Because normally a second rate ruckman at another club = A first rate ruckman at stkildacwrcyn wrote:Why is it that so many people get excited about second-rate ruckmen from other clubs?
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but when one of the best ruckmen in the league now, Hamish McIntosh gets picked just behind pick 6 then that hurtsSaints43 wrote:The Brooks trade needs to be put into context.
We used picks (not the exact ones I don't think - definitely 6) traded for Peter Everitt. This trade not only got rid of the dreadlocked anchor it freed up (reportedly) somewhere between 10-20% of our TPP.
That money would have been used to pay future/up & coming players.
We only had pick six because we traded for it... had #10 quit the game, we never hear of #24 and life would be no different.
Bad trade but not the end of the world...
Brooks has talent....BUT not mental applicaton.Saint Corin wrote:The brooks trade has hardly crippled the club, mistakes are made and hopefuly the one thing we get out of it is learning not to let it happen again. Would be highly amusing if brooks came through after all of this though.
Wood yes, but not and that gret a cost.
TimeToShineFellas wrote:Didn't GT give him "time off" in 2004 to get his head right?saintsRrising wrote:IF they can get his head right....or perhaps rather if Brooks can mentally mature
Only been at the Kangaroos since 2005.Dan Warna wrote:hamish macintosh played about a dozen games for 4 seasons before getting his break in 07
i think of those dozen games most were on the pine and l think about 20 possessions...across the dozen games.
if he was at st kilda they'd be calling for him to be delisted for everyone of those 4 years.
No way somehow we have to play all 38 of ouir listed players every week in the seniors and they all must dominate and play 200+ games.saint66au wrote:Just as well that the other 15 Clubs have perfect recruiting records and St Kilda are the only ones who make trading mistakes![]()
Build a bridge people, EVERY CLub has a story to tell like this..as well as Sam Fisher-type good luck stories too
You love bring up McIntosh but havent the club decided Brooks is a forward not a ruckman. Please give me a name of a forward who has been at a club for 6 years and played 8 games. Also if you must use McIntosh it is completely different to Brooks. One has improved gradually the other has shown no improvement over the years and that is not me saying that it is 2 coaches who have played him 3 times in 2 years.Dan Warna wrote:then how could we have got him the same draft we traded for brooks![]()
he was drafted in the 2002 draft, meaning his first year was 2003...
his first game was in 2005
he played 17 games in 2006, at 10 disposals a game (rix like?) and about 7 hitouts a game.
he doubled his possessions and trippled his hitouts in 07, from his 06 form.
so all up 16 games coming into 07 with stats that would make blake or rix cringe.
prior to 2007 he was available for selection in 03, 04, 05, and 06. for a game total of 18 games. worst injury he had was a sprained ankle.
he is 6 months younger than Brooks.
One hasnt had a knee reco. Also if Brooks played and had the same numbers and output as other back up foward ruckmen people continually hope we chase a lot on here would still want him dumped.plugger66 wrote:You love bring up McIntosh but havent the club decided Brooks is a forward not a ruckman. Please give me a name of a forward who has been at a club for 6 years and played 8 games. Also if you must use McIntosh it is completely different to Brooks. One has improved gradually the other has shown no improvement over the years and that is not me saying that it is 2 coaches who have played him 3 times in 2 years.Dan Warna wrote:then how could we have got him the same draft we traded for brooks![]()
he was drafted in the 2002 draft, meaning his first year was 2003...
his first game was in 2005
he played 17 games in 2006, at 10 disposals a game (rix like?) and about 7 hitouts a game.
he doubled his possessions and trippled his hitouts in 07, from his 06 form.
so all up 16 games coming into 07 with stats that would make blake or rix cringe.
prior to 2007 he was available for selection in 03, 04, 05, and 06. for a game total of 18 games. worst injury he had was a sprained ankle.
he is 6 months younger than Brooks.
The reco was 5 years ago. That hasnt stopped him playing 3 games in 2 years. And I agree some of the back up ruckmen people suggest on here are nearly as bad as Brooks.CURLY wrote:One hasnt had a knee reco. Also if Brooks played and had the same numbers and output as other back up foward ruckmen people continually hope we chase a lot on here would still want him dumped.plugger66 wrote:You love bring up McIntosh but havent the club decided Brooks is a forward not a ruckman. Please give me a name of a forward who has been at a club for 6 years and played 8 games. Also if you must use McIntosh it is completely different to Brooks. One has improved gradually the other has shown no improvement over the years and that is not me saying that it is 2 coaches who have played him 3 times in 2 years.Dan Warna wrote:then how could we have got him the same draft we traded for brooks![]()
he was drafted in the 2002 draft, meaning his first year was 2003...
his first game was in 2005
he played 17 games in 2006, at 10 disposals a game (rix like?) and about 7 hitouts a game.
he doubled his possessions and trippled his hitouts in 07, from his 06 form.
so all up 16 games coming into 07 with stats that would make blake or rix cringe.
prior to 2007 he was available for selection in 03, 04, 05, and 06. for a game total of 18 games. worst injury he had was a sprained ankle.
he is 6 months younger than Brooks.