Buddy Franklin !!

[Oh When the Saints]

Alright.

But Garry Ablett, Matthew Richardson, Jason Heatley and Sticks Kernahan among others played up the ground a bit, and all kicked significantly more goals than Franklin in their first 50 games.

[satchmo]

After 55 matches, this is the list for the number of goals kicked in AFL/VFL history.

Franklin is a good player, but there have been dozens who have been more promising at that stage of their career.

Gls Player

143 Scott, Mark

122 Franklin, Lance

He's certainly no Mark Scott !

[wildgoose]

Some people saying he's not a super star, do they have rocks in there head? 7 goals, a couple from outside 50, steps up when the pressure is on, a matchwinner. He is a dead set gun, Id love to have someone like him in the team, who can win a match of there own boot.

[satchmo]

Some people saying he's not a super star, do they have rocks in there head? 7 goals, a couple from outside 50, steps up when the pressure is on, a matchwinner. He is a dead set gun, Id love to have someone like him in the team, who can win a match of there own boot.

Kicked 2 - 11 last week, so not sure that he's there yet as far as pressure is concerned, but no doubt he's well on the way to being a star.

[ausfatcat]

one game every four weeks doesn't make him a superstar. Will get there but too erratic for now, has a good game, it goes to his head and disappears for several weeks, thats buddy franklin right now.

[True Blue Sainter]

Some people saying he's not a super star, do they have rocks in there head? 7 goals, a couple from outside 50, steps up when the pressure is on, a matchwinner. He is a dead set gun, Id love to have someone like him in the team, who can win a match of there own boot.

Kicked 2 - 11 last week, so not sure that he's there yet as far as pressure is concerned, but no doubt he's well on the way to being a star.

As far as pressure is concerned? Can't get much more pressure than a goal from a tough angle, outside 50 at the 28 minute mark of the last quarter to put your side back in front in an elimination final?

[woooosaints]

he is a still a twat if riewoldt or kosi had that attitude id ask them to be traded.

Yes good comment. G looked interested in all games did he. Open both eyes or have you had one removed.

I hope people saying how good Franklin is are not the ones saying hopeless he was before we played them. Lets get this right. He is great already and will be a superstar in the future.

itsa not the on field attitude all forwards would get annoyed if the ball wasnt delivered in. i think its just his philosophies that he can win a game of his own boot hes a joke

[satchmo]

Kicked 2 - 11 last week, so not sure that he's there yet as far as pressure is concerned, but no doubt he's well on the way to being a star.

As far as pressure is concerned? Can't get much more pressure than a goal from a tough angle, outside 50 at the 28 minute mark of the last quarter to put your side back in front in an elimination final?

Gotta kick the easy ones as well !

2-11 suggests that there was some sort of pressure on him ?

Doing consistantly earns him the superstar tag, meanwhile he's just a mere star.

Let's see if he can back it up.

[bigred]

Wont get a kick next week.

And that sums up where he is at.

Inconsistant.

At best he is brilliant. At his worst he is worst than Gehrig on an off day.

I dont rate him at all because of it.

[satchmo]

Wont get a kick next week.

And that sums up where he is at.

Inconsistant.

At best he is brilliant. At his worst he is worst than Gehrig on an off day.

I dont rate him at all because of it.

Still a pup though, red, so plenty of time to straighten it out.

[golden hawk]

yes was an awesome game had my heart in my mouth with 10 sec's to go with his last kick

the crowd erupted cause we knew we had won it !

[plugger66]

Less goals than Lloyd at the same point in his career.

About 50 less goals than Lockett after the same number of games.

70 less goals than Ablett after the same number of games.


A little bit of perspective ....


Won't ever be as good as Lockett, but if he keeps his head right, he will be remembered as a star like Ablett IMO.

He's an arrogant little prick and I can't stand him, but he can play football.



But he ain't a superstar ... he's got three All-Australian selections, 3 B&F's, an AFLPA MVP and a top 5 finish in the Brownlow before he's even as good as Riewoldt.

How many people kick goals like they did back in pluggers day. No point in comparing back then. Go by the goals kicked now. He has the most. He is also 20. He will be a superstar. Half the people who follow the Saints think Sam Gilbert will be what would they say about Franklin if he played with the Saints.

