sure.

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You’d be surprised to know how much Jarryn is rated in AFL circles, particularly by those who play against him and especially his opponents. Eddie Betts rates him as one of his toughest opponents!

Skill is not just about kicking the ball... that’s one skill amongst many others, that mustn’t be well understood.

There are at least 10 defensive skills, many of which Geary is elite
Marking, Geary is outstanding for his size
Ground balls, again Geary is accomplished
Games sense skills, Understands role
Physical skills, aerobic machine
Mental skills, inc courage, elite
Leadership skills, in spades

There is much more to being a good footballer, than being a nice kick, otherwise Brandon White and Brodie Murdoch would be guns, they are not!

So his ‘skill level’ overall is pretty good, which makes sense, he’s finished top 5 in the TBA award heaps of times!

You can add all the adjectives you like. The fact is Geary is an average footballer who should NEVER HAVE BEEN MADE CAPTAIN.

Not many average footballers play 150 games.

By the way, how many times have you been banned already from this site?

Your “look at me” sig suggests at least 5 times

Jack Newnes reckons Geary is a legend.

So he should. If Newnes had a B&F record of 5th -2018, 3rd-2017, 2nd-2016 and 5th-2015 he would not have been delisted.

Newnes alongside Hugh Goddard will be a force for Carlton.

[Gershwin]

Geary will be reappointed captain for 2020. Respected and inspirational to the playing list.

[Sanctorum]

The Dogs have just appointed Marcus Bontempelli as captain for 2020, replacing the highly respected Easton Wood who is 2 years younger than Geary.

I imagine that handing he captaincy over to Seb Ross, who has acted in Geary's absence in 2019, follows naturally and will signal to both the players and supporters that the 2020 St Kilda team has been totally transformed and aim to play finals.

[saynta]

Geary will be reappointed captain for 2020. Respected and inspirational to the playing list.

Yeah.but not if the club thinks he will struggle to hold his place in the team.

[Gershwin]

Geary will be reappointed captain for 2020. Respected and inspirational to the playing list.

Yeah.but not if the club thinks he will struggle to hold his place in the team.

When we need to shut-down a small forward there is no better defender in the competition than him. His disposal can be a bit iffy but still earns a spot in my team.

[B.M]

If he’s finishing top 5 in b&f awards as a small defender

I think he’s pretty safe

[The Barometer]

If he’s finishing top 5 in b&f awards as a small defender

I think he’s pretty safe

History. Top 5 in a s*** side. Does not equal future. Do you want Geary streaming out of defence and turning it over or Coffield nailing the tougher disposal opening up the game?
Geary has been a great soldier but it’s time to move on.

[B.M]

Were we s*** every year of Geary’s career?

I thought we were ok in 2016/2017? Not a great team, but far from s***?!

And he was one of our top 5 players in those seasons.

His effort vs Melbourne when he got injured last year was more inspirational than any goal you’ll see. Ridiculous courage!!

[CQ SAINT]

His effort lacked smarts. Courageous? Maybe. But a driving tackle with his arms around Harmes might have been smarter. It actually looked a bit awkward and desperate rather than inspirational. Harmes bounced off and got a handpass out. He should have been eating dirt.

[B.M]

It was highlighted by Judd on FC

Jarryn did what he has always done, put his body on the line!

He gives 100% to every contest, and works harder than any player on the list.

Combine Hunter Clark and Jarryn Geary... you get a superstar.

Jarryn is not a star
He’s just a bloody good player and even better leader

[CQ SAINT]

It was highlighted by Judd on FC

Jarryn did what he has always done, put his body on the line!

He gives 100% to every contest, and works harder than any player on the list.

Combine Hunter Clark and Jarryn Geary... you get a superstar.

Jarryn is not a star
He’s just a bloody good player and even better leader

I won't argue with that.

[Sanctorum]

It was highlighted by Judd on FC

Jarryn did what he has always done, put his body on the line!

He gives 100% to every contest, and works harder than any player on the list.

Combine Hunter Clark and Jarryn Geary... you get a superstar.

Jarryn is not a star
He’s just a bloody good player and even better leader

That may be so, but the team has any number of "bloody good players". I don't know if that necessarily indicates that Geary deserves to remain captain. Much will depend on how he recovers from 2 serious leg injuries last season - if he stays on as captain of the team then he is automatic selection every week irrespective of form or his ability to play at the level that he had before being injured.

I would rather see the club enact generational change by appointing a new captain which means Geary is going to be judged solely on his form - if he warrants regular selection that is entirely in his own hands.

[skeptic]

I always thought the concerns regarding his disposal were a bit over the top myself.

Not eye of the needle by any mean but hardly the turnover merchant he is often made out to be

[CQ SAINT]

I always thought the concerns regarding his disposal were a bit over the top myself.

Not eye of the needle by any mean but hardly the turnover merchant he is often made out to be

His advanced ability to win or intercept the ball is sadly let down by his inability to deliver it precisely up the field.
It's not horrible but his clangers are easier to remember than his 'eye of the needle passes'. He is a great mark, he is courageous, he attacks the contest with ferocity, he is great at 1%ers but he is just an average kick.

[B.M]

There are a lots of average kicks in the AFL

It’s one skill

[CQ SAINT]

There are a lots of average kicks in the AFL

It’s one skill

Unfortunately, it is the one he lacks and the primary reason why guys like Houli, who has all.the other skills too, creates scoring opportunities when he rebounds.and his mids and forwards play with much more confidence because of that.

Defend it all you like. But Geary rebounding is going to have to change before we can improve.

Let him shut down small forwards and tag mids. He might even win a TBA like Baker did if he does.

[CQ SAINT]

By the way, if he can't focus on and do both of those jobs he might have to make way for a younger guy who can or a running defender with a better kick.

[CQ SAINT]

And finally, delaying and avoiding the zone defence of the opposition when you are rebouding by using dinky little kicks side ways and backwards or stringing 3 sideways handball doing the same, might make your effective disposal count look better but it really just delays the same result and puts 3 players out of position.

[B.M]

Geary is a shut down defender

He takes the best small forward every game he plays

Has done since 2013

Rarely lowers his colours, which is why he does so well in the TBA

[CQ SAINT]

Geary is a shut down defender

He takes the best small forward every game he plays

Has done since 2013

Rarely lowers his colours, which is why he does so well in the TBA

Lol. Looking at his stats, he does the least against Adelaide for one good reason. He was busy shutting down Betts. Since 2016 his possession count has produced his 10 best games that are well above his average disposal count. His game had a running back element added and he spent a lot more time in space intercepting. He has the closing speed and defensive skills to still beat the best small forward. But, while recording big numbers off half back, no body ever chose to play a defensive forward on him for a reason.