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Belvedere Park Planning Application Lodged

Post: # 681725Post casey scorp »

According to the City of Frankston web-based planning register, application no 623/2008/P was lodged yesterday by St Kilda FC c/- Contour Consultants.

The application is for:

Buildings and works for the construction of a building to be used for the purpose of a minor sports and recreation facility with an ancillary administration function.

The status of the application is "public notification".


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Post: # 681727Post saintspremiers »

So I assume there is a laminated notice up at the site?

Is the notice open for 2 weeks for objections??


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Post: # 681761Post Eastern »

Can someone take a pic of the application and post it. please !!


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Post: # 681779Post St Fidelius »

saintspremiers wrote:So I assume there is a laminated notice up at the site?

Is the notice open for 2 weeks for objections??
and what do you object to, may I ask???

That Frankston are putting in $3 Million, and that is more than what the AFL is putting in...



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State your reasons for the objections or for F*** sake shut up :idea:


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Post: # 681787Post Eastern »

St Fidelius wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:So I assume there is a laminated notice up at the site?

Is the notice open for 2 weeks for objections??
and what do you object to, may I ask???

That Frankston are putting in $3 Million, and that is more than what the AFL is putting in...



CLUE....

State your reasons for the objections or for F*** sake shut up :idea:
I think he is talking about the "legalities" of the planning process, nothing more, nothing less. But then again, I may have read this wrong, I have before :roll: :roll: !!


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casey scorp wrote:According to the City of Frankston web-based planning register, application no 623/2008/P was lodged yesterday by St Kilda FC c/- Contour Consultants.

The application is for:

Buildings and works for the construction of a building to be used for the purpose of a minor sports and recreation facility with an ancillary administration function.

The status of the application is "public notification".
Minor Sports?????

I'll rip their testicles off. :evil:

That's St Kilda they're talking about. :x


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Re: Belvedere Park Planning Application Lodged

Post: # 681803Post Eastern »

GrumpyOne wrote:
casey scorp wrote:According to the City of Frankston web-based planning register, application no 623/2008/P was lodged yesterday by St Kilda FC c/- Contour Consultants.

The application is for:

Buildings and works for the construction of a building to be used for the purpose of a minor sports and recreation facility with an ancillary administration function.

The status of the application is "public notification".
Minor Sports?????

I'll rip their testicles off. :evil:

That's St Kilda they're talking about. :x
They're the council. Are you a micro-surgeon? !!


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Post: # 681835Post FortiusQuoFidelius »

GrumpyOne wrote:
casey scorp wrote:According to the City of Frankston web-based planning register, application no 623/2008/P was lodged yesterday by St Kilda FC c/- Contour Consultants.

The application is for:

Buildings and works for the construction of a building to be used for the purpose of a minor sports and recreation facility with an ancillary administration function.

The status of the application is "public notification".
Minor Sports?????

I'll rip their testicles off. :evil:

That's St Kilda they're talking about. :x
You got more chance of that at Frankston than at Kingston Grumpy... Kingston councillors have NO BALLS AT ALL!!


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Post: # 681836Post casey scorp »

Eastern wrote:They're the council. Are you a micro-surgeon? !!
"They" are actually St Kilda FC - the applicants in this case. They have decided what they want a permit for.

Minor sports and recreation facility is “Land used for leisure, recreation, or sport, without substantial provision for spectators, and which is usually open to non-paying spectators.â€


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Post: # 681910Post saintspremiers »

Eastern wrote:
St Fidelius wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:So I assume there is a laminated notice up at the site?

Is the notice open for 2 weeks for objections??
and what do you object to, may I ask???

That Frankston are putting in $3 Million, and that is more than what the AFL is putting in...



CLUE....

State your reasons for the objections or for F*** sake shut up :idea:
I think he is talking about the "legalities" of the planning process, nothing more, nothing less. But then again, I may have read this wrong, I have before :roll: :roll: !!
Correct Eastern, nothing more, nothing less.

....mind you, I don't mind people firing up and flaming me if they see the need 8-) :)


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Post: # 682842Post casey scorp »

saintspremiers wrote:So I assume there is a laminated notice up at the site?

Is the notice open for 2 weeks for objections??

Yes, there’s a sign up on the site advising that:

• the application has been lodged
• it is available for inspection at Frankston Council offices
• objections are to be lodged with the Council
• the Council will not make a decision before 22 December.


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Post: # 683065Post saintspremiers »

casey scorp wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:So I assume there is a laminated notice up at the site?

Is the notice open for 2 weeks for objections??

Yes, there’s a sign up on the site advising that:

• the application has been lodged
• it is available for inspection at Frankston Council offices
• objections are to be lodged with the Council
• the Council will not make a decision before 22 December.
22 December = end of January, due to standard Xmas holiday period IMO.


