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Chris Riewoldt

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A good read seeing it's Jack Riwoldys 300th
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More great decisions

2006 was probably the beginning of the end for John Beveridge.

Armitage and Howard

Armo at #9
James Frawley #12
Jack Riewoldt #13

Howard at #27

Played 2 average games in 4 years


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Yep flabbergasted by what was said in that article about why they didn't recruit him. Shouldn't it be the best available?
Oh yeah we had plenty of good forwards...Yada Yada Yada.
Beveridge made a few blunders. Picked the obvious ones.🙄

St Kilda recruiter John Beveridge declined to comment, but sources at the club said Jack hadn't shown enough to be a top-10 pick.

"We had Nick and Kosi (Justin Koschitzke) up and running and the key positions were strong. The focus was the midfield," he said.

"Certainly he (Jack) was looked at. Some people thought he was a fraction slow. It is a rare bloke who can take the contested marks he can, but back then it didn't appear he had that life in his legs."


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I remember in 2006 the recruiters were gaga over the 6’5” athlete in Tasmanian Mitch Thorpe.

When asked about who the best prospect in his team Tasmanian U18 coach Hamish Olgivie was unequivocal

Jack Riewoldt

Arguable the best player from the 06 draft and we had every chance to select him.


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Post: # 1913765Post Teflon »

Which is why when people say you don’t need Ben King....we got Max and Membrey yada yada yada.....
Sometimes you just “do” and get the talent especially IF there is an inkling that talent would love to be at your club
Jack would’ve loved to play with Nick......can you imagine a roaming CHF beast in N Riewoldt with jumping Jack out of the goalsquare?????? Good luck stopping that...
Ben King lead up far and wide the other night .......looked very good too no reason why he and his brother can’t compliment each other and scare opposition sides for a decade .....
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I always got the impression Jack was a bit of an embarrassment to Nick back then. Don't know if that would have had an influence.


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can't play 10 forwards no matter how good they are

Also these forwards were draft before him

Thorpe
Gumbleton
Reid

Reid was ok the rest useless
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ausfatcat wrote: Wed 14 Jul 2021 12:50am can't play 10 forwards no matter how good they are
U can 2 good ones and plenty do and go all right...


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Teflon wrote: Wed 14 Jul 2021 12:51am
ausfatcat wrote: Wed 14 Jul 2021 12:50am can't play 10 forwards no matter how good they are
U can 2 good ones and plenty do and go all right...
We had Roo, Kosi and Gehrig, with Watts coming through.

Love the hindsight we look a lot less silly in that draft than three other forwards taken before him


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It was a case of people making mountains of molehills… See Aaron Naughton. And Naughton was playing defence with bad kicking stats.

In 2005 Riewoldt made his senior debut with Clarence at age 16, then went on to play with the club through its finals series including a losing grand final where he kicked four goals.[5] The following year he again played in a senior grand final with Clarence, this time a member of the club's victorious side.[6][7]

He later played and trained with the Tassie Mariners at TAC Cup level and represented his state at the 2006 AFL Under 18 Championships.[8] In three matches at the championships he kicked a total of eight goals and was named in his side's best players on two occasions.[9][10][11]

In 2006 he played eight matches for the Tasmanian Devils in the VFL. One particularly noteworthy game came against Bendigo, where he kicked four goals and took 13 marks.[12]

He attended high school at St Virgil's and Rosny College in Hobart.[3][13]

Prior to the draft, AFL Media's Matt Burgen labelled him a "goal-kicking forward who is extremely strong overhead."[12] He was however considered both short and slow for his position, with North Melbourne recruiting manager Neville Stibbard later remarking that he did not believe Riewoldt was "athletic or tall enough to play key position at either end (of the field)."[14] Richmond recruiting manager Francis Jackson later recalled Riewoldt's impressive football smarts and his ability to read the flight of the ball as key factors in his recruitment.[5]
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axcellence wrote: Wed 14 Jul 2021 6:47am It was a case of people making mountains of molehills… See Aaron Naughton. And Naughton was playing defence with bad kicking stats.

In 2005 Riewoldt made his senior debut with Clarence at age 16, then went on to play with the club through its finals series including a losing grand final where he kicked four goals.[5] The following year he again played in a senior grand final with Clarence, this time a member of the club's victorious side.[6][7]

He later played and trained with the Tassie Mariners at TAC Cup level and represented his state at the 2006 AFL Under 18 Championships.[8] In three matches at the championships he kicked a total of eight goals and was named in his side's best players on two occasions.[9][10][11]

In 2006 he played eight matches for the Tasmanian Devils in the VFL. One particularly noteworthy game came against Bendigo, where he kicked four goals and took 13 marks.[12]

He attended high school at St Virgil's and Rosny College in Hobart.[3][13]

Prior to the draft, AFL Media's Matt Burgen labelled him a "goal-kicking forward who is extremely strong overhead."[12] He was however considered both short and slow for his position, with North Melbourne recruiting manager Neville Stibbard later remarking that he did not believe Riewoldt was "athletic or tall enough to play key position at either end (of the field)."[14] Richmond recruiting manager Francis Jackson later recalled Riewoldt's impressive football smarts and his ability to read the flight of the ball as key factors in his recruitment.[5]
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Jack_Riewoldt
Yep, more a case of being risk averse to recruiting family lineage by then. Agree, it should always be best available when it comes to drafting.


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Picks 2, 3, 4 and 6 were all average players but apparently we were the only ones who got it wrong.


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Isn't it best player available. Makes sense doesn't it. If he comes into the club and displaces another player from his position you take it!


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No

A lot of teams got it wrong

Of which we were one

Jack did a work experience fortnight at StK, and he was Nicks cousin

And he, like Selwood was just a good footballer - there were better athletes
But what f*** does that matter

Just take the best players - is it that fkn hard?!

Hell, I would’ve recruited him just to get Nick to sign a contract extension.


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[quote=Teflon post_id=1913765 time=1626181103 user_id=175]
Which is why when people say you don’t need Ben King....we got Max and Membrey yada yada yada.....
Sometimes you just “do” and get the talent especially IF there is an inkling that talent would love to be at your club
Jack would’ve loved to play with Nick......can you imagine a roaming CHF beast in N Riewoldt with jumping Jack out of the goalsquare?????? Good luck stopping that...
Ben King lead up far and wide the other night .......looked very good too no reason why he and his brother can’t compliment each other and scare opposition sides for a decade .....
Learn from the past saints
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I totally agree get Ben if we can and they will make it work. Opposition sides will have to pick a different side to play us and that will weaken them before a ball is even bounced.


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Re: Chris Riewoldt

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B.M wrote: Wed 14 Jul 2021 7:21pm
Hell, I would’ve recruited him just to get Nick to sign a contract extension.
I think from memory Nick stayed on for a few years anyway.


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