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Will be let go by Melbourne, but White wants to play for another couple of years at AFL level.
Worth picking up?
Great around-the-ground ruckman and still does pretty well in the hitouts. Can play forward too.
Not sure re: our list .... would mean getting rid of Gardiner I would think, as otherwise we would have too many ruckmen.
Carlton, Richmond might also be interested for a couple of years.
Thoughts?
Jeff White?
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Would only suit a team that wants to top up for a tilt... so we'll probably get him.. He is fit, that's for sure, and I'd swap him for MG in a split second.
BAck up ruckman only, provided he is still mobile enough.
Would give you more than Rix.
BAck up ruckman only, provided he is still mobile enough.
Would give you more than Rix.
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If that is our thinking Wayne.....of topping up for a tilt....then heaven help us. We are doomed.WayneJudson42 wrote:Would only suit a team that wants to top up for a tilt... so we'll probably get him.. He is fit, that's for sure, and I'd swap him for MG in a split second.
BAck up ruckman only, provided he is still mobile enough.
Would give you more than Rix.
But then again, we seem to be becoming a retirement home for ageing ruckman, so he'll probably fit in well.
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We don't have a lot of luck with big guys do we? Peter Everitt is the only stand out in the last 20 years if you ask me. From memory anyway. Lazer probably might make my list too. No co-incidence both played in 1997.
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We don't have a lot of luck with big guys do we? Peter Everitt is the only stand out in the last 20 years if you ask me. From memory anyway. Lazer probably might make my list too. No co-incidence both played in 1997.
My favourite is the inspired recruiting of Matthew Clarke. Didn't he just make that number 28 jumper pump?
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I think Jeff White is well and truly finished.
No value for us at all.
Hopefully King can go another year. Without him Mcevoy might struggle. I think Ben needs another year before he really steps up to the plate with King guiding him and carrying the bulk of the load would be ideal.
I'm not confident MG can go another year.
No value for us at all.
Hopefully King can go another year. Without him Mcevoy might struggle. I think Ben needs another year before he really steps up to the plate with King guiding him and carrying the bulk of the load would be ideal.
I'm not confident MG can go another year.
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It probably boils down to a simple question: who has more to give, Michael Gardiner or Jeff White? We probably can't have both...
I'd probably be leaning toward White at this stage, but he'll be 32 at the start of next year.
He's also got 266 games under his belt, whereas Gardiner is 29 and has only 135 on the clock. So the wear and tear on the latter should be a lot less. Though having said that, White is making all the right noises about his body and his durability since his shin troubles is unquestionable.
If White said he had two-three years in him, which is probably Gardiner's maximum shelf life, he wouldn't be a bad option while we fill in time before McEvoy is ready. If Gardiner can't get himself right, which might well be the case, I'd think it would be a reasonable change.
As we've seen this year with Steven King, the ruck position can succesfully be filled with a 'drop-in' recuit. You just need to make sure they have a few years left - not just one, as in the case of Matthew Clarke.
I'd probably be leaning toward White at this stage, but he'll be 32 at the start of next year.
He's also got 266 games under his belt, whereas Gardiner is 29 and has only 135 on the clock. So the wear and tear on the latter should be a lot less. Though having said that, White is making all the right noises about his body and his durability since his shin troubles is unquestionable.
If White said he had two-three years in him, which is probably Gardiner's maximum shelf life, he wouldn't be a bad option while we fill in time before McEvoy is ready. If Gardiner can't get himself right, which might well be the case, I'd think it would be a reasonable change.
As we've seen this year with Steven King, the ruck position can succesfully be filled with a 'drop-in' recuit. You just need to make sure they have a few years left - not just one, as in the case of Matthew Clarke.
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White is so bad. So bad. Most frustrating footballer ever. Makes me tear me hair out and I dont care one iota about the Demons. If he played for us he might drive me over the edge.
