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shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Sat 01 Jul 2023 5:55pm
Before I right off Bytel, you said that he has no defensive capabilities at ball ups right?
Then what are/ were his strengths
Seems he may have played with an injury, unless he has suddenly been called up for a flight west?
He is ball hunter and releases quickly, like Crouch and he does second and third efforts.
But when the opposition have agile, quick or powerful mids, he is left wanting. He was exposed today.
It's simple really. He is depth and, when playing against other AFL depth, he looks very effective.He blocks and tackles and tackles are great but that's not defending a clearance. He is about 4th in line on his skills set.
shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Sat 01 Jul 2023 5:55pm
Before I right off Bytel, you said that he has no defensive capabilities at ball ups right?
Then what are/ were his strengths
Seems he may have played with an injury, unless he has suddenly been called up for a flight west?
He is ball hunter and releases quickly, like Crouch and he does second and third efforts.
But when the opposition have agile, quick or powerful mids, he is left wanting. He was exposed today.
It's simple really. He is depth and, when playing against other AFL depth, he looks very effective.He blocks and tackles and tackles are great but that's not defending a clearance. He is about 4th in line on his skills set.
So you are saying he is a good in-and-under ferret, but gets bustled out of the way by bigger bodies at the clinches?
A 76 point drubbing really highlighted our lack of skills and how poor we are around clearance. Werribee slaughtered Sandi at ground level and their balls skills were far superior. We all knew the Saints list had holes well today highlighted there is huge 'black hole' as far as midfielders are concerned.
Jones got going after the 1st quarter and earned himself a call up. Heath got his hands to the ball but most of hitouts went to the opposition, he has no awareness where to hit the ball and he goes to the ground too easily. Adams showed a bit in the air, everyone else was ordinary.
Bytel & McKenzie get an exception as both were injured during the game. Unfortunately that might be the last time we see Dmac, I think he has run out of time.
I'm with killa on this one, not bothered by the scoreboard as the team is not cohesive enough to play a structure. That's another problem but won't be solved overnight.
I can see now why we need to use long stints in the Saints side for development reasons.
Philippou would go backwards playing VFL with Sandy.
Otiman wrote: ↑Sat 01 Jul 2023 8:21pm
I'm with killa on this one, not bothered by the scoreboard as the team is not cohesive enough to play a structure. That's another problem but won't be solved overnight.
I can see now why we need to use long stints in the Saints side for development reasons.
Philippou would go backwards playing VFL with Sandy.
The last sentence is accurate.
I think that's why the coaches aren't dropping him, even though he could use a break.
Playing for Sandy, for him, would be like using your Porsche to collect firewood and take rubbish to the tip
A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤ and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
Otiman wrote: ↑Sat 01 Jul 2023 8:21pm
I'm with killa on this one, not bothered by the scoreboard as the team is not cohesive enough to play a structure. That's another problem but won't be solved overnight.
I can see now why we need to use long stints in the Saints side for development reasons.
Philippou would go backwards playing VFL with Sandy.
Are you suggesting our coaches are on to something?
shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Sat 01 Jul 2023 5:55pm
Before I right off Bytel, you said that he has no defensive capabilities at ball ups right?
Then what are/ were his strengths
Seems he may have played with an injury, unless he has suddenly been called up for a flight west?
He is ball hunter and releases quickly, like Crouch and he does second and third efforts.
But when the opposition have agile, quick or powerful mids, he is left wanting. He was exposed today.
It's simple really. He is depth and, when playing against other AFL depth, he looks very effective.He blocks and tackles and tackles are great but that's not defending a clearance. He is about 4th in line on his skills set.
So you are saying he is a good in-and-under ferret, but gets bustled out of the way by bigger bodies at the clinches?
I'm hoping RTB's year of exploration results in a decent list turnover at year's end, if not, then my fear that he attends training half tanked might be more accurate than i really believed.
I'm puzzled as to how Zebs get beaten so easily, so often.
How does any Saints-listed player work on their game, effectively, when the team is such a rabble?
A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤ and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
WellardSaint wrote: ↑Sun 02 Jul 2023 4:18am
I'm puzzled as to how Zebs get beaten so easily, so often.
How does any Saints-listed player work on their game, effectively, when the team is such a rabble?
Maybe Sandy just haven't had the resources to grab a few better quality players in recent times, plus possibly the inconsistent form of the Saints players, plus their unavailability for some games is unsettling the team balance. I looked at quite a few Sandy games this season, and there is a real lack of fire in the belly in contests, and no strong leadership on field. It looks like a bunch of guys who don't know each other thrown together to play a game of footy. Can't say I see much evidence of good coaching to be honest. Something the top brass at Sandy FC and StK FC need to sort out pronto.
shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Sun 02 Jul 2023 11:47am
My secret plan is this
Take advantage of the fact that Sandy is a stand-alone team and not restricted by AFL rules like the others
Get some middle-east oil money in there like Manchester City and others did.
Sandy Zebras now become Saudi Zebras.
To entice an Arab shiek, tell them it comes with all the yachts at the Sandy Yacht Club.
Shower the place in money..
It worked for Man City
It has gotta work for us
Saudi Zebras
Saudi Saints
Wrexham Football Club. Money from Ryan Reynolds (Deadpool) and another Ryan actor that nobody's ever heard of.
They got promoted up a level.
Get Saudi money, don't do a Pride game (or they'll pull out) and see Zebs dominate.
I'm sure Middle East folk know creative ways to pay players off the books. Buy them houses (that's massive bait)
A real Sainter will pledge allegiance to the ❤ and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
Remember one of the 10 Commandments : Thou shalt have no other team before thee
Men (the Bees) v boys (the Zees).
No team continuity.
AFL listed guys coming back to fitness and just playing for themselves
Bottom third of Zees are relatively untalented
Team knows its never playing finals and are just training fodder
So it goes...
Playing in a lost cause builds character and is an incentive for the listed few to get promoted asap.
accurate.
and despise the Pies, the Blues, and the Injectors.
