Votes v Hawks

[Sanctorum]

5. Rowan Marshall - verging on elite status, likely make the expanded AA squad this year if not the team..
4. Jack Steele - a real chance for Brownlow given he is playing in a team of few real stars
3. Zak Jones - love his aggression, a real "attack dog", gives his all
2. Ben Long - never takes a backward step, can play all over the ground, x-factor
1. Nick Coffield - has become a really dependable defender, follows the play well, intercepts regularly and disposes efficiently

[Russman]

5. Marshall
4. Hill
3. Long
2. Steele
1. Coffield

[bigcarl]

5. Rowan Marshall - verging on elite status, likely make the expanded AA squad this year if not the team..

He is some player, isn’t he.

Such confidence and swagger. I love it. He’s a modern-day Keith Miller.

So where do you play him?

It seems that he is good enough to be a first-rate power forward, ruckman or an extra tall ruck rover.

You could make a decent argument for any of the above. I think he could hold down CHB if you needed him to.

If only we could clone him.

[Ghost Like]

herald sun votes

BEST

St Kilda: Hill, Coffield Jones, Steele, Ross, Marshall,

Saints.com

BEST

St Kilda: Marshall, Ryder, Ross, Hill, Sinclair, Steele, Coffield, Lonie

But could Seb get a vote on here.....

I'd like to know why neither of those could include Long. Especially Saints.com, apparently Long not in the best 8 players???

[saynta]

herald sun votes

BEST

St Kilda: Hill, Coffield Jones, Steele, Ross, Marshall,

Saints.com

BEST

St Kilda: Marshall, Ryder, Ross, Hill, Sinclair, Steele, Coffield, Lonie

But could Seb get a vote on here.....

I'd like to know why neither of those could include Long. Especially Saints.com, apparently Long not in the best 8 players???

Long definitely in the top ten players.

[BadRossco]

Must have got mixed up between Long and Lonie the latter certainly was not in the top ten

[saynta]

Must have got mixed up between Long and Lonie the latter certainly was not in the top ten

No but we would not have won without his score.

[MCG-Unit]

herald sun votes

BEST

St Kilda: Hill, Coffield Jones, Steele, Ross, Marshall,

Saints.com

BEST

St Kilda: Marshall, Ryder, Ross, Hill, Sinclair, Steele, Coffield, Lonie

But could Seb get a vote on here.....

Ross included in my votes now 8 clearances, 5 clangers

[saynta]

herald sun votes

BEST

St Kilda: Hill, Coffield Jones, Steele, Ross, Marshall,

Saints.com

BEST

St Kilda: Marshall, Ryder, Ross, Hill, Sinclair, Steele, Coffield, Lonie

But could Seb get a vote on here.....

Ross included in my votes now 8 clearances, 5 clangers

[Bernard Shakey]

Marshall
Coff
Jones
Long
Steele

[saynta]

herald sun votes

BEST

St Kilda: Hill, Coffield Jones, Steele, Ross, Marshall,

Saints.com

BEST

St Kilda: Marshall, Ryder, Ross, Hill, Sinclair, Steele, Coffield, Lonie

But could Seb get a vote on here.....

Ross included in my votes now 8 clearances, 5 clangers

It is obvious from the coaches votes that you and I are in the knowledgable minority .

[Scollop]

Obviously watching a game of footy is very different from a fan and supporter viewpoint versus coaches.

Coaches love stats. They have to look at stats throughout a match. They have no choice. Therefore, I reckon a majority of coaches look at the final stat sheet prior to giving coaches association votes.

It isn’t obvious....but I also reckon that many fans and supporters look at stats prior to giving votes

I think you either have a habit of not looking at stats and judging the game on what you see, or you are a person who needs the stats to make your final decision.

Personally, I prefer to rate players on their impact. I loved it when DownAtTheJunction was giving his impact scores each match. It was a very good numerical style of method of rating a player without just counting pure disposals.

If you do look at final stats before voting, it’s difficult to fight your eyes and you think back to the match and remember seeing a player with footy in hand on several occasions. Your brain is telling you that if he was in possession several times, no wonder he had so many disposals. Problem is that you probably don’t remember the quality of all those possessions.