He prances around like a big pony taking a leisurely canter on his grandmas village green waiting for the scones and tea to be served. he has an uncanny ability to run to where the ball aint. No intensity. No competitiveness. No mongrel. No thanks.
id hate him in our side. good in theory (assuming VR and Mcevoy are not duds) but bad in practice.
He prances around like a big pony taking a leisurely canter on his grandmas village green waiting for the scones and tea to be served. he has an uncanny ability to run to where the ball aint. No intensity. No competitiveness. No mongrel. No thanks.
id hate him in our side. good in theory (assuming VR and Mcevoy are not duds) but bad in practice.
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Not a bad point actually. Jeff White or Michael Rix?mad saint guy wrote:White in the ruck is an improved version of Blake (but without the versatility. If we could get him cheap and it meant Rix was delisted then I wouldn't have a problem with recruiting White. He's very good around the ground and can still be competitive with most in the ruck contests.
Does the question even need to be asked?
Yeah, the more I think about it, and the more one considers the absence of quality ruckmen out there, he appeals quite a bit.
That way we can keep developing McEvoy, and either keep developing Van Rheenan or move him on for another raw ruck rookie.
Ruck stocks for 2009:
In: White
Out: Gardiner, Rix
That would mean King and White were first choice, with the back-ups coming from McEvoy, Blake, Kosi and Van Rheenan/another youngster. Could be worse.
That would ensure McEvoy gained plenty of game time and developed, while King and White would be a more than capable ruck duo. And I like that White can go forward, something Gardiner probably can't do.
Worth pondering.
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Paul Harding - was he the short guy with the mo that went to the eagles?
he was really bloody good.
No to White. But i accept evertons argument that he could be a stop gap IF we are developing new ruckmen. But are we? We need to really assess McEvoy and Van Rheenan.
We should have gone for Cam Wood last year. Ruckmen are bloody hard to find. Although Melbourne seem to have 4 right now.
We need to look all over the country to see whats out there. I hope we have been looking far and wide. A 21-25 year old would be perfect. White would be the lazy mans option.
he was really bloody good.
No to White. But i accept evertons argument that he could be a stop gap IF we are developing new ruckmen. But are we? We need to really assess McEvoy and Van Rheenan.
We should have gone for Cam Wood last year. Ruckmen are bloody hard to find. Although Melbourne seem to have 4 right now.
We need to look all over the country to see whats out there. I hope we have been looking far and wide. A 21-25 year old would be perfect. White would be the lazy mans option.
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Alistair Ford.
Darren Flannigan.
Actually, Jeff White was a mad Saints supporter as a young bloke. He actually had a Saints poster on his bedroom wall when he first played for Freo! That is a true story! We nearly got him a decade back, but Melbourne breached the salary cap to pinch him from under our noses.
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Actually, Jeff White was a mad Saints supporter as a young bloke. He actually had a Saints poster on his bedroom wall when he first played for Freo! That is a true story! We nearly got him a decade back, but Melbourne breached the salary cap to pinch him from under our noses.
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he would of been great when he left the dockers but now no thanks ... maybe he will do the Bell Black thing and go back to the shockers as part of the Warnock Trade
and befor you ask i would say no to Warnock as well i wouldnt waste $1m on a back up ruckman
he would of been great when he left the dockers but now no thanks ... maybe he will do the Bell Black thing and go back to the shockers as part of the Warnock Trade
and befor you ask i would say no to Warnock as well i wouldnt waste $1m on a back up ruckman
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If he does not re-sign..
I would expect that Carlton would seek him.
They have an up and running midfield now, which will be even better next year with their young draft picks being a year older.
BUT their two young rucks are both still raw...and White would be a vast improvement on Cloke (let alone Ackland).
If the Demons are foccusing on youth they would probably be happy to trade him for a third round, maybe even fourth round pick.
I would expect that Carlton would seek him.
They have an up and running midfield now, which will be even better next year with their young draft picks being a year older.
BUT their two young rucks are both still raw...and White would be a vast improvement on Cloke (let alone Ackland).
If the Demons are foccusing on youth they would probably be happy to trade him for a third round, maybe even fourth round pick.
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