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Re: West Coast with new coach next week??

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We were decent up until the Port Adelaide game.
Since then we've beaten North only because they are worse than us.
Were smashed by Adelaide.
Just got over a struggling GWS.
Lost a game to the 3rd worst team in the comp after leading by 20 points late in the game and conceding the last five goals in-a-row.
Beat Sydney...and that one was a good win.
Lost to Richmond, who are genuinely struggling.
Were beaten all over the ground by Brisbane in a town they struggle in and were lucky to only lose by 28 points.

We've had two months of being average and one month where we played well.

If you were a gambler, what do you think the line should be for us? What start do we give the Eagles?


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We did lose a very popular fitness coach


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tony74 wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:16pm We did lose a very popular fitness coach
Thanks for posting Tony.


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tony74 wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:16pm We did lose a very popular fitness coach
Lyon known for high turnover of assistant coaches.


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Re: West Coast with new coach next week??

Post: # 2016388Post Teflon »

Life Long Saint wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 4:14pm We were decent up until the Port Adelaide game.
Since then we've beaten North only because they are worse than us.
Were smashed by Adelaide.
Just got over a struggling GWS.
Lost a game to the 3rd worst team in the comp after leading by 20 points late in the game and conceding the last five goals in-a-row.
Beat Sydney...and that one was a good win.
Lost to Richmond, who are genuinely struggling.
Were beaten all over the ground by Brisbane in a town they struggle in and were lucky to only lose by 28 points.

We've had two months of being average and one month where we played well.

If you were a gambler, what do you think the line should be for us? What start do we give the Eagles?
We aren’t at our best no question but you’re making the woes seem far worse and dismissing the wins

GWS - away, they went on to beat Cats a week later at sleepy hollow???
Sydney - away 1st time since 09
Richmond - away, Captains 300th and Tigers hitting form previous weeks
Brisbane - top 4 side and will be again

It’s up n down but we’re still playing kids - check forward line on weekend
No midfield
Experience like Membrey DMac Jones Clark Billing’s Hayes all injured?????

I mean perspective..


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tony74 wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:16pm We did lose a very popular fitness coach
He was replaced, wasn't he? Are you saying that his replacement is not up to the job?


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Re: West Coast with new coach next week??

Post: # 2016391Post Teflon »

Life Long Saint wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:48pm
tony74 wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:16pm We did lose a very popular fitness coach
He was replaced, wasn't he? Are you saying that his replacement is not up to the job?
What does that mean Tony?
Surely we aren’t sliding cause a liked fitness guy left ?


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Teflon wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:46pm We aren’t at our best no question but you’re making the woes seem far worse and dismissing the wins

GWS - away, they went on to beat Cats a week later at sleepy hollow???
Sydney - away 1st time since 09
Richmond - away, Captains 300th and Tigers hitting form previous weeks
Brisbane - top 4 side and will be again

It’s up n down but we’re still playing kids - check forward line on weekend
No midfield
Experience like Membrey DMac Jones Clark Billing’s Hayes all injured?????

I mean perspective..
Our woes are not good. We see the same issues week after week. King is the only genuine option up forward. Caminiti's opponent week after week does what he likes. He can't be retained in the team. Either play Cordy or bring Campbell in and play Marshall forward. Going into the game with no structure change week after week is madness. It was no coincidence that we took complete control in the Sydney game when the sub was made.

The early wins were good. No doubt. Fremantle, Bulldogs, an in-form Essendon...All great wins. We played with a dare that went missing after the Port loss.

No midfield???
Only Jones is missing from the regulars, and, according to this forum, he is no good anyway (not a view I share).
The talent in the middle isn't the issue. It's the desire that's lacking.

BTW, you can't use the word experience and include Hayes in that list. Yes, he's 27 but has played five games of AFL football.


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Re: West Coast with new coach next week??

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Teflon wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:50pm
Life Long Saint wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:48pm
tony74 wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:16pm We did lose a very popular fitness coach
He was replaced, wasn't he? Are you saying that his replacement is not up to the job?
What does that mean Tony?
Surely we aren’t sliding cause a liked fitness guy left ?
So much of football is above the shoulders,when a club changes coaches mid stream they often play above themselves. All I know is Nick had a great rapport with the players. You don’t lose fitness overnight and Alex seems a great get…..but I repeat he was very popular with the boys and again I repeat so much of our performances are above the shoulders. The timing of the way we’ve been playing before and after is interesting to say the least.