In summary, it makes sense that people and some coaches may be influenced by stats when giving votes. Our brain is telling us not to ignore a player if they have the most disposals, regardless of their impact.

[saynta]

Obviously watching a game of footy is very different from a fan and supporter viewpoint versus coaches.

Coaches love stats. They have to look at stats throughout a match. They have no choice. Therefore, I reckon a majority of coaches look at the final stat sheet prior to giving coaches association votes.

It isn’t obvious....but I also reckon that many fans and supporters look at stats prior to giving votes

I think you either have a habit of not looking at stats and judging the game on what you see, or you are a person who needs the stats to make your final decision.

Personally, I prefer to rate players on their impact. I loved it when DownAtTheJunction was giving his impact scores each match. It was a very good numerical style of method of rating a player without just counting pure disposals.

If you do look at final stats before voting, it’s difficult to fight your eyes and you think back to the match and remember seeing a player with footy in hand on several occasions. Your brain is telling you that if he was in possession several times, no wonder he had so many disposals. Problem is that you probably don’t remember the quality of all those possessions.

In summary, it makes sense that people and some coaches may be influenced by stats when giving votes. Our brain is telling us not to ignore a player if they have the most disposals, regardless of their impact.

What utter unadulterated rubbish. Do you just make up this s*** to try and justify your hatred of Ross. f****** pathetic.

[Sainter_Dad]

103 Marshall
65 Long
40.5 Steele
39 Hill
38 Coffield
29 Jones
19 Ryder
11 Ross
8.5 Sinclair
4 Howard
3 Kent

Therefore:
5 Marshall
4 Long
3 Steele
2 Hill
1 Coffield

[Scollop]

Obviously watching a game of footy is very different from a fan and supporter viewpoint versus coaches.

Coaches love stats. They have to look at stats throughout a match. They have no choice. Therefore, I reckon a majority of coaches look at the final stat sheet prior to giving coaches association votes.

It isn’t obvious....but I also reckon that many fans and supporters look at stats prior to giving votes

I think you either have a habit of not looking at stats and judging the game on what you see, or you are a person who needs the stats to make your final decision.

Personally, I prefer to rate players on their impact. I loved it when DownAtTheJunction was giving his impact scores each match. It was a very good numerical style of method of rating a player without just counting pure disposals.

If you do look at final stats before voting, it’s difficult to fight your eyes and you think back to the match and remember seeing a player with footy in hand on several occasions. Your brain is telling you that if he was in possession several times, no wonder he had so many disposals. Problem is that you probably don’t remember the quality of all those possessions.

In summary, it makes sense that people and some coaches may be influenced by stats when giving votes. Our brain is telling us not to ignore a player if they have the most disposals, regardless of their impact.

What utter unadulterated rubbish. Do you just make up this s*** to try and justify your hatred of Ross. f****** pathetic.

It’s a general post for discussion and just just my opinion. I’m not specifically referring to Seb. Did I mention Ross at all in my post?

I don’t hate Ross, so don’t make up stuff either

[saynta]

Obviously watching a game of footy is very different from a fan and supporter viewpoint versus coaches.

Coaches love stats. They have to look at stats throughout a match. They have no choice. Therefore, I reckon a majority of coaches look at the final stat sheet prior to giving coaches association votes.

It isn’t obvious....but I also reckon that many fans and supporters look at stats prior to giving votes

I think you either have a habit of not looking at stats and judging the game on what you see, or you are a person who needs the stats to make your final decision.

Personally, I prefer to rate players on their impact. I loved it when DownAtTheJunction was giving his impact scores each match. It was a very good numerical style of method of rating a player without just counting pure disposals.

If you do look at final stats before voting, it’s difficult to fight your eyes and you think back to the match and remember seeing a player with footy in hand on several occasions. Your brain is telling you that if he was in possession several times, no wonder he had so many disposals. Problem is that you probably don’t remember the quality of all those possessions.

