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Re: Ross Lyon loves St Kilda

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Yorkeys wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 12:00pm
The G Train Legacy wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 11:36am
WellardSaint wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 10:44am
saynta wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 9:58am Be like getting back with your ex wife...never works

And...

Is everyone forgetting that this grub got fired from Freo for reasons other than football.
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There were allegations of misconduct towards a female staffer. More than one alleged instance.
A bloke in a position of power like him, with friends n suckholes on the board- when they behave badly, there's always a cover-up such as a payout etc
The misconduct allegations whether true or not, weren't hanging offences. You don't banish people; particularly highly competent ones, because they are flawed, as all humans are.
The abrasive elements of his personalty are also what makes him highly competent under pressure and a leader who men want to follow.
I wonder if Sonja Hood would agree with your sentiments at the moment.
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Re: Ross Lyon loves St Kilda

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Oh dear..
Here we go again..

Case closed.

Disgrace.

Congratulations.

Feel good about yourselves

And clean hearted.


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footynut wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 1:36pm He would positive and negatives to the club. Just like any other coach. In the positive side of the ledger is his demand for excellence and the standards he sets, his preparation and the respect he generates. However I remember his lack of game day tactical nous, his preference on role players over x factor, and lack of future planning ie playing the younger players. But the biggest danger is that he trys to implement a defensive game plan that is based on pressure and lacks score board impact. As even in 09 when we were almost unbeatable, we were often in danger due to our low scores
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HA (Our score)
12.8 15.11 25.11 17.9 15.12 14.20 20.8 13.12 14.13 11.17 15.13 16.8 13.14 14.7 13.12 15.15 16.10 13.16 10.14 16.12

8.11 17.12


I would take those scores and the percentage of 155.7

We did drop scores in finals of 2009 Goals 12 9 9 sadly


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Re: Ross Lyon loves St Kilda

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SaintPav wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 1:59pm
Yorkeys wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 12:00pm
The G Train Legacy wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 11:36am
WellardSaint wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 10:44am
saynta wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 9:58am Be like getting back with your ex wife...never works

And...

Is everyone forgetting that this grub got fired from Freo for reasons other than football.
👍
There were allegations of misconduct towards a female staffer. More than one alleged instance.
A bloke in a position of power like him, with friends n suckholes on the board- when they behave badly, there's always a cover-up such as a payout etc
The misconduct allegations whether true or not, weren't hanging offences. You don't banish people; particularly highly competent ones, because they are flawed, as all humans are.
The abrasive elements of his personalty are also what makes him highly competent under pressure and a leader who men want to follow.
I wonder if Sonja Hood would agree with your sentiments at the moment.
Dr Sonja Hood. PhD
But she said just call me Sonja from the Hood, I'm sure.

Or Ms Shinbona.

Depends on the forum and/or winning streak.


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shanegrambeau wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 12:46am
Rubyjo wrote: Sat 15 Oct 2022 10:50pm Ross Lyon has been the only coach that has bought me joy ..apart from Stan Alved and Gt .
What about Keeny Sheldon??

Believe this???

Sheldon coached us for 86 games and only lost 36 times!!!

Can you believe it???

Fired of course.
Sheldon coached St Kilda in 89 games, 48 wins, 40 losses, 1 draw = 53.9%


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WellardSaint wrote: Sat 15 Oct 2022 9:52pm
Toy Saint wrote: Sat 15 Oct 2022 6:23pm Well this St Kilda fan doesn't love Ross Lyon
I cancelled my direct debit auto renewal before the finals.
When Lenny came back, I rang the club and said I am strongly inclined to re-sign.

Well, if the Tosser gets the gig, I will NOT rejoin
I know 4 Saints families who dropped memberships over past 3-4 years now considering signing up as the club finally appears serious
You’ll be back when we play finals


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chook23 wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 2:05pm
footynut wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 1:36pm He would positive and negatives to the club. Just like any other coach. In the positive side of the ledger is his demand for excellence and the standards he sets, his preparation and the respect he generates. However I remember his lack of game day tactical nous, his preference on role players over x factor, and lack of future planning ie playing the younger players. But the biggest danger is that he trys to implement a defensive game plan that is based on pressure and lacks score board impact. As even in 09 when we were almost unbeatable, we were often in danger due to our low scores
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HA (Our score)
12.8 15.11 25.11 17.9 15.12 14.20 20.8 13.12 14.13 11.17 15.13 16.8 13.14 14.7 13.12 15.15 16.10 13.16 10.14 16.12

8.11 17.12


I would take those scores and the percentage of 155.7

We did drop scores in finals of 2009 Goals 12 9 9 sadly
LMAO
Love the haters just buy the “cliches” and ignore facts
The absolute garbage served up under Ratten will not be tolerated under Lyon
I do not recall meeting any supporter when we were 19 wins straight 09 whingeing about %
**** me some must be only happy when the club are Shyte - like it gives them something to whine about
Sad.


