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The Pou wants to hold up the cup for the Saints second premiershipskeptic wrote: ↑Thu 14 Dec 2023 4:50pmAdmittedly, it is rather off brand for me. Still, history says I’ll have plenty of time to course correct
One doesn't have to go that far back, in fact one only has to review the 2023 season to know we are a fair way off it, for large portions of the season we were very average, had it not been for a very easy draw and results from other clubs going our way we wouldn't have got anywhere near the finals. We had injuries that didn't help however the team we fielded against against GWS was close to our best team and the result in that game is probably the best measure we have of how much more work there is to be done. My guess is we are about 2-3 years away from becoming a sustainable final 4 side, with one caveat, all of the young kids turn into the GF types many believe they will become. Time will tell.samuraisaint wrote: ↑Sat 16 Dec 2023 8:51am Well, we'd want to become more consistent against our opponents.
Consider these results over the past decade:
Adelaide: 3 wins - 14 defeats
Collingwood 3 wins - 13 defeats - 1 draw
Geelong 3 wins - 12 defeats - 1 draw
Port Adelaide 1 win 12 defeats
Sydney Swans 3 wins - 13 defeats
Eagles 4 wins -12 defeats
That's a winning percentage of 18% against 6 of our opponents. RTB would want to tidy that up a fair bit. Focusing on getting wins interstate consistently is the obvious place to start (and yes, I am including Geelong in that).
In round 10 St Kilda accounted for GWS on their home turf by 2 goals.Vortex wrote: ↑Sat 16 Dec 2023 9:48am
One doesn't have to go that far back, in fact one only has to review the 2023 season to know we are a fair way off it, for large portions of the season we were very average, had it not been for a very easy draw and results from other clubs going our way we wouldn't have got anywhere near the finals. We had injuries that didn't help however the team we fielded against against GWS was close to our best team and the result in that game is probably the best measure we have of how much more work there is to be done. My guess is we are about 2-3 years away from becoming a sustainable final 4 side, with one caveat, all of the young kids turn into the GF types many believe they will become. Time will tell.
Granted the events leading into the final were not ideal, had it been a year where we were a serious contender then it would have been even more frustrating but as always it's only a game and I really hope Members can get back to his best, because when he is, he is one of my favorite players to watch, very underrated, was a much bigger loss to our season and the development of King and Co, and not just the final.Sanctorum wrote: ↑Sat 16 Dec 2023 10:28amIn round 10 St Kilda accounted for GWS on their home turf by 2 goals.Vortex wrote: ↑Sat 16 Dec 2023 9:48am
One doesn't have to go that far back, in fact one only has to review the 2023 season to know we are a fair way off it, for large portions of the season we were very average, had it not been for a very easy draw and results from other clubs going our way we wouldn't have got anywhere near the finals. We had injuries that didn't help however the team we fielded against against GWS was close to our best team and the result in that game is probably the best measure we have of how much more work there is to be done. My guess is we are about 2-3 years away from becoming a sustainable final 4 side, with one caveat, all of the young kids turn into the GF types many believe they will become. Time will tell.
When they met again in the qualifying final the team was clearly unsettled by the last minute withdrawal of Tim Membrey due to a personal crisis issue that landed him in hospital.
The team played without their customary dare and flair and went down by 4 goals in a really lacklustre performance.
I think it's fair to say that if Membrey had played the result would have been different, so I don't think you can argue that performance as a "best measure" of where St Kilda is at.
But I do agree that St Kilda's destiny in 2024 is very much dependent on it's young brigade, and I'm backing them to really turn it on and make top 4.