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Post: # 683070Post Bernard Shakey »

22 December is a Monday.

Christmas Day the 25th is the Thursday after that Monday.

Are you insinuating saintspremiers (I must say I find your user name quite amusing, unless it relates to the NAB Cup), that local government shuts down about a week before Christmas and does not begin until the end of January?

Are they all schoolteachers?


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Post: # 683072Post saint66au »

Bernard Shakey wrote:22 December is a Monday.

Christmas Day the 25th is the Thursday after that Monday.

Are you insinuating saintspremiers (I must say I find your user name quite amusing, unless it relates to the NAB Cup), that local government shuts down about a week before Christmas and does not begin until the end of January?

Are they all schoolteachers?
Dunno abou the end of Jan, but you can bet your life that Fri 19th is the last working day for the year for a gazillion people..and there'd be a few Local Govt depts among them


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Post: # 683074Post casey scorp »

I would be very surprised if the wheels of Frankston Council bureaucracy were not absolutely oiled in this case.

The application was received on 2 December, and by a day later it had progressed through registration and initial checking to "public notification".

Trust me, it's absolutely flying.

Provided there are no objections, I would think a permit would be issued on Monday 22 December.

They won't want to risk any objections delaying the project, and if they can issue a permit at 9am on 22 December (ie they have received no objections by that time) then I bet the permit will be popping out of the system.

It's a bit hard to see there being no objections, but who knows?


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Post: # 683077Post bobmurray »

Is there any chance of some numpty applying for a heritage application on Belvedere Park,F*** knows what the site was before it was an out of the way,dumpy,football ground or two.......


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Post: # 683085Post casey scorp »

The land was part of the old Seaford Swamp.

It seems from the Council’s 1997 vegetation study that the reserve is “severely degradedâ€


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Post: # 683129Post FortiusQuoFidelius »

casey scorp wrote:The land was part of the old Seaford Swamp.
This is incorrect. The old Seaford Swamp is to the west of Belvedere Park between the freeway and Railway Parade and north of Austin Rd, and is now a wetlands and bird sanctuary.
In 1985 the Ecology and Management of Seaford Swamp report was produced, which recommended the creation of more lagoons, substantial tree planting and improved public facilities. A master plan was subsequently proposed and implemented by City of Frankston and Melbourne Water in a management partnership using funds from the Melbourne Parks and Waterways Grants Program.
This was copied & pasted from http://www.frankston.vic.gov.au/Service ... index.aspx

If you read on to the last paragraph you will see that it states:

The Seaford Wetlands are bounded in the south by Austin Road, in the north by Eel Race Drain, to the east by Wells Road, and to the west by urban development. There is a walking/cycling track, which runs south from Eel Race Drain to Armstrongs Road. All roads that abut the Wetlands have access to the track.

You really should get your facts straight before you post! You should also take off your blinkers and look at ALL the facts not just those which suit your own agenda!!


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Post: # 683153Post GrumpyOne »

FortiusQuoFidelius wrote:
casey scorp wrote:The land was part of the old Seaford Swamp.
This is incorrect. The old Seaford Swamp is to the west of Belvedere Park between the freeway and Railway Parade and north of Austin Rd, and is now a wetlands and bird sanctuary.
Quite correct.


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Post: # 683158Post barks4eva »

I OBJECT!


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barks4eva wrote:I OBJECT!
noone cares


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barks4eva wrote:I OBJECT!
over ruled. counsel is badgering the witness


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Post: # 683162Post The Linton Street Flash »

I object at the lame name.

I will again post my suggestions for the name.

Denyer Park?

Door Frame Fields?

Bleak Paddocks?

Ganglands?

Faraway fields?

Wastelands?

Missing Girl Meadows?

Dangerous After Dark Park?

Oh Dear Oval?

Mistakelands?

Aluminium Window Oval?

Rarely Visited Oval?

Isolation Fields?

The Void?

Your Kidding Me Park?

The Perplexxus Center?

The Beat?

Rapelands?

Muggers Paddocks?

Creepy fields?

Disgracelands?

Archies Hole?

Inspiration Point?

Rapers Reserve?

Any others??


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Post: # 683172Post Seaford_Saint »

Linton Street.... you're a tosser!

Moorabbin is hardly in the A Class of Melbourne Suburbia... sorry to deflate your tyres with that fact


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barks4eva wrote:I OBJECT!
You mean you are OBJECTIONABLE dont you?

Club has lodged this at this time on purpose. Will go to the last council meeting before Xmas when everyone is distracted.

Anything in planning at councils get pushed through at this time. An age old council tactic. Make no mistake, the council and the club have been working in cahoots to get the best outcome and the timing is no co-incidence.

It will be passed and that, my friends, will be that.

LIVE WITH IT.


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