[Oh When the Saints]

What about Heatley? Had more goals to this point in his career, and arguably played in a more talented forward line?

The point is that there are plently of blokes who looked like they were going to dominate after 50 games and ended up as just good players ... nothing special.

[bigcarl]

Wont get a kick next week.

And that sums up where he is at.

Inconsistant.

At best he is brilliant. At his worst he is worst than Gehrig on an off day.

I dont rate him at all because of it.

even plugger was inconsistent at 20 and i rate him as the benchmark.

superstars kick them when it counts and franklin's effort yesterday ... seven goals in his first final, including the match-winner ... mark him as the game's next superstar

[stinger]

Wont get a kick next week.

And that sums up where he is at.

Inconsistant.

At best he is brilliant. At his worst he is worst than Gehrig on an off day.

I dont rate him at all because of it.

even plugger was inconsistent at 20 and i rate him as the benchmark.

superstars kick them when it counts and franklin's effort yesterday ... seven goals in his first final, including the match-winner ... mark him as the game's next superstar

well...he was impressive yesterday...stepped up to the plate when needed.....and he has done it before.....

[ausfatcat]

but doesn't do it consistantly yet....


If he gets it consistantly then he will be a superstar but he's not there yet.

[plugger66]

What about Heatley? Had more goals to this point in his career, and arguably played in a more talented forward line?

The point is that there are plently of blokes who looked like they were going to dominate after 50 games and ended up as just good players ... nothing special.

10 years ago. Players used to kick 100 back then. Now 70 is the new 100. Do you rwally think he will just be a good player. By the way Heaters was about 24 back then Franklin is 20.

[Spinner]

After 55 matches, this is the list for the number of goals kicked in AFL/VFL history.

Franklin is a good player, but there have been dozens who have been more promising at that stage of their career.

Gls Player
--------------------------
302 Hudson, Peter
288 Coleman, John
251 Moloney, George M.
232 Modra, Tony
221 Murray, Sel
218 Fanning, Fred
216 Margitich, George
214 White, Lindsay
213 Jackson, Mark
209 Roach, Michael
201 Moriarty, Jack
200 Sumich, Peter
200 Taylor, Brian
199 Beasley, Simon
194 Minton-Connell, Simon
192 Todd, Ron
192 Wood, Bill L.
190 Goninon, George
190 Wade, Doug
189 Curtin, Claude
188 Mohr, Bill
187 Reynolds, Tom
185 Capper, Warwick
185 Evans, Ron B.
183 Lockett, Tony
183 Davie, Harry
181 Ablett senior, Gary
180 Spencer, Jock
180 Bennett, Darren
180 McKenna, Peter
180 Dunstall, Jason
177 Merrick, Bob
177 Young, Bill D.
177 Metherell, Jack
177 Morrison, Alby
174 Clover, Horrie
174 Rocca, Saverio
173 Johnson, Ted E.
172 Strang, Doug
172 Donohue, Larry
171 Hart, Eddie
168 Richardson, Matthew
166 Rankin, Cliff
165 Pratt, H. Bob
165 Smith, Norm W.
164 Hyde, Bert
163 Templeton, Kelvin
161 Lee, Dick
153 Freake, Jimmy
152 Longmire, John
152 Heatley, Jason
151 Schmidt, Paul
151 Allen, Les
149 Kernahan, Stephen
147 Beecroft, Bob
147 Shelton, Jack F.
146 Johnson, Bob C.
146 Bennett, Peter J.
145 Baggott, Ron
145 Fothergill, Des
145 Dummett, Bob
144 Salmon, Paul
143 Forbes, Keith
143 Carroll, Tom
143 Moncrieff, Michael
143 Scott, Mark
142 Freyer, Ted
142 Lane, Gordon
142 Lloyd, Matthew J.
142 Moore, Roy
141 Park, Roy
139 Harris, Dick D.
139 Searl, Doug
139 Watts, Ray
138 Martini, Percy
137 Pannam, Alby C.
135 Robertson, Austin P.
135 Lindner, Bruce
134 Wheildon, Darren
133 Del-Re, Danny
133 Titus, Jack
132 Cummings, Scott
131 Vallence, Harry
131 McLean, Ricky
130 Coventry, Gordon
128 Bosustow, Peter
128 Wooller, Fred
128 Balme, Neil
128 Graham, Ian L.
127 Judge, Ken
125 Carman, Phil
125 Jesaulenko, Alex
125 Daniher, Terry
125 Brewer, Ian
124 Sartori, Peter
124 Bayliss, George
124 Young, Garry
123 Baggott, Jack
123 Prior, Albert
122 Crisp, Mickey
122 Franklin, Lance

That is one of the most useless stats I have ever read.


