Pick 3 in the draft

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Re: Pick 3 in the draft

Post: # 2061013Post B.M »

Getting the picks is only 1 part of rebuilding

Getting the selection right is part 2

Developing them correctly is part 4

Having the right leadership and culture around them - part 4


We got it very right in 2000-2002
GT should take a lot of credit for that

We got it very wrong 2012-2014
Elshaug and Pelchen couldn’t have fkd that up anymore if they tried


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Re: Pick 3 in the draft

Post: # 2061030Post Zed »

We are not getting McKay style compo for Battle.

Furthermore , you watch the AFL rules change on compo as the big clubs pit the heat on the AFL . They want the good players from the bottom clubs as FA , but they also want access to the top end draft picks so shunting them back in the order doesn’t suit their agenda,

FA compo picks will soon become meaningless.


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Re: Pick 3 in the draft

Post: # 2061032Post asiu »

dunno how its ...
bad management
if ... the hand we have been dealt is a foot
may as well , imo , hunt the best pick possible


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Re: Pick 3 in the draft

Post: # 2061040Post SydneySainter »

B.M wrote: Wed 22 May 2024 7:17pm Getting the picks is only 1 part of rebuilding

Getting the selection right is part 2

Developing them correctly is part 4

Having the right leadership and culture around them - part 4


We got it very right in 2000-2002
GT should take a lot of credit for that

We got it very wrong 2012-2014
Elshaug and Pelchen couldn’t have fkd that up anymore if they tried
Agreed re: the GT rebuild.

X was unlucky. Could have been a gun if he hadn’t also been a soft tissue injury nightmare.

The only thing which stopped us from nailing it was taking Ball over Judd.


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Re: Pick 3 in the draft

Post: # 2061261Post Saints58 »

Vortex wrote: Wed 22 May 2024 7:33am Battle is arguably one of our most important players without question. Can't see him going anywhere, in fact I'm sure of it.


















I wish I had your optimism but he is almost gone already according to my source.


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Re: Pick 3 in the draft

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SydneySainter wrote: Wed 22 May 2024 10:36pm
B.M wrote: Wed 22 May 2024 7:17pm Getting the picks is only 1 part of rebuilding

Getting the selection right is part 2

Developing them correctly is part 4

Having the right leadership and culture around them - part 4


We got it very right in 2000-2002
GT should take a lot of credit for that

We got it very wrong 2012-2014
Elshaug and Pelchen couldn’t have fkd that up anymore if they tried
Agreed re: the GT rebuild.

X was unlucky. Could have been a gun if he hadn’t also been a soft tissue injury nightmare.

The only thing which stopped us from nailing it was taking Ball over Judd.
Even the Ball pick was a little unlucky. His output before he was hampered by injuries (playing through osteitis pubis was the final straw really) far exceeded what came after, and even that was that of very good player.


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Re: Pick 3 in the draft

Post: # 2061264Post Vortex »

Saints58 wrote: Fri 24 May 2024 2:56pm
Vortex wrote: Wed 22 May 2024 7:33am Battle is arguably one of our most important players without question. Can't see him going anywhere, in fact I'm sure of it.


















I wish I had your optimism but he is almost gone already according to my source.
Which club do you think has his signature?


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Re: Pick 3 in the draft

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SydneySainter wrote: Wed 22 May 2024 10:36pm
B.M wrote: Wed 22 May 2024 7:17pm Getting the picks is only 1 part of rebuilding

Getting the selection right is part 2

Developing them correctly is part 4

Having the right leadership and culture around them - part 4


We got it very right in 2000-2002
GT should take a lot of credit for that

We got it very wrong 2012-2014
Elshaug and Pelchen couldn’t have fkd that up anymore if they tried
Agreed re: the GT rebuild.

X was unlucky. Could have been a gun if he hadn’t also been a soft tissue injury nightmare.

The only thing which stopped us from nailing it was taking Ball over Judd.
There are a few reasons we didn’t make it to Grand Finals in 2004 and 2005 and a few players who couldn’t contribute when it mattered… but Luke wasn’t one of those

We should have been on our way to a Grand Final in 2004 when Bally kicked a goal late in the game against Port before Wanganeen broke our hearts

Bally was 2nd in the Trevor Barker medal in 2004 and club champion and All Australian in 2005.

Stevie Baker’s old man though…I’ll concede on….along with 100’s of nuff nuffs who didn’t understand the consequences of changing our momentum


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Re: Pick 3 in the draft

Post: # 2061330Post SydneySainter »

I agree that pre-OP, Ball was an A-grade midfielder.

However, Judd was next level and already arguably the best player in the game.

I’m not saying taking Ball was necessarily a bad decision, but as much as hindsight is a wonderful thing, taking Judd was the difference from that being a very good draft era to us “nailing” it.


Until we have an administration that demands success and a playing group that bleeds for the guernsey, St. Kilda will just be a sh*tty football club.
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Re: Pick 3 in the draft

Post: # 2061346Post SaintPav »

Concerning that Battle hasn’t signed by now.


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Re: Pick 3 in the draft

Post: # 2061354Post Teflon »

SaintPav wrote: Fri 24 May 2024 11:38pm Concerning that Battle hasn’t signed by now.
Here’s captain obvious….🤦


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Re: Pick 3 in the draft

Post: # 2061379Post B.M »

2001 we had a very good draft - no doubt

But not just Ball over Judd at Pick 2

Pick 5
Clarke over Bartel

Pick 13
Dal Santo - Nailed

Pick 21
Maguire over Steve Johnson

Pick 37
Montagna - Nailed

Pick 49
Josh Houlihan over Dane Swan


Later in the draft
Adam Schneider
Brian Lake


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Re: Pick 3 in the draft

Post: # 2061380Post B.M »

If we just taken 1 or two of those

3 premierships in the noughties IMO


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Re: Pick 3 in the draft

Post: # 2061514Post B.M »

What about second rounders - which is what we will get for Battle

Dunstan, Hugh Goddard, McKenzie, Long


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