The press conference

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

Post Reply
saintbob
SS Life Member
Posts: 3541
Joined: Wed 21 May 2008 8:51pm
Location: Tassie
Has thanked: 459 times
Been thanked: 294 times

The press conference

Post: # 1898355Post saintbob »

What an insipid performance from Ratten, he wanted to blame the length of the games, the reduction in rotations and list sizes and the rule changes.

How come Richmond, Brisbane, Port Adelaide, Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs have been able to adapt to all these things and still be at the top of the table, if all these changes have made the game so f****** hard.

How about coming out and saying our game plan is f***ed, we overrated our playing list and we’ve butchered yet another trade period by bringing in blokes that have been delisted by clubs with supposedly worse lists than ours!!!
Last edited by saintbob on Mon 26 Apr 2021 12:24am, edited 1 time in total.


User avatar
Devilhead
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8278
Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:56pm
Has thanked: 135 times
Been thanked: 1151 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898358Post Devilhead »

Any chance we can seduce Clarkson over?

It would be the ultimate challenge for him


The Devil makes work for idle hands!!!
B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 11492
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2501 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898359Post B.M »

Why?

Hawthorn are no good, and he coaches them?!


User avatar
Wayne42
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4911
Joined: Mon 24 Jun 2013 10:27pm
Has thanked: 619 times
Been thanked: 558 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898361Post Wayne42 »

B.M wrote: Mon 26 Apr 2021 12:24am Why?

Hawthorn are no good, and he coaches them?!
They won didn't they ?


The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
User avatar
Wayne42
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4911
Joined: Mon 24 Jun 2013 10:27pm
Has thanked: 619 times
Been thanked: 558 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898362Post Wayne42 »

saintbob wrote: Mon 26 Apr 2021 12:19am What an insipid performance from Ratten, he wanted to blame the length of the games, the reduction in rotations and list sizes and the rule changes.

How come Richmond, Brisbane, Port Adelaide, Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs have been able to adapt to all these things and still be at the top of the table, if all these changes have made the game so f****** hard.

How about coming out and saying our game plan is f***ed, we overrated our playing list and we’ve butchered yet another trade period by bringing in blokes that have been delisted by clubs with supposedly worse lists than ours!!!
Ratten lives in dreamworld, his press conferences are shite, he may even be starting to panic, has he lost the playing group ?


The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
Laurie
Club Player
Posts: 524
Joined: Tue 21 Feb 2012 1:59pm
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 108 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898366Post Laurie »

Dont blame the coach as we always seem to do at St.Kilda lets face it we have a bunch of overated players with heads as big as bording house puddings.
Not to mention our woeful recruiting.
Absolute shambles of a club.


User avatar
Wayne42
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4911
Joined: Mon 24 Jun 2013 10:27pm
Has thanked: 619 times
Been thanked: 558 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898369Post Wayne42 »

Laurie wrote: Mon 26 Apr 2021 12:32am Dont blame the coach as we always seem to do at St.Kilda lets face it we have a bunch of overated players with heads as big as bording house puddings.
Not to mention our woeful recruiting.
Absolute shambles of a club.
The coach could at least be realistic when he waffles to the press.


The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 11492
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2501 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898370Post B.M »

They beat Adelaide in Tas by 3 points, and really Adelaide sh*t the bed on that one

How have you seen the Hawks last few seasons??


B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 11492
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2501 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898371Post B.M »

The press conference was concerning

He needs to get a whole lot fkn harder!!!

Challenge the players and DON’T make excuses for mediocrity


User avatar
Waltzing St Kilda
SS Hall of Fame
Posts: 2115
Joined: Sun 14 Mar 2010 5:20am
Location: Melbourne
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 344 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898373Post Waltzing St Kilda »

Clarkson is a bona fide great coach.

Will more likely end up at Collingwood or Carlton though and who can blame him?


User avatar
Wayne42
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4911
Joined: Mon 24 Jun 2013 10:27pm
Has thanked: 619 times
Been thanked: 558 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898374Post Wayne42 »

B.M wrote: Mon 26 Apr 2021 12:35am They beat Adelaide in Tas by 3 points, and really Adelaide sh*t the bed on that one

How have you seen the Hawks last few seasons??
he is developing like we are, i bet he wins.


The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
User avatar
Devilhead
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 8278
Joined: Mon 08 Mar 2004 11:56pm
Has thanked: 135 times
Been thanked: 1151 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898377Post Devilhead »

When Ratten was asked about our comeback v Eagles and why we are having trouble replicating that effort ...... he paused and didn't answer immediately

I don't believe he knows why ...... eventually he replied about players needing to get a move on

But I don't believe he has any idea as to why the players are currently lacklustre.

He looks bereft of ideas and inspiration


The Devil makes work for idle hands!!!
B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 11492
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2501 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898380Post B.M »

Great teams make great coaches

Mitchell, Hodge, Lewis, Franklin, Gibson, Roughead, Rioli
Will go down as greats of the game

Then he had Gunston, Sheil, Birchall, Lake, Frawley, McEvoy, Hill, Smith

Yes is is a good coach, no doubt
But take away his champions and his depth - he struggles like anyone would

He would do much better at StK than Ratten - We are not much


User avatar
shanegrambeau
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5958
Joined: Thu 25 Jan 2018 2:15pm
Has thanked: 327 times
Been thanked: 710 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898382Post shanegrambeau »

Wonder what Grant Thomas would be thinking? Rich 0, not doubt enjoying another scotch!


You're quite brilliant Shane, yeah..terrific!
User avatar
bigred
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 11463
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 7:39am
Has thanked: 25 times
Been thanked: 609 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898383Post bigred »

The game plan is shyte.


