Forward for Saints 09
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- Con Gorozidis
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Forward for Saints 09
Given the Fergus Watts debacle. I know I should not be bringing it up again.
But whare do the saints stand on a new key forward now G train is finished? I am concerned about our lack of goal power. Milney & Riewoldt are our only goal kickers. Look at what Aker and Scotty Welsh have bought for the dogs. So it doesnt have to be a tall. Just a goal kicker. 30-40 a season type.
I though we should go after Timmy Boyle from the Hawks? Im just not sure what we have to trade with?
Note the top 10 Goalkickers this year
Lance Franklin
Brendan Fevola
Matthew Pavlich
Daniel Bradshaw
Jonathan Brown
Jarryd Roughead
Paul Medhurst
Daniel Motlop
Jason Akermanis
Matthew Richardson
But whare do the saints stand on a new key forward now G train is finished? I am concerned about our lack of goal power. Milney & Riewoldt are our only goal kickers. Look at what Aker and Scotty Welsh have bought for the dogs. So it doesnt have to be a tall. Just a goal kicker. 30-40 a season type.
I though we should go after Timmy Boyle from the Hawks? Im just not sure what we have to trade with?
Note the top 10 Goalkickers this year
Lance Franklin
Brendan Fevola
Matthew Pavlich
Daniel Bradshaw
Jonathan Brown
Jarryd Roughead
Paul Medhurst
Daniel Motlop
Jason Akermanis
Matthew Richardson
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Agree, Schneider is the man to ad a few more. But gee, having a proper spearhead would be nice.
Get the backline fixed and you free up players like BJ etc. Maybe Goose next year?
Get the backline fixed and you free up players like BJ etc. Maybe Goose next year?
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Isn't the main area of concern for 09' full back?
It's more likely than not that this would be Max's last year and i'm not convinced that we have a replacement waiting. Chips is better as a HB as is Gilbert. Also, Goose is on the road back from another injury so we can't rely on him. Jason Blake is doing well on the 2nd tall forward of opposition teams at the minute but isn't good enough to take the number 1 forward from the opposition. Gwilt is still trying to make the grade.
We have enough options up forward to be fine for 09'...down back is more of a concern.
It's more likely than not that this would be Max's last year and i'm not convinced that we have a replacement waiting. Chips is better as a HB as is Gilbert. Also, Goose is on the road back from another injury so we can't rely on him. Jason Blake is doing well on the 2nd tall forward of opposition teams at the minute but isn't good enough to take the number 1 forward from the opposition. Gwilt is still trying to make the grade.
We have enough options up forward to be fine for 09'...down back is more of a concern.
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i hope that list is a joke?ausfatcat wrote:About the least worried section of the club is the forward line at the moment.
Coming through as Fwd's or options as forwards, McEvoy, Kosi, Allen, Schneider, Goddard, Stevens ect ect
Would be more worried about the Backline and then the midfield before the forward line.
how many goals has mcevoy kicked in his life? goddard is not a forward. never has been. steven has 0 AFL games to his name. Kosi is... well... Kosi... Schenider needs to just get a kick.
I mean there is a difference between optimism and being positive and complete delusion. look at that top 10 list again and tell me the saints look like getting someone in it any time soon unless we trade for someone.
id take fev anyday but no way he will leave carlton.
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Timmy Boyle all the way, good player, we should try and get him for a third rounder if possible, maybe second if we have to but no more.
He could kick a good 20-30 goals a year and take a bit of attention away from Roo as well as provide a target when both Roo and Kosi are elsewhere.
He could kick a good 20-30 goals a year and take a bit of attention away from Roo as well as provide a target when both Roo and Kosi are elsewhere.
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Con Gorozidis wrote:i hope that list is a joke?ausfatcat wrote:About the least worried section of the club is the forward line at the moment.
Coming through as Fwd's or options as forwards, McEvoy, Kosi, Allen, Schneider, Goddard, Stevens ect ect
Would be more worried about the Backline and then the midfield before the forward line.
how many goals has mcevoy kicked in his life? goddard is not a forward. never has been. steven has 0 AFL games to his name. Kosi is... well... Kosi... Schenider needs to just get a kick.