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Re: West Coast with new coach next week??

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tony74 wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 9:47pm
Teflon wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:50pm
Life Long Saint wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:48pm
tony74 wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:16pm We did lose a very popular fitness coach
He was replaced, wasn't he? Are you saying that his replacement is not up to the job?
What does that mean Tony?
Surely we aren’t sliding cause a liked fitness guy left ?
So much of football is above the shoulders,when a club changes coaches mid stream they often play above themselves. All I know is Nick had a great rapport with the players. You don’t lose fitness overnight and Alex seems a great get…..but I repeat he was very popular with the boys and again I repeat so much of our performances are above the shoulders. The timing of the way we’ve been playing before and after is interesting to say the least.
That's a damning indictment on our players if true.
You're essentially saying they've cracked the s***s since Nick left.


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Re: West Coast with new coach next week??

Post: # 2016462Post Banger9798 »

If we lose this week I'm officially giving up on football


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We will scrape in by 3 goals


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Re: West Coast with new coach next week??

Post: # 2016465Post Teflon »

Life Long Saint wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:57pm
Teflon wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:46pm We aren’t at our best no question but you’re making the woes seem far worse and dismissing the wins

GWS - away, they went on to beat Cats a week later at sleepy hollow???
Sydney - away 1st time since 09
Richmond - away, Captains 300th and Tigers hitting form previous weeks
Brisbane - top 4 side and will be again

It’s up n down but we’re still playing kids - check forward line on weekend
No midfield
Experience like Membrey DMac Jones Clark Billing’s Hayes all injured?????

I mean perspective..
Our woes are not good. We see the same issues week after week. King is the only genuine option up forward. Caminiti's opponent week after week does what he likes. He can't be retained in the team. Either play Cordy or bring Campbell in and play Marshall forward. Going into the game with no structure change week after week is madness. It was no coincidence that we took complete control in the Sydney game when the sub was made.

The early wins were good. No doubt. Fremantle, Bulldogs, an in-form Essendon...All great wins. We played with a dare that went missing after the Port loss.

No midfield???
Only Jones is missing from the regulars, and, according to this forum, he is no good anyway (not a view I share).
The talent in the middle isn't the issue. It's the desire that's lacking.

BTW, you can't use the word experience and include Hayes in that list. Yes, he's 27 but has played five games of AFL football.
Playing Campbell and Cordy gets us nowhere
Yea Caminiti has been monstered on occasion but if he’s the future I’d rather he play than drop him to give Campbell games
This side ain’t a serious finals side anyway so why pretend??
I’ll give you Hayes if you give me midfield ..
Do you really think this midfield we have at moment is top notch?
Only Crouch has played with a level of consistency
Oh and GWS and Sydney wins were very good
Tempered by Hawks Crows losses
Reality is we are sliding to where we ought to be
Water always finds its level ..


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Re: West Coast with new coach next week??

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Life Long Saint wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 10:47pm
tony74 wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 9:47pm
Teflon wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:50pm
Life Long Saint wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:48pm
tony74 wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:16pm We did lose a very popular fitness coach
He was replaced, wasn't he? Are you saying that his replacement is not up to the job?
What does that mean Tony?
Surely we aren’t sliding cause a liked fitness guy left ?
So much of football is above the shoulders,when a club changes coaches mid stream they often play above themselves. All I know is Nick had a great rapport with the players. You don’t lose fitness overnight and Alex seems a great get…..but I repeat he was very popular with the boys and again I repeat so much of our performances are above the shoulders. The timing of the way we’ve been playing before and after is interesting to say the least.
That's a damning indictment on our players if true.
You're essentially saying they've cracked the s***s since Nick left.
It’s understandable that players reacted to the change of fitness coach, it’s human nature. Clubs are such tight knit environments and strong bonds form. Whilst sorry to see Nick go I’m glad that if , those who know a bit about fitness, deemed that we needed to be even better in this area, chose to make the change mid season with the future in mind.