"Now the ball is loose, it gives St. Kilda a rough chance. Black. Good handpass. Voss. Schwarze now, the defender, can run and from a long way".....
User avatar
Wayne42
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4911
Joined: Mon 24 Jun 2013 10:27pm
Has thanked: 619 times
Been thanked: 558 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898386Post Wayne42 »

Devilhead wrote: Mon 26 Apr 2021 12:53am When Ratten was asked about our comeback v Eagles and why we are having trouble replicating that effort ...... he paused and didn't answer immediately

I don't believe he knows why ...... eventually he replied about players needing to get a move on

But I don't believe he has any idea as to why the players are currently lacklustre.

He looks bereft of ideas and inspiration
Is he another good assistant coach thrust into the main job, has the modern game exceeded his knowledge base, is he just unsure why his messages don't get through.

Are the players annoyed with his selection policies. F*** knows.

Can someone at the club help him work it out, or can we employ a mentor.


The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 11492
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2501 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898389Post B.M »

I think the game plan worked last year until teams understood how to play against it.

Simple as holding your back 6


User avatar
Wayne42
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4911
Joined: Mon 24 Jun 2013 10:27pm
Has thanked: 619 times
Been thanked: 558 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898393Post Wayne42 »

Why can't the coaching staff adapt, surely we aren't the only team that gets worked out.

Too many excuses for incompetence.


The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
User avatar
SaintPav
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 18650
Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
Location: Alma Road
Has thanked: 1544 times
Been thanked: 1901 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898394Post SaintPav »

Sounds like we are very one dimensional and we have not adapted at all. This was also a problem towards the end of last season so hard to believe they haven't worked it out.

Aren't we supposed to have a few tactical geniuses St the club?


Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
User avatar
bigred
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 11463
Joined: Tue 09 Mar 2004 7:39am
Has thanked: 25 times
Been thanked: 609 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898398Post bigred »

The F50 setup is absolutely pathetic.
It is plain dumb.

FFS try something different.
They have to try something different.

This is just like Richo.


"Now the ball is loose, it gives St. Kilda a rough chance. Black. Good handpass. Voss. Schwarze now, the defender, can run and from a long way".....
User avatar
Wayne42
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4911
Joined: Mon 24 Jun 2013 10:27pm
Has thanked: 619 times
Been thanked: 558 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898399Post Wayne42 »

SaintPav wrote: Mon 26 Apr 2021 1:10am Sounds like we are very one dimensional and we have not adapted at all. This was also a problem towards the end of last season so hard to believe they haven't worked it out.

Aren't we supposed to have a few tactical geniuses St the club?
The tactical geniuses must have been moved to the fund raising department.


The Saints are under review, will it make any difference to the underachievers ?
MickThomas
Club Player
Posts: 631
Joined: Mon 21 Aug 2017 1:23am
Location: Doncaster, Victoria
Has thanked: 77 times
Been thanked: 33 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898406Post MickThomas »

Devilhead wrote: Mon 26 Apr 2021 12:53am When Ratten was asked about our comeback v Eagles and why we are having trouble replicating that effort ...... he paused and didn't answer immediately

I don't believe he knows why ...... eventually he replied about players needing to get a move on

But I don't believe he has any idea as to why the players are currently lacklustre.

He looks bereft of ideas and inspiration
Cuddles and the other coaches have done 2 post-match reviews since the WCE game.
I agree with you, I don't think he has a clue about how that happened and why we can't repeat it.

He, like all coaches, has 5-6 analysts on laptops collecting GPS data, pressure acts, one %, handball-to-kick ratio, how many minutes to fry a steak before turning it over, etc.
They get so consumed with numbers they forget what the bleeding game is all about.

One presser, he said 'our pressure was about 170' like WTF does that even mean?
Han Solo said his ship could do the Kessel run in 10 parsecs. Made about as much sense as that quote


2020 was an aberration, when we travelled twice to Adelaide and won both, beat Tigers early, beat our bogey Swans. 2021 we've returned to our old ways. Damn
Vortex
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6264
Joined: Fri 18 Sep 2020 6:51am
Has thanked: 833 times
Been thanked: 981 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898417Post Vortex »

Cuddles has to look up the word "accountability" in the dictionary. You can't have responsibility without accountability. Ratten and the players are given the responsibility each week to go out and play for the club. At present they aren't taking that responsibility seriously enough.

Watch the replay, Karl Amon and Hill running for the ball on the wing, Amon wins the contest and waltzes into his F50. Hill doesn't give chase and/or help clog up Ports F50 and be available to help win the ball back and run it out of defence. Hill is lightly jogging towards HF while Amon is deep in his own F50. A sackable offence for a bloke's bread N butter on 900k.

If Hill gets a game this week then I'm done until Ratts gets the sack.


Jacks Back
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 6531
Joined: Sat 11 Jun 2011 4:52pm
Location: Here
Has thanked: 1207 times
Been thanked: 447 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898421Post Jacks Back »

Maybe the players need a movie night.


As ex-president Peter Summers said:
“If we are going to be a contender, we may as well plan to win the bloody thing.”


St Kilda - At least we have a Crest!
st.byron
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10598
Joined: Tue 14 Jun 2005 7:04pm
Location: North
Has thanked: 1011 times
Been thanked: 1055 times

Re: The press conference

Post: # 1898446Post st.byron »

Laurie wrote: Mon 26 Apr 2021 12:32am Dont blame the coach as we always seem to do at St.Kilda lets face it we have a bunch of overated players with heads as big as bording house puddings.
Not to mention our woeful recruiting.
Absolute shambles of a club.
I enjoyed the “boarding house puddings” reference.


Post Reply