In summary, it makes sense that people and some coaches may be influenced by stats when giving votes. Our brain is telling us not to ignore a player if they have the most disposals, regardless of their impact.

What utter unadulterated rubbish. Do you just make up this s*** to try and justify your hatred of Ross. f****** pathetic.

It’s a general post for discussion and just just my opinion. I’m not specifically referring to Seb. Did I mention Ross at all in my post?

I don’t hate Ross, so don’t make up stuff either

Stick by what I posted.

[Scollop]

Obviously watching a game of footy is very different from a fan and supporter viewpoint versus coaches.

Coaches love stats. They have to look at stats throughout a match. They have no choice. Therefore, I reckon a majority of coaches look at the final stat sheet prior to giving coaches association votes.

It isn’t obvious....but I also reckon that many fans and supporters look at stats prior to giving votes

I think you either have a habit of not looking at stats and judging the game on what you see, or you are a person who needs the stats to make your final decision.

Personally, I prefer to rate players on their impact. I loved it when DownAtTheJunction was giving his impact scores each match. It was a very good numerical style of method of rating a player without just counting pure disposals.

If you do look at final stats before voting, it’s difficult to fight your eyes and you think back to the match and remember seeing a player with footy in hand on several occasions. Your brain is telling you that if he was in possession several times, no wonder he had so many disposals. Problem is that you probably don’t remember the quality of all those possessions.

In summary, it makes sense that people and some coaches may be influenced by stats when giving votes. Our brain is telling us not to ignore a player if they have the most disposals, regardless of their impact.

What utter unadulterated rubbish. Do you just make up this s*** to try and justify your hatred of Ross. f****** pathetic.

It’s a general post for discussion and just just my opinion. I’m not specifically referring to Seb. Did I mention Ross at all in my post?

I don’t hate Ross, so don’t make up stuff either

Stick by what I posted.

That's good. I like a man who sticks by his guns. Ya have to have integrity, is what I say

Is Ross 197cm?

Naaaaaahhhhhh Just Joshin Ya

[saynta]

Obviously watching a game of footy is very different from a fan and supporter viewpoint versus coaches.

Coaches love stats. They have to look at stats throughout a match. They have no choice. Therefore, I reckon a majority of coaches look at the final stat sheet prior to giving coaches association votes.

It isn’t obvious....but I also reckon that many fans and supporters look at stats prior to giving votes

I think you either have a habit of not looking at stats and judging the game on what you see, or you are a person who needs the stats to make your final decision.

Personally, I prefer to rate players on their impact. I loved it when DownAtTheJunction was giving his impact scores each match. It was a very good numerical style of method of rating a player without just counting pure disposals.

If you do look at final stats before voting, it’s difficult to fight your eyes and you think back to the match and remember seeing a player with footy in hand on several occasions. Your brain is telling you that if he was in possession several times, no wonder he had so many disposals. Problem is that you probably don’t remember the quality of all those possessions.

In summary, it makes sense that people and some coaches may be influenced by stats when giving votes. Our brain is telling us not to ignore a player if they have the most disposals, regardless of their impact.

What utter unadulterated rubbish. Do you just make up this s*** to try and justify your hatred of Ross. f****** pathetic.

It’s a general post for discussion and just just my opinion. I’m not specifically referring to Seb. Did I mention Ross at all in my post?

I don’t hate Ross, so don’t make up stuff either

Stick by what I posted.

That's good. I like a man who sticks by his guns. Ya have to have integrity, is what I say

Is Ross 197cm?

Naaaaaahhhhhh Just Joshin Ya

That's what the guy said.

[MCG-Unit]

herald sun votes

BEST

St Kilda: Hill, Coffield Jones, Steele, Ross, Marshall,

Saints.com

BEST

St Kilda: Marshall, Ryder, Ross, Hill, Sinclair, Steele, Coffield, Lonie

But could Seb get a vote on here.....

Ross included in my votes now 8 clearances, 5 clangers

It is obvious from the coaches votes that you and I are in the knowledgable minority .

Honestly I have not seen the Coach's votes. I watch the game first, then I check out the Stats & Supercoach scores. Still good to know we are on the ball