Statement from Robbie Muir
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Statement from Robbie Muir
https://www.saints.com.au/news/801193?f ... xYtEU6B-ik
It feels like the meaningful reconciliation has begun. Makes me feel good about the world and in particular, our club and its supporters.
It feels like the meaningful reconciliation has begun. Makes me feel good about the world and in particular, our club and its supporters.
Go you red, black & white warriors
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Re: Statement from Robbie Muir
It's been a fantastic response but I think all credit should go to the ABC journalist Russel Jackson. Clearly there was a lot of work go into that piece and was scheduled for publication on Indigenous Round for maximum impact.
Good Journalism got the ball rolling.
Good Journalism got the ball rolling.
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Re: Statement from Robbie Muir
penned well
that was a solid read
he knows well
who comes first
good onya robbie muir
... all the best to you ‘n yours
.deadly.
***
well ,
that was a wind
the wind of Change
just swept across the land
how lucky is this Country
there’s the circuit breaker
if we tend it
with genuineness
nice work again
to everyone involved
good magic
that was a solid read
he knows well
who comes first
good onya robbie muir
... all the best to you ‘n yours
.deadly.
***
well ,
that was a wind
the wind of Change
just swept across the land
how lucky is this Country
there’s the circuit breaker
if we tend it
with genuineness
nice work again
to everyone involved
good magic
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
.tipara waranta kani nina-tu.
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Re: Statement from Robbie Muir
I'll be honest, I've not always been Muir's greatest fan, we have had a couple of run ins & also shared a couple of beers but I'm very appreciative of a further understanding of the man, his life, his pain, his demons and I wish him nothing but a peaceful remainder of his life.
I also wish that no player in the future has to contend with the absolute bile Robbie and others have endured because of their skin colour and their sublime abilities on the field.
I also wish that no player in the future has to contend with the absolute bile Robbie and others have endured because of their skin colour and their sublime abilities on the field.
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Re: Statement from Robbie Muir
Never again should we stand by and do nothing whilst racial abuse forces any indigenous footballer out of the game. Never again should be our motto. It will be mine.
I can't stand the ABC but this was a truly brilliant and timely article.
How often can a journo claim to have truly changed someones life.
When others talk about their favorite saints players from the past I sometimes brought forward Robbie Muir's name. He was one of my favorites. Shameful I never thought to ask how he was travelling.
I can't stand the ABC but this was a truly brilliant and timely article.
How often can a journo claim to have truly changed someones life.
When others talk about their favorite saints players from the past I sometimes brought forward Robbie Muir's name. He was one of my favorites. Shameful I never thought to ask how he was travelling.
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Re: Statement from Robbie Muir
I am incredibly proud of the recent actions to this very difficult matter
Robert - for agreeing to sharing the horrific story of his life
StKilda FC for the public apology & the offer of support
StKilda fans for amazing support for the gofundme page
However, just like night follows day, the next step in this public situation will be that the right wing political opinion writers of the Murdoch press (Herald Sun) will turn the event into a left wing nonsence - & try make those who contributed feel bad about themselves.
Well i refuse to feel bad (when the propaganda begins)
The events of the last few days has shown the underlying supportive nature of the human spirit - to take action to endeavour to right a wrong
Robert - for agreeing to sharing the horrific story of his life
StKilda FC for the public apology & the offer of support
StKilda fans for amazing support for the gofundme page
However, just like night follows day, the next step in this public situation will be that the right wing political opinion writers of the Murdoch press (Herald Sun) will turn the event into a left wing nonsence - & try make those who contributed feel bad about themselves.
Well i refuse to feel bad (when the propaganda begins)
The events of the last few days has shown the underlying supportive nature of the human spirit - to take action to endeavour to right a wrong
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Re: Statement from Robbie Muir
It is a truly awful story about Robert. I hope he has some peace and comfort now. And re-integrates himself back into society and the club. It seems he is very lucky to have a partner that is part of the support process and has instigated the change process for the better.
People can criticise the club. But there is another side.
The club did help him many times. And he was difficult to help.
This is from a contact from inside the past players association.
I am only posting it to show that there is two sides. Take it as you want.