I mean there is a difference between optimism and being positive and complete delusion. look at that top 10 list again and tell me the saints look like getting someone in it any time soon unless we trade for someone.
id take fev anyday but no way he will leave carlton.
but there coming through is the point, some wont make it some will, no need to throw away a lot picks and money in a area that I believe is probably our best depth/development area, when the midfield and backline need more attention.
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We just keep recruiting midfielders...and when we have enough midfielders we recruit some more. A side with a gun midfield will kick enough goals.
West Coast premiers 06....they had nothing.
Cam Mooney kicked 70 odd last year and the thug is a complete dud. A good midfield will make an average forward a good one.
Forget about Fev,the bloke is a joke.
West Coast premiers 06....they had nothing.
Cam Mooney kicked 70 odd last year and the thug is a complete dud. A good midfield will make an average forward a good one.
Forget about Fev,the bloke is a joke.
Bring back the Lockett era
I've been worried about this for the last few years. Not neccessarily so short of forwards but we lack a dominant FF. Kosi has shown he is better when allowed to roam and ruck.
Not that he is the answer to this but I liked the look of Ferguson from what I saw. A strong mark.
Not that he is the answer to this but I liked the look of Ferguson from what I saw. A strong mark.
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some truth to that. I still dont rate Mooney.jonesy wrote:We just keep recruiting midfielders...and when we have enough midfielders we recruit some more. A side with a gun midfield will kick enough goals.
West Coast premiers 06....they had nothing.
Cam Mooney kicked 70 odd last year and the thug is a complete dud. A good midfield will make an average forward a good one.
Forget about Fev,the bloke is a joke.
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Nooo way... He really battles, had one good year but the side was struggling will never have another good year....Armoooo wrote:Timmy Boyle all the way, good player, we should try and get him for a third rounder if possible, maybe second if we have to but no more.
He could kick a good 20-30 goals a year and take a bit of attention away from Roo as well as provide a target when both Roo and Kosi are elsewhere.
anyone notice anything about the top 10 goal kickers on the list?
only one of them is from a team in the top 2.
and even that player is a wingman.
a few years ago we had FG/Riewoldt and Milne amongst the top goal scorers in the land.
and we didn't win a premiership.
I think we need at least a decoy FF, like lynch, who can sit the goal square and contribute his 50 to 60 goals a year, but the coach don't see it like that.
our forwards are on the wing, our FP gets 5 of his 15 possessions in the d50, and the HFF are cruising teh backlines.
so be it, as long as we win.
as for cameron mooney, he's pretty much a decoy FF, for Geelongs midfield a la brisbane 01-04.
Lynch just sat in teh goal square, rarely ventured outside the F50, and the midfield rained goals.
now the midfield is less talented, luke power and simon black, are pretty much all thats left from akers, voss, lappin, johnson, et al. so the team has adapted to the talent thats available with JB playing up the ground, and bradshaw (when not injured) as the decoy FF.
heck it worked for carlton and North, with Sticks and Carey, with the likes pearce and longmire sitting in teh goal square or the bench.
only one of them is from a team in the top 2.
and even that player is a wingman.
a few years ago we had FG/Riewoldt and Milne amongst the top goal scorers in the land.
and we didn't win a premiership.
I think we need at least a decoy FF, like lynch, who can sit the goal square and contribute his 50 to 60 goals a year, but the coach don't see it like that.
our forwards are on the wing, our FP gets 5 of his 15 possessions in the d50, and the HFF are cruising teh backlines.
so be it, as long as we win.
as for cameron mooney, he's pretty much a decoy FF, for Geelongs midfield a la brisbane 01-04.
Lynch just sat in teh goal square, rarely ventured outside the F50, and the midfield rained goals.
now the midfield is less talented, luke power and simon black, are pretty much all thats left from akers, voss, lappin, johnson, et al. so the team has adapted to the talent thats available with JB playing up the ground, and bradshaw (when not injured) as the decoy FF.
heck it worked for carlton and North, with Sticks and Carey, with the likes pearce and longmire sitting in teh goal square or the bench.
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Justin Plapp is better than Mooneyplugger66 wrote:Mooney is a decoy and kicked 70 goals last year and also a dud. Where do we get these decoys and duds. Another underating of other players and overating ours.
I think if we did get Boyle though we would have a real decoy and dud.
Bring back the Lockett era
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