Absolute Rubbish.


Pitty the bloke can do what Reiwoldt cant only just after 55 games.

What a STAR.

[maverick]

Buddy's test will come next year, 15 other clubs will study his year, look for weaknesses and give him a little more respect.

If he is just as dominant as this year, then hats off he has arrived.

Roo has been doing it for four years now, part of being a superstar or champion is longevity. Buddy has potential, loads of it, but he has to back it up.

I remember Adrian McAdam, anyone else remember this one season wonder? How many at the time wondered what he would become.

[The_Dud]

um, if ur comparing Franklin's kick too riewoldts against the dogs than u TRULY know nothing about football....

and to those saying kicking 7 in a final makes u a superstar, a certain J Farmer kicked 8 in a final a couple of years ago, anyone willing to stand up and say hes a super star?

didn't think so

[Spinner]

Buddy's test will come next year, 15 other clubs will study his year, look for weaknesses and give him a little more respect.

If he is just as dominant as this year, then hats off he has arrived.

Roo has been doing it for four years now, part of being a superstar or champion is longevity. Buddy has potential, loads of it, but he has to back it up.

I remember Adrian McAdam, anyone else remember this one season wonder? How many at the time wondered what he would become.

Franklin has been getting the best defender each week this season. How much more respect is needed?

Massie played on both Riewoldt and Franklin for their respective game...one kicked 7 goals.

What Buddy did yesterday ie WIN GAMES you will rarely see Riewoldt do.

[The_Dud]

Buddy's test will come next year, 15 other clubs will study his year, look for weaknesses and give him a little more respect.

If he is just as dominant as this year, then hats off he has arrived.

Roo has been doing it for four years now, part of being a superstar or champion is longevity. Buddy has potential, loads of it, but he has to back it up.

I remember Adrian McAdam, anyone else remember this one season wonder? How many at the time wondered what he would become.

Franklin has been getting the best defender each week this season. How much more respect is needed?

Massie played on both Riewoldt and Franklin for their respective game...one kicked 7 goals.

What Buddy did yesterday ie WIN GAMES you will rarely see Riewoldt do.

u are showing your lack of knowledge of football more and more with every post ....

[Spinner]

um, if ur comparing Franklin's kick too riewoldts against the dogs than u TRULY know nothing about football....

and to those saying kicking 7 in a final makes u a superstar, a certain J Farmer kicked 8 in a final a couple of years ago, anyone willing to stand up and say hes a super star?

didn't think so

Im comparing Frankins kick to any of Riewoldts throughout his entire career.

Riewoldt struggles 15m directly in front.

Give Franklin 3 more years and you will see.

[The_Dud]

um, if ur comparing Franklin's kick too riewoldts against the dogs than u TRULY know nothing about football....

and to those saying kicking 7 in a final makes u a superstar, a certain J Farmer kicked 8 in a final a couple of years ago, anyone willing to stand up and say hes a super star?

didn't think so

Im comparing Frankins kick to any of Riewoldts throughout his entire career.

Riewoldt struggles 15m directly in front.

Give Franklin 3 more years and you will see.

2.11 anyone......

[Spinner]

Buddy's test will come next year, 15 other clubs will study his year, look for weaknesses and give him a little more respect.

If he is just as dominant as this year, then hats off he has arrived.

Roo has been doing it for four years now, part of being a superstar or champion is longevity. Buddy has potential, loads of it, but he has to back it up.

I remember Adrian McAdam, anyone else remember this one season wonder? How many at the time wondered what he would become.

Franklin has been getting the best defender each week this season. How much more respect is needed?

Massie played on both Riewoldt and Franklin for their respective game...one kicked 7 goals.

What Buddy did yesterday ie WIN GAMES you will rarely see Riewoldt do.

u are showing your lack of knowledge of football more and more with every post ....

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