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An environmentally green flag, would that be a world first?
An EV for every man, women and child before 2035.
I guess these cars will end up being judged on their plus/minus merit's eventually, just like products from western countries. Most of us did shake off the belief that everything made in Japan is only junk around 50 years ago.
Yep, it's why coal is funding my lavish lifestyle and will fund my lavish retirement.
We’re facing a mass extermination event and all you can talk about is your “lifestyle”.Vortex wrote: ↑Tue 03 Oct 2023 8:28pmYep, it's why coal is funding my lavish lifestyle and will fund my lavish retirement.
I'm not in the camp that claims you can save the planet one lithium battery at a time, especially not while I'm seeing unprecedented investment in the coal sector right here in Australia.SaintPav wrote: ↑Wed 04 Oct 2023 12:58amWe’re facing a mass extermination event and all you can talk about is your “lifestyle”.Vortex wrote: ↑Tue 03 Oct 2023 8:28pmYep, it's why coal is funding my lavish lifestyle and will fund my lavish retirement.
I’m willing to post in the dark to help save the planet.Vortex wrote: ↑Wed 04 Oct 2023 7:44amI'm not in the camp that claims you can save the planet one lithium battery at a time, especially not while I'm seeing unprecedented investment in the coal sector right here in Australia.SaintPav wrote: ↑Wed 04 Oct 2023 12:58amWe’re facing a mass extermination event and all you can talk about is your “lifestyle”.Vortex wrote: ↑Tue 03 Oct 2023 8:28pmYep, it's why coal is funding my lavish lifestyle and will fund my lavish retirement.
I mean how else do you charge a lithium battery, without coal, there are no EVs.
What about flying in a battery operated passenger jet for your overseas holidays or would you be willing to forgo your overseas holidays all together to save the planet?
I charge mine with pure solar from my roof!
You are a true warrior of the planet and I salute you, if your energy consumption rates allow it then more should do it. But to be a true planet saving warrior you need to stay within your pure solar energy budget, no sneaking off for an overseas holiday on one of those hydrocarbon burners, or hopping on a coal guzzling train to the footy, and definitely no night time footy with all those hydrocarbon fuelled lights. And no internet shopping where all of your purchases are delivered with hydrocarbons. And to be a 5 star general planet-saving warrior you need a vegie patch out back to avoid getting all of your food manufactured, processed and delivered with hydrocarbons.
What is it with the anti-green people?Vortex wrote: ↑Wed 04 Oct 2023 11:18amYou are a true warrior of the planet and I salute you, if your energy consumption rates allow it then more should do it. But to be a true planet saving warrior you need to stay within your pure solar energy budget, no sneaking off for an overseas holiday on one of those hydrocarbon burners, or hopping on a coal guzzling train to the footy, and definitely no night time footy with all those hydrocarbon fuelled lights. And no internet shopping where all of your purchases are delivered with hydrocarbons. And to be a 5 star general planet-saving warrior you need a vegie patch out back to avoid getting all of your food manufactured, processed and delivered with hydrocarbons.
How pure are your solar credentials? I'm genuinely curious?
What have you got against flying economy to Europe for $15K with 15 stopovers thrown in?
I see first hand the unprecedented investment in coal extraction, BHP alone is still investing billions of dollars per annum in capex on coal projects, it's a sector that partially funds my lifestyle, other parts are funded with all of the hard rock minerals needed to support "zero emissions", which incidentally will at some point in the not too distant future have supply issues as city folk embrace their "energy transition".Life Long Saint wrote: ↑Wed 04 Oct 2023 12:29pmWhat is it with the anti-green people?Vortex wrote: ↑Wed 04 Oct 2023 11:18amYou are a true warrior of the planet and I salute you, if your energy consumption rates allow it then more should do it. But to be a true planet saving warrior you need to stay within your pure solar energy budget, no sneaking off for an overseas holiday on one of those hydrocarbon burners, or hopping on a coal guzzling train to the footy, and definitely no night time footy with all those hydrocarbon fuelled lights. And no internet shopping where all of your purchases are delivered with hydrocarbons. And to be a 5 star general planet-saving warrior you need a vegie patch out back to avoid getting all of your food manufactured, processed and delivered with hydrocarbons.
How pure are your solar credentials? I'm genuinely curious?
Does it really have to be all or nothing?
There are some things that we have no control over (like overseas holidays).
How about getting out of the mess the same way we got in it? A bit at a time.
As Ash Barty and Steph Gilmour say "All or something".
Do what you can where you can.
Marvel is a predominant LED lighting venue now. It's how they're able to turn them off/on so quickly...So much better for the environment using way less elecricity.
More and more companies are moving to a carbon neutral footprint. Even F1 is going that way with bio fuels.
I see more and more buses that are either hybrid or EV.
More and more cars on the road are EVs.
We are ditching gas as an energy source in new houses because there's no renewable option for it.
We are heading in the right direction. The days of fossil fuels are numbered. That might still be a large number, but it's a number and it's reducing.
Almost as appealing as towing a toilet around Australia.SaintPav wrote: ↑Wed 04 Oct 2023 12:46pmWhat have you got against flying economy to Europe for $15K with 15 stopovers thrown in?
EV motor homes rock…Vortex wrote: ↑Wed 04 Oct 2023 2:09pmAlmost as appealing as towing a toilet around Australia.SaintPav wrote: ↑Wed 04 Oct 2023 12:46pmWhat have you got against flying economy to Europe for $15K with 15 stopovers thrown in?