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Watch


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After watching the video, Pretty obvious to many why he was sacked .


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Rubyjo wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 6:22pm After watching the video, Pretty obvious to many why he was sacked .
Yep,,everyone should watch, and listen to Lloyd at the end.

And as for Barrett - that contemptible opportunist, piling on St Kilda at the end....and now he's so full of compassion for poor 'ol Ratts.


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shanegrambeau wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 8:03pm
Rubyjo wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 6:22pm After watching the video, Pretty obvious to many why he was sacked .
Yep,,everyone should watch, and listen to Lloyd at the end.

And as for Barrett - that contemptible opportunist, piling on St Kilda at the end....and now he's so full of compassion for poor 'ol Ratts.
Barrett is a flat track bully, tees off with righteous indignation to the weak clubs and socks up to the powerful ones.
Love to see a coach square him up at a presser


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Re: Ross Lyon loves St Kilda

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Being a Saints member for 51 years; I've seen it all, and needless to say I've seen lots of coaches come and go. :roll: :roll: Ross Lyon is intelligent enough to adapt his coaching and game style to suit. Since Jeans; I believe he's been our best coach. Admittedly he is dealing with a new gen of younger players with different attitudes but if decides to take the job on let's buckle up and see how far he can take us. Contrary to many opinions, I think our list is very competitive and I believe we should have been playing finals this year.


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st sandy wrote: Sat 15 Oct 2022 6:10pm Can you believe that!!
Sorry - meant to add to previous thread - recent Age article

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/he- ... 5bq0w.html

St Kilda want to appoint their new senior coach within a fortnight, with Ross Lyon’s long-time lawyer expecting an approach from the club within days.

And the man who gave Lyon his career break and signed him as Saints coach in 2006 says there is no reason why the club and coach cannot forge a new relationship.

Lyon left the Saints in tumultuous circumstances after the 2011 season, when the club and his then manager thought they had agreed to a contract extension, only for Lyon to have done a separate deal with Fremantle.

Saintly intervention: Ross Lyon is the frontrunner to replace Brett Ratten, potentially returning to a club he left in tumultuous circumstances in 2011.
Saintly intervention: Ross Lyon is the frontrunner to replace Brett Ratten, potentially returning to a club he left in tumultuous circumstances in 2011.CREDIT:SEBASTIAN COSTANZO

However, Lyon, who guided the Saints into grand finals in 2009 and ’10, is still beloved by many players from his time there, including former captain and high-profile commentator Nick Riewoldt, and has emerged as the frontrunner to replace Brett Ratten - should he want the job.

Lyon does not have an agent, but his long-time lawyer John Gdanski, also a friend and confidant of Lyon, and a former Saints board director, said on Saturday that Lyon, who has worked in the media and in business since he left the Dockers, was expected to chat with the Saints this week.

“He has definitely not been approached and, like anyone, is always keen to have a chat. He loves St Kilda … (but) unless there is a particular offer, he is very happy where he is,” Gdanski said.

Rod Butterss says there is no reason why Ross Lyon and the Saints cannot build a new relationship together.
Rod Butterss says there is no reason why Ross Lyon and the Saints cannot build a new relationship together.CREDIT:JOE ARMAO

“Wouldn’t it be great to see the two of them, Lenny (Hayes) and Ross, together again.”

Club great Hayes recently agreed to return as an assistant coach alongside Ratten, the latter blindsided by his shock axing on Thursday. Angry friends of Ratten said on Saturday that he had been “stitched up” by Saints powerbrokers, and there was now no sympathy for a club desperate to be in the premiership mix as soon as next season.

this fan hates him. he wrecked the club.


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Did he?

Or the fact that it took Freo 8 hours to do what StK hierarchy couldn’t get done in 8 months


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Re: Ross Lyon loves St Kilda

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saynta wrote: Sun 16 Oct 2022 9:58am Be like getting back with your ex wife...never works

And...

Is everyone forgetting that this grub got fired from Freo for reasons other than football.
We're all human saynta and we all make mistakes

My beef with him is the way he blamed the players for our Grand Final losses and the way he scarred and tainted our boys in his final year in 2011.

I wrote as much at the end of the year in 2011, just after our loss to the Swans in the final. My beef with him was that instead of acknowledging what a wonderful group they were and how tough and talented they were, he was calling time on their careers.

Here was a guy selling belief when it suited him and all of a sudden he was telling his soldiers they had nothing left. They were done as far as being worthy of getting to the pinnacle with the same squad in his opinion. He was wrong, but his words probably had a profound effect on the group. What a prick!

I heard Roo say last year that he couldn't watch the 2009 GF, and his mate Joey told him during the week before the 2021 GF to watch the game because it was on Foxtel.

Roo said he realised and remembered what a brutal contest it was. Roo said he was glad he did and instead of feeling pain and regret (like he felt) for 12 years, he felt incredibly proud of the boys effort and also his own personal efforts.


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