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Here’s one from the club. Pretty exciting news re Collard. Human highlights reel who is probably a couple of good praccy matches away from taking Butler’s spot in R1. We might have ourselves a gem there.
What happened to Caminiti at training today, 9 news showed his head bandaged and extra bandaging around one of his ears.
Did one of his team mates try to pull his ear back to it's sticky out position, bet it was someone who is always injured.
bobmurray wrote: ↑Sat 03 Feb 2024 12:06am
What i do know is Hayes and probably Jones will be training away from the group.
They will be my first 2 delistings at years end.
Is this a new development with Jones? All reports so far indicate that he is fit, firing and killing it at training
Recent reports I’ve read have said he’s being “ managed”, or words to that effect. Which may mean he has a niggle, or isn’t able to get back up to full speed without feeling something, or it may just mean he’s fully fit and they’re just pacing him.
bobmurray wrote: ↑Sat 03 Feb 2024 12:06am
What i do know is Hayes and probably Jones will be training away from the group.
They will be my first 2 delistings at years end.
Is this a new development with Jones? All reports so far indicate that he is fit, firing and killing it at training
Recent reports I’ve read have said he’s being “ managed”, or words to that effect. Which may mean he has a niggle, or isn’t able to get back up to full speed without feeling something, or it may just mean he’s fully fit and they’re just pacing him.
Let's hope it's the latter, He's best 22 and a point of difference when fit and firing but if he can't stay fit for a large chunk of this season then it's time to cut ties.
Jones would be a fantastic decoy at stoppages for Steele and Wilson, who will be getting pressured near by. Marshall is also very good at killing throw ins and clearing paths in stoppage.
If it comes together we will go from a defensive stance at stoppage to a very attacking and dangerous combo. Then there is Hill, Bonner, NWM, Henry and Wood on the peripheral.
I really hope Seb Ross stays fit too. We look very exciting all of a sudden. Let's not wear out the mature players while the young fleet footed hopefuls bust their guts to get a show in.
CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Sun 04 Feb 2024 7:10pm
Jones would be a fantastic decoy at stoppages for Steele and Wilson, who will be getting pressured near by. Marshall is also very good at killing throw ins and clearing paths in stoppage.
If it comes together we will go from a defensive stance at stoppage to a very attacking and dangerous combo. Then there is Hill, Bonner, NWM, Henry and Wood on the peripheral.
I really hope Seb Ross stays fit too. We look very exciting all of a sudden. Let's not wear out the mature players while the young fleet footed hopefuls bust their guts to get a show in.
I think people underestimate how handy a fit Jones would be. Even in the Ratten years we were far better with him in the team.
Most over rated player on our list now that Billings and Gresh have left. Sprays it left right and centre. Will play one good game every four and then get injured. Just can't rely on him to be healthy, and when he did get healthy, I recall Ratts being very critical of hime because he just couldn't get his hands on the ball as a mid. Complete waste of space as far as I'm concerned and should be cut when his contract expires. Looks great when things come off because he runs hard and is aggressive but more often than not he's a disappointment. Finally we're getting some turnover in players through our midfield with Owens, Pou, Wilson all coming through.
Moods wrote: ↑Mon 05 Feb 2024 5:04pm
Most over rated player on our list now that Billings and Gresh have left. Sprays it left right and centre. Will play one good game every four and then get injured. Just can't rely on him to be healthy, and when he did get healthy, I recall Ratts being very critical of hime because he just couldn't get his hands on the ball as a mid. Complete waste of space as far as I'm concerned and should be cut when his contract expires. Looks great when things come off because he runs hard and is aggressive but more often than not he's a disappointment. Finally we're getting some turnover in players through our midfield with Owens, Pou, Wilson all coming through.
He'll have to earn his place in future, however, when recently re-watching the matches from last year he did some good things when he was around, but not consistent enough for a team looking to climb. A problem with players who are in and out from injuries don't provide their team mates upfield a big enough sample to know the best place to be when he's under pressure.
I think the see ball, get ball, kick ball days of Richo and Ratten are over. It's clear our game will be designed to go back and sideways to booming accurate kicks. Jones gives us mongrel that doesn't exist without him. He just needs the support fr9m the right players around him. We have some very clever outside players now. Seb just doesn't have the explosiveness he once did. I just hope they both get strong and hold together, so Owens can focus on the first touch out of clearance.
CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Mon 05 Feb 2024 7:23pm
I think the see ball, get ball, kick ball days of Richo and Ratten are over. It's clear our game will be designed to go back and sideways to booming accurate kicks. Jones gives us mongrel that doesn't exist without him. He just needs the support fr9m the right players around him. We have some very clever outside players now. Seb just doesn't have the explosiveness he once did. I just hope they both get strong and hold together, so Owens can focus on the first touch out of clearance.
The lack of support for Jones has been glaring in the past
CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Mon 05 Feb 2024 7:23pm
I think the see ball, get ball, kick ball days of Richo and Ratten are over. It's clear our game will be designed to go back and sideways to booming accurate kicks. Jones gives us mongrel that doesn't exist without him. He just needs the support fr9m the right players around him. We have some very clever outside players now. Seb just doesn't have the explosiveness he once did. I just hope they both get strong and hold together, so Owens can focus on the first touch out of clearance.
The lack of support for Jones has been glaring in the past
I think it’s heightened by having had a few players that are seemingly always injured always and the team having such a bad run of it especially last year but certainly in recent seasons.
I said in another post that for me… 2 of Jones, Dmac and Billings needed to go. I’d have kept Billings myself but Jones is my fav of the bunch minus the fact that I simply have no confidence in his ability to run out a game. Seems if he runs hard… which is kind of expected of him as an explosive player, he’ll tweak something.
Wouldn’t surprise me to see Jones playing in a less role that sees him run less in 2024
Many, obviously not all… just reached the point of tiring to wait for a player to play his best
CQ SAINT wrote: ↑Mon 05 Feb 2024 7:23pm
I think the see ball, get ball, kick ball days of Richo and Ratten are over. It's clear our game will be designed to go back and sideways to booming accurate kicks. Jones gives us mongrel that doesn't exist without him. He just needs the support fr9m the right players around him. We have some very clever outside players now. Seb just doesn't have the explosiveness he once did. I just hope they both get strong and hold together, so Owens can focus on the first touch out of clearance.
The lack of support for Jones has been glaring in the past
I think it’s heightened by having had a few players that are seemingly always injured always and the team having such a bad run of it especially last year but certainly in recent seasons.
I said in another post that for me… 2 of Jones, Dmac and Billings needed to go. I’d have kept Billings myself but Jones is my fav of the bunch minus the fact that I simply have no confidence in his ability to run out a game. Seems if he runs hard… which is kind of expected of him as an explosive player, he’ll tweak something.
Wouldn’t surprise me to see Jones playing in a less role that sees him run less in 2024
Many, obviously not all… just reached the point of tiring to wait for a player to play his best
Could Jones play as a specialist sub?
Sounds ridiculous but it could work. He has impact and the question is if he can run out games well enough/recover well enough to repeat the effort the next week.
Disclaimer: posts are my views and shouldn't be taken as fact, even if I am in fact right.