How the f*** do we lose to the Hawks?

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How the f*** do we lose to the Hawks?

Post: # 2016422Post magnifisaint »

I just don't understand!
Gold Coast made them look like s***.


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Re: How the f*** do we lose to the Hawks?

Post: # 2016424Post Waltzing St Kilda »

Sicily wasn't there to kick it to.


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Re: How the f*** do we lose to the Hawks?

Post: # 2016427Post bigcarl »

Their midfield smashed ours and Sicily was the definitive best on ground.


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Post: # 2016428Post Scollop »

magnifisaint wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 8:10pm I just don't understand!
Gold Coast made them look like s***.
Why worry?

It's fine. Don't get too stressed

There's a lot of stuff you won't understand in life


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Re: How the f*** do we lose to the Hawks?

Post: # 2016433Post Sainter_Dad »

They weren't coming off a bye - but more importantly - Gold Coast weren't playing Markers Up with a half back


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Post: # 2016435Post Devilhead »

Gold Coast in Gold Coast are a different proposition than Gold Coast away

We will be playing there in 3 weeks


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Post: # 2016437Post shanegrambeau »

Has a team ever been so flattered to be fifth on the ladder after 15 Rounds?


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Post: # 2016443Post saynta »

magnifisaint wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 8:10pm I just don't understand!
Gold Coast made them look like s***.
Sicily


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Re: How the f*** do we lose to the Hawks?

Post: # 2016444Post magnifisaint »

We've really lacked a high quality backman for a long long time. We need someone who can dominate from CHB.


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Re: How the f*** do we lose to the Hawks?

Post: # 2016447Post The_Dud »

We play the 3 bottom teams in the next 5 weeks… how many will we beat??


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Re: How the f*** do we lose to the Hawks?

Post: # 2016460Post Banger9798 »

The real question emerging is , how have we won 8 times?
We seem to be a different side to the first 6 games.
Just dour and defensive now as opposed to exciting and daring.


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Post: # 2016468Post Templar »

Banger9798 wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 12:18am We seem to be a different side to the first 6 games.
Just dour and defensive now as opposed to exciting and daring.
The transition from the Ratten game plan to Lyons?
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Post: # 2016488Post Teflon »

bigcarl wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 8:17pm Their midfield smashed ours and Sicily was the definitive best on ground.
Bingo


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Post: # 2016492Post B.M »

Should we have tactically tried to stop Sicily?


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Post: # 2016537Post SaintPav »

The_Dud wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 9:52pm We play the 3 bottom teams in the next 5 weeks… how many will we beat??
At least 1. Maybe 2.


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Re: How the f*** do we lose to the Hawks?

Post: # 2016538Post samoht »

saynta wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 9:16pm
magnifisaint wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 8:10pm I just don't understand!
Gold Coast made them look like s***.
Sicily
I guess we're not au fait with the Sicilian Defence - it's basic chess 101, FFS (fee for service, but first lesson free).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicilian_Defence


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Post: # 2016539Post saintkev »

B.M wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 12:15pm Should we have tactically tried to stop Sicily?
Yeah. By not kicking it predictably to him. There is more than one avenue to goal. Kick the ball to strong leads and not the one static player.


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Post: # 2016543Post B.M »

Not that simple.

His opponent needed to engage him defensively

And in offence get more dangerous- and get used


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Post: # 2016596Post Teflon »

B.M wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 7:06pm Not that simple.

His opponent needed to engage him defensively

And in offence get more dangerous- and get used
Coaches don’t make a difference so it has to be on the players in field
We shoulda put Owens on him like last time….oh wait….he was injured
Who were you putting on him???
And how were you stopping your love child Seb from kicking it to him ????


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Post: # 2016597Post Teflon »

saintkev wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 6:18pm
B.M wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 12:15pm Should we have tactically tried to stop Sicily?
Yeah. By not kicking it predictably to him. There is more than one avenue to goal. Kick the ball to strong leads and not the one static player.
Spot on


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Post: # 2017320Post The_Dud »

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Re: How the f*** do we lose to the Hawks?

Post: # 2017321Post Otiman »

This thought literally just went through my head.

My only answer is "Sicily".


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Re: How the f*** do we lose to the Hawks?

Post: # 2017322Post samuraisaint »

Considering we were twenty points up with ten minutes to go and were attacking in our forward line at the time, this was the one game I look at so far this year and consider some of the performances by our players as pretty much unforgivable.

One player, particularly a defender no less, should not have been the accelerant for a victory by a bottom side.

The only thing I can suggest is that we have been playing an under 19s forward line all season, and are still undermanned in the midfield, so therein lies the answer to that question I'd wager.


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Re: How the f*** do we lose to the Hawks?

Post: # 2017323Post Otiman »

When I look at our games this year, you can rank into a few categories.

Very Poor
Adelaide, Hawthorn

Poor
North Melbourne, Brisbane, Richmond

Average (about where we are at)
Sydney, GWS, Port, Carlton, Collingwood

Good
Essendon, Fremantle, WBD, Gold Coast


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Re: How the f*** do we lose to the Hawks?

Post: # 2017324Post Life Long Saint »

Thought we were good against both Port and Collingwood.


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