where does fraser stand ?

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where does fraser stand ?

Post: # 449167Post st_Trav_ofWA »

sorry if this has been posted b4 but i seldom look past the first page of SS

but i was wondering what we all though about where the big G stands in respect to our all time greats ??
surely Plugger would still be or greatest full forward and debates could be had on who is greater doc harves barker big carl .....
but where would frase fit in ? would you say top 10 maybe top 20 or top 50 or lower ??? ?


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Re: where does fraser stand ?

Post: # 449169Post bigcarl »

top 20. maybe top 10. will be marked down because he didn't play his entire career for us


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Post: # 449173Post st_Trav_ofWA »

bigcarl wrote:top 20. maybe top 10. will be marked down because he didn't play his entire career for us
neither did bigcarl or plugger

do you thing he could make our team of the century ? (personally i dont)
or team of the decade ? team of the last 30years ??


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Post: # 449176Post bigcarl »

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:
bigcarl wrote:top 20. maybe top 10. will be marked down because he didn't play his entire career for us


neither did bigcarl or plugger

true. perhaps i should have said he started at another club. lockett and ditterich made their names at st kilda. gehrig made his name at west coast. people will mark him down because of that.


could he make our team of the century? not at full-forward, but would make a pretty handy forward pocket
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Post: # 449179Post Cam1lla »

either top 20 or top 10


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Post: # 449182Post Oh When the Saints »

140 games, 381 goals for St Kilda

2nd B&F 2001
Leading Goalkicker 2003 - 2007
All-Australian 2004
Coleman Medal 2004, 2005

Only three players have kicked more goals for the club (Loewe, Lockett, Mohr).

Definitely would be in our best team of the last 20 years.

Have to be top 40 ever to play for the club IMO.
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Post: # 449184Post ausfatcat »

Cam1lla wrote:either top 20 or top 10

Fraser was good but I can think of 20 sraight away that I would put before him. Would struggle to make my team of the last twenty years. Let alone top 20 of all time.


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Post: # 449186Post saintbart »

Perhaps another question would be who was our greatest full forward?

IMO Plugger would be 1, Gtrain 2, and going from what I've actually seen, I would rate George Young 3.


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Post: # 449188Post Oh When the Saints »

Plugger and Mohr are easily the best full-forwards we've had ...

Gehrig was good, but Mohr kicked 750-odd in under 200 games, and so did Plugger.


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Post: # 449319Post Eastern »

G would be in our top 10 "Cult Heros" over the past 40 years !!

1. Harvs

2. Plugger

3. Carl

4. Barks

5. Cowboy

6. G

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Post: # 449379Post StPeter »

George Young played mainly on the half forward flank. Bill Young was our full forward in the 1950s and won the goal kicking for the league with around 54 goals I think.
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Post: # 449384Post The_Dud »

he'd be up there

how many seasons did he play at full back tho? probably could have kicked another hundred goals for us


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Post: # 449430Post strauchanie »

Oh When the Saints wrote:Plugger and Mohr are easily the best full-forwards we've had ...

Gehrig was good, but Mohr kicked 750-odd in under 200 games, and so did Plugger.
True, but since 2003 (when G was made a permanent FF) he averaged 3.4 goals a match for the last 5 years. In this day and age that is about as good as you're gonna get from a FF, i think only Lloyd may have done better in that time.


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