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Teflon wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 1:34am
Life Long Saint wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:57pm
Teflon wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:46pm We aren’t at our best no question but you’re making the woes seem far worse and dismissing the wins

GWS - away, they went on to beat Cats a week later at sleepy hollow???
Sydney - away 1st time since 09
Richmond - away, Captains 300th and Tigers hitting form previous weeks
Brisbane - top 4 side and will be again

It’s up n down but we’re still playing kids - check forward line on weekend
No midfield
Experience like Membrey DMac Jones Clark Billing’s Hayes all injured?????

I mean perspective..
Our woes are not good. We see the same issues week after week. King is the only genuine option up forward. Caminiti's opponent week after week does what he likes. He can't be retained in the team. Either play Cordy or bring Campbell in and play Marshall forward. Going into the game with no structure change week after week is madness. It was no coincidence that we took complete control in the Sydney game when the sub was made.

The early wins were good. No doubt. Fremantle, Bulldogs, an in-form Essendon...All great wins. We played with a dare that went missing after the Port loss.

No midfield???
Only Jones is missing from the regulars, and, according to this forum, he is no good anyway (not a view I share).
The talent in the middle isn't the issue. It's the desire that's lacking.

BTW, you can't use the word experience and include Hayes in that list. Yes, he's 27 but has played five games of AFL football.
Playing Campbell and Cordy gets us nowhere
Yea Caminiti has been monstered on occasion but if he’s the future I’d rather he play than drop him to give Campbell games
This side ain’t a serious finals side anyway so why pretend??
I’ll give you Hayes if you give me midfield ..
Do you really think this midfield we have at moment is top notch?
Only Crouch has played with a level of consistency
Oh and GWS and Sydney wins were very good
Tempered by Hawks Crows losses
Reality is we are sliding to where we ought to be
Water always finds its level ..
Clubs should always be aiming for finals no matter what their situation. Every season you don't make the final 8, is another season you blow a chance of a possible premiership.


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Saint2 wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 8:41am
Teflon wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 1:34am
Life Long Saint wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:57pm
Teflon wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:46pm We aren’t at our best no question but you’re making the woes seem far worse and dismissing the wins

GWS - away, they went on to beat Cats a week later at sleepy hollow???
Sydney - away 1st time since 09
Richmond - away, Captains 300th and Tigers hitting form previous weeks
Brisbane - top 4 side and will be again

It’s up n down but we’re still playing kids - check forward line on weekend
No midfield
Experience like Membrey DMac Jones Clark Billing’s Hayes all injured?????

I mean perspective..
Our woes are not good. We see the same issues week after week. King is the only genuine option up forward. Caminiti's opponent week after week does what he likes. He can't be retained in the team. Either play Cordy or bring Campbell in and play Marshall forward. Going into the game with no structure change week after week is madness. It was no coincidence that we took complete control in the Sydney game when the sub was made.

The early wins were good. No doubt. Fremantle, Bulldogs, an in-form Essendon...All great wins. We played with a dare that went missing after the Port loss.

No midfield???
Only Jones is missing from the regulars, and, according to this forum, he is no good anyway (not a view I share).
The talent in the middle isn't the issue. It's the desire that's lacking.

BTW, you can't use the word experience and include Hayes in that list. Yes, he's 27 but has played five games of AFL football.
Playing Campbell and Cordy gets us nowhere
Yea Caminiti has been monstered on occasion but if he’s the future I’d rather he play than drop him to give Campbell games
This side ain’t a serious finals side anyway so why pretend??
I’ll give you Hayes if you give me midfield ..
Do you really think this midfield we have at moment is top notch?
Only Crouch has played with a level of consistency
Oh and GWS and Sydney wins were very good
Tempered by Hawks Crows losses
Reality is we are sliding to where we ought to be
Water always finds its level ..
Clubs should always be aiming for finals no matter what their situation. Every season you don't make the final 8, is another season you blow a chance of a possible premiership.
Not according to a few on here that think eternal development, building & useless ‘marquee’ games are more important.


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West Coast would be up for $7 million if they sack the coach!


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I’m an angry ant this week.
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Post: # 2016559Post StPeter »

I heard somewhere WC had 15 of their 2018 premiership team playing at the moment with some more to return.