I texted this "Of course part of it is on Robbie - but gees he copped a bundle without basically any support (other than Neil Roberts)."
This was the reply:
"That’s the point
He got heaps of support
He kept coming back
And the club accommodated
Many many times
He was belting blokes
Stealing
Gambling
Abusing
Wracking up debts
Skipping rent
Stealing cars
I could go on
It’s sad
The shoulder op
He says costs $25k
The club found out it was $10k and offered that
It’s amazing how it’s twisted around
The four Times he went back to past players he started a fight 3 times
And stole grog
And jumpers to sell
It’s sad"
People can criticise the club. But there is another side.
The club did help him many times. And he was difficult to help.
This is from a contact from inside the past players association.
I am only posting it to show that there is two sides. Take it as you want.
I texted this "Of course part of it is on Robbie - but gees he copped a bundle without basically any support (other than Neil Roberts)."
This was the reply:
"That’s the point
He got heaps of support
He kept coming back
And the club accommodated
Many many times
He was belting blokes
Stealing
Gambling
Abusing
Wracking up debts
Skipping rent
Stealing cars
I could go on
It’s sad
The shoulder op
He says costs $25k
The club found out it was $10k and offered that
It’s amazing how it’s twisted around
The four Times he went back to past players he started a fight 3 times
And stole grog
And jumpers to sell
It’s sad"
Nothing better than a good Dad Joke.
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Re: Statement from Robbie Muir
This is from a contact from inside the past players association.
mmmmmmmm
i’m not doubting the veracity of those words presented
in any way
pinching sh1t that's not nailed down
has always been a desperate mans support system
the f***ed up blackfella from our crew was deadly at it
(as he was at most things)
the early whities ended up in this land
for pinching sh1t
though they were not quite as smart
(coz they kept getting caught)
then went on a pinching spree out here
on behalf if some king kent from across the ocean
thats why you give
so the desperate has no need to sell out his
moral integrity
to survive
but and anyways
‘we’ have a current member of the past players/officials
association i’d like to put that in front of
i’ll report back
when i hear ‘their’ version
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
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Re: Statement from Robbie Muir
If that all be true, then perhaps all the more reason to think and hope that the outpouring of public support for Robbie in the last few days will prove to be a truly cathartic moment for Robbie , for his fellow past players and for us. I have never walked an inch, let alone a mile, in his shoes , so could not begin to understand .minneapolis wrote: ↑Wed 26 Aug 2020 5:48am It is a truly awful story about Robert. I hope he has some peace and comfort now. And re-integrates himself back into society and the club. It seems he is very lucky to have a partner that is part of the support process and has instigated the change process for the better.
People can criticise the club. But there is another side.
The club did help him many times. And he was difficult to help.
This is from a contact from inside the past players association.
I am only posting it to show that there is two sides. Take it as you want.
I texted this "Of course part of it is on Robbie - but gees he copped a bundle without basically any support (other than Neil Roberts)."
This was the reply:
"That’s the point
He got heaps of support
He kept coming back
And the club accommodated
Many many times
He was belting blokes
Stealing
Gambling
Abusing
Wracking up debts
Skipping rent
Stealing cars
I could go on
It’s sad
The shoulder op
He says costs $25k
The club found out it was $10k and offered that
It’s amazing how it’s twisted around
The four Times he went back to past players he started a fight 3 times
And stole grog
And jumpers to sell
It’s sad"
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Re: Statement from Robbie Muir
mmmmmm
yes , was his first word ,
whilst not privy to players n coaches affairs
the feelings expressed above
are common
in hindsight
more ‘could’ of been done
in reality
the timing is now
not then
***
out with ... she’ll be right mate
in with ... doin ok mate ?
still , good magic.
yes , was his first word ,
whilst not privy to players n coaches affairs
the feelings expressed above
are common
in hindsight
more ‘could’ of been done
in reality
the timing is now
not then
***
out with ... she’ll be right mate
in with ... doin ok mate ?
still , good magic.
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
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Re: Statement from Robbie Muir
He copped a lot (too much) and didn't handle it very well. His partner is life-converting.
