James Gwilt

yipper · Post: # 593545Post **yipper** » Tue 24 Jun 2008 3:17pm

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:just on sandilands how wastful are freo having this tapout monster and not dominating the clearances ? if we had sandilands in 2004 to 2006 we would of won two flags at least

The point I was making before - is that I don't think Sandilands is much chop for Freo. Yes, he is big. Yes he wins all the hitouts - every week!!

But he lumbers around the ground like a giraffe, can't take a mark to save himself, can't kick, doesn't seem to be able to read the play that well. Hence he never gets to the right spots when they need him. I think he is actually hindering Freo's chances in my most humble opinion.

Stack him up against say a David Hille from Essendon, who's actually playing some good footy at present - who would you take? Hille is damaging when he gets the pill - Big Giraffe is not. Dean Cox is another - would get beaten for the hitouts by Sandilands - but would kill him around the ground and be a far more damaging player on the day. And usually is!! Ben Hudson from the Doggies would be BOG playing on Sandilands - even though he wouldn't win one single hitout!! I think Freo should re-assess there midfield structure and look at a trade for the Giraffe.

stinger · Post: # 593549Post **stinger** » Tue 24 Jun 2008 3:21pm

the boy's doing okay

Dan Warna · Post: # 593554Post **Dan Warna** » Tue 24 Jun 2008 3:30pm

yipper wrote: Sandilands - even though he wouldn't win one single hitout!! I think Freo should re-assess there midfield structure and look at a trade for the Giraffe.

if he was close to 30, we'd be looking at him

yipper · Post: # 593559Post **yipper** » Tue 24 Jun 2008 3:34pm

Dan Warna wrote:
yipper wrote: Sandilands - even though he wouldn't win one single hitout!! I think Freo should re-assess there midfield structure and look at a trade for the Giraffe.
if he was close to 30, we'd be looking at him

You're scaring me Dan...

Armoooo · Post: # 593678Post **Armoooo** » Tue 24 Jun 2008 6:51pm

yipper wrote:
st_Trav_ofWA wrote:just on sandilands how wastful are freo having this tapout monster and not dominating the clearances ? if we had sandilands in 2004 to 2006 we would of won two flags at least
The point I was making before - is that I don't think Sandilands is much chop for Freo. Yes, he is big. Yes he wins all the hitouts - every week!!

But he lumbers around the ground like a giraffe, can't take a mark to save himself, can't kick, doesn't seem to be able to read the play that well. Hence he never gets to the right spots when they need him. I think he is actually hindering Freo's chances in my most humble opinion.

Stack him up against say a David Hille from Essendon, who's actually playing some good footy at present - who would you take? Hille is damaging when he gets the pill - Big Giraffe is not. Dean Cox is another - would get beaten for the hitouts by Sandilands - but would kill him around the ground and be a far more damaging player on the day. And usually is!! Ben Hudson from the Doggies would be BOG playing on Sandilands - even though he wouldn't win one single hitout!! I think Freo should re-assess there midfield structure and look at a trade for the
Giraffe.

I agree, they should tank to try and finish last, trade Sandilands for a top 10 pick and then they could pick up Natuni and be able to get a gun mid with their other top 10 pick. Natuni and Warnock would easily be the premier ruck combo in a few years time, add in a midfield consisting of Palmer, Ibbotson and another top 10 draft pick they would have a pretty good looking centre...

santazzi · Post: # 593733Post **santazzi** » Tue 24 Jun 2008 7:57pm

Who is Natuni? And what is the guarantee they will be able to pick him up before some other team does???

Teflon · Post: # 594315Post **Teflon** » Wed 25 Jun 2008 11:21pm

Must say I havent been a huge fan of Gwilts but his last couple of games he has shown greater composure with the footy down back and he does have the size......IF we can engineer some mongrel and a bit more intesnity he may just have a spot.

I hope for his and our clubs sake he keeps taking his chances and builds his confidence.

Kudos again for Lyon in at least attemtping to find out.

iwantmeseats · Wed 25 Jun 2008 11:31pm

Decision making is also suss, but can be improved.

iwantmeseats · Wed 25 Jun 2008 11:32pm

Or maybe I should say, decision making is a little slow. Does show some improvement though, compared to the last time he got a run.

Teflon · Post: # 594322Post **Teflon** » Wed 25 Jun 2008 11:36pm

iwantmeseats wrote:Or maybe I should say, decision making is a little slow. Does show some improvement though, compared to the last time he got a run.

do you reckon its the coaching bringing out his best?

iwantmeseats · Wed 25 Jun 2008 11:37pm

Teflon wrote:
iwantmeseats wrote:Or maybe I should say, decision making is a little slow. Does show some improvement though, compared to the last time he got a run.
do you reckon its the coaching bringing out his best?

hehe, errr....I probably shouldnt answer that. Im apparently getting too negative on poor ol RL.

maverick · Post: # 594327Post **maverick** » Wed 25 Jun 2008 11:38pm

Teflon wrote:
iwantmeseats wrote:Or maybe I should say, decision making is a little slow. Does show some improvement though, compared to the last time he got a run.
do you reckon its the coaching bringing out his best?

Ahh, so he's the one

Teflon · Post: # 594328Post **Teflon** » Wed 25 Jun 2008 11:40pm

maverick wrote:
Teflon wrote:
iwantmeseats wrote:Or maybe I should say, decision making is a little slow. Does show some improvement though, compared to the last time he got a run.
do you reckon its the coaching bringing out his best?
Ahh, so he's the one

no. but i was intrigued by the responses. its like fishing....or shooting them in a barrel...

maverick · Post: # 594330Post **maverick** » Wed 25 Jun 2008 11:43pm

Teflon wrote:
maverick wrote:
Teflon wrote:
iwantmeseats wrote:Or maybe I should say, decision making is a little slow. Does show some improvement though, compared to the last time he got a run.
do you reckon its the coaching bringing out his best?
Ahh, so he's the one
no. but i was intrigued by the responses. its like fishing....or shooting them in a barrel...

Touche'

iwantmeseats · Wed 25 Jun 2008 11:44pm

I dont think Gwilts problems, real or not, are caused by RL. Obviously fishing, Teflon.

I reckon he deserves more games, lets see how he goes.

Still have fond memories of his stellar game in the 05 final V ADL. Bit ahh, that was 3 years ago now.

He also isnt coming of a base in the VFL like nearly all other players. I think he was plucked directly from Noble Park? That in mind, you have to think he is going to develop a little slower and so far is doing alright.

saintsRrising · Thu 26 Jun 2008 1:21am

Dan Warna wrote:
yipper wrote: Sandilands - even though he wouldn't win one single hitout!! I think Freo should re-assess there midfield structure and look at a trade for the Giraffe.
if he was close to 30, we'd be looking at him

RL has taken 5 perhaps 6 ruckmen so far. 7 if you count the NSW rookie ruckmen who is a giant.

Yes three were older...as we had bugga all in terms of ruck stocks

3/4 were kids though in McEvoy (who looks the goods), Van Reahan, Khan....and the NSW Rookie

Of the 3 older ones...Clarke was only ever meant to be a one year back up fora cheap PSD pick.

King was basically free.

So all in all why is RL knocked about ruckmen???

King and Gardi have both shown the goods.

Ruckmen tend to be injury prone...so with McEvoy, King and Gardiner we should be well served for at least another two years after this.....with McEvoy then ready to hit his straps.

Back to Gwilt...shows promise...but needs to play smarter and use the ball better. Hopefelly this will come with experience and game time.

And M Gardiner was only half a pick 43....