Let's not underestimate how they might turn things around with the spotlight on their current form.


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Coasters will come our firing and only lose by 120.

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Post: # 2016561Post StPeter »

I heard somewhere WC had 15 of their 2018 premiership team playing at the moment with some more to return.

Let's not underestimate how they might turn things around with the spotlight on their current form.


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Post: # 2016610Post Teflon »

Annoyedsaint wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 9:03am
Saint2 wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 8:41am
Teflon wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 1:34am
Life Long Saint wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:57pm
Teflon wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 5:46pm We aren’t at our best no question but you’re making the woes seem far worse and dismissing the wins

GWS - away, they went on to beat Cats a week later at sleepy hollow???
Sydney - away 1st time since 09
Richmond - away, Captains 300th and Tigers hitting form previous weeks
Brisbane - top 4 side and will be again

It’s up n down but we’re still playing kids - check forward line on weekend
No midfield
Experience like Membrey DMac Jones Clark Billing’s Hayes all injured?????

I mean perspective..
Our woes are not good. We see the same issues week after week. King is the only genuine option up forward. Caminiti's opponent week after week does what he likes. He can't be retained in the team. Either play Cordy or bring Campbell in and play Marshall forward. Going into the game with no structure change week after week is madness. It was no coincidence that we took complete control in the Sydney game when the sub was made.

The early wins were good. No doubt. Fremantle, Bulldogs, an in-form Essendon...All great wins. We played with a dare that went missing after the Port loss.

No midfield???
Only Jones is missing from the regulars, and, according to this forum, he is no good anyway (not a view I share).
The talent in the middle isn't the issue. It's the desire that's lacking.

BTW, you can't use the word experience and include Hayes in that list. Yes, he's 27 but has played five games of AFL football.
Playing Campbell and Cordy gets us nowhere
Yea Caminiti has been monstered on occasion but if he’s the future I’d rather he play than drop him to give Campbell games
This side ain’t a serious finals side anyway so why pretend??
I’ll give you Hayes if you give me midfield ..
Do you really think this midfield we have at moment is top notch?
Only Crouch has played with a level of consistency
Oh and GWS and Sydney wins were very good
Tempered by Hawks Crows losses
Reality is we are sliding to where we ought to be
Water always finds its level ..
Clubs should always be aiming for finals no matter what their situation. Every season you don't make the final 8, is another season you blow a chance of a possible premiership.
Not according to a few on here that think eternal development, building & useless ‘marquee’ games are more important.
Eternal development?????
WTF?
We’ve been in no man’s land mid table for a decade ??
I’d argue we’ve not developed at all …till last 2 drafts where we stopped bringing in ring ins…hit the draft …picked well and voila ! Have some decent kids to show for it
Need more


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Post: # 2016644Post Scollop »

Ok I get it...develop the youngsters...but not if your surname is Bytel

Some of our younger guys with similar attributes were languishing in the magoos while questions were asked of Seb Ross and Crouch and even the effectiveness of Jack Steele playing under an injury cloud.

Also: Exploration does not include Crouch getting dropped.

I've noticed the coach has played Crouch off a wing and at half forward in recent weeks but he remains in the team...odd! I thought he was an inside mid.

RTB wants a team capable of running and spreading and mids who can get back in numbers to help our defenders. Winning the ball with efficiency at the coalface has become secondary. Efficient inside 50's and effective disposals are secondary to effort.

Crouch remained in the team despite the form slump he had which started in Round 6 against Carlton. This was around the same time that both Windy and Bytel were ripping it up at Sandringham while Crouch was struggling for 3-4 games. It was in April and May.

Match committee have played Crouch for 14 games in a row because they need to see how he's developing... possibly ?? :?

There's no way of knowing if Bytel could be more effective at stoppages than Crouch and especially at centre clearances and no way of finding out if he's going to help the senior team make finals because match committee have decided they want Crouch in the team for 22 games


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Post: # 2016652Post Yorkeys »

New CEO first. Then coach, who is likely to be a West Australian. Is Worsfold still in the industry? Hopefully they still have one more shocker in them.


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Post: # 2016655Post SaintPav »

Wonder if we can break even with their midfield?

I’m sure the coaching mastermind has a grand plan.


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