Your are correct. That is the crux of the matter. The timing is now.
We all added a few bob to the go-fund-me page and that will help a lot with his circumstances.
There will be reconciliation on both sides and he will have a club environment as another family place.
Super well done for him to speak up and the journo to write an excellent piece. One soul hopefully saved.
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Re: Statement from Robbie Muir
The SANFL made an official statement with an apology to Robert, but just how much of some of these statements have credibility - here is one example of inconsistency.
ON THE SAME DAY AS THE MEDIA RELEASE
SANFL STATEMENTMEDIA RELEASE wrote: SANFL Statement: Robert Muir August 24. 2020
SANFL, together with the Woodville-West Torrens Football Club. wishes to apologise to former SANFL player Robert Muir for the appalling racism he experienced whilst playing for Woodville FC.
His story highlights the pain and suffering he endured from racial taunts and disrespectful actions of supporters at the match between Woodville and West Torrens In 1905.
Unfortunately, we acknowledge this would not be an Isolated incidence of racism in our game from the past which must be addressed. We are sincerely sorry to all those SANFL players who have endured racial vilification.
SANFL will be reaching out to Robert to express our apologies personally. should he be willing for us to do so.
Today. SANFL-through Its vilification and discrimination policy framework - has zero tolerance for offensive and racist behaviour towards players which Is at complete odds with the values and spirit of our game.
ON THE SAME DAY AS THE MEDIA RELEASE
NITV REPORTSBS/NITV MEDIA REPORT wrote: At a tribunal hearing on Monday night, the Southern Football League (SFL] only gave Flagstaff Hill FC a “formal reprimand”, after the club failed to stop its supporters from yelling racial abuse at Indigenous players from Port Noarlunga FC for an entire game.
After a game between the two teams earlier this month, Indigenous players from Port Noarlunga FC put in a formal complaint to the league after being called "black c**ts and stinky” for the entire game by a group of “10 or more” Flagstaff Hill supporters.
Speaking to NITV News on Tuesday, Indigenous player, Connor Sampson said he and his teammates left the tribunal feeling “angry” and “speechless” by the league’s decision.
“This has left us brothers feeling sick to the stomach and stuck with this anger for the rest of our lives because it took guts for us to come out and point this out,” said Mr Sampson.
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Re: Statement from Robbie Muir
I’ve highlighted one of your statements. Most of the teens and adults that turn to excessive drinking and drug abuse, usually have a pretty good reason for wanting to escape their reality. Do you think perhaps he had no excuse for getting angry and losing his temper in his playing days? Perhaps he should have complained to the tribunal where they punish opposition players and punish clubs for the behaviour of their supporters. Or should he have been a good xxxxxx and just kept his mouth shut and kept his hands to himself?minneapolis wrote: ↑Thu 27 Aug 2020 1:25amHe copped a lot (too much) and didn't handle it very well. His partner is life-converting.
Your are correct. That is the crux of the matter. The timing is now.
We all added a few bob to the go-fund-me page and that will help a lot with his circumstances.
There will be reconciliation on both sides and he will have a club environment as another family place.
Super well done for him to speak up and the journo to write an excellent piece. One soul hopefully saved.
READ THIS AGAIN
After a game between the two teams earlier this month, Indigenous players from Port Noarlunga FC put in a formal complaint to the league after being called "black c**ts and stinky” for the entire game by a group of “10 or more” Flagstaff Hill supporters.
Speaking to NITV News on Tuesday, Indigenous player, Connor Sampson said he and his teammates left the tribunal feeling “angry” and “speechless” by the league’s decision.
“This has left us brothers feeling sick to the stomach and stuck with this anger for the rest of our lives because it took guts for us to come out and point this out,” said Mr Sampson.
I’d say Muir handled in a way that made every single person who abused him think long and hard about ever doing it again. He took care of it personally because he knew that the people in control had basically the same attitude as the perpetrators ....at that time...well actually....if you read the paragraph above, it seems that the powers that be in SA need a bit of an overhaul.
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Re: Statement from Robbie Muir
yea
saw that
saw that
.name the ways , thought manipulates the State of Presence away.
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