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RH35 wrote:On McEvoy, I saw him pull up lame just before 3/4 time. Did he come back on in the last quarter? I am interested because I heard Lyon say King and Gardiner are both sore and struggling to get up for the weekend (Gardiner will be suspended regardless). If McEvoy is now injured will be very interesting to see how they go.
Just picked up on this from todays Zeb report
Thought it worthy of its own thread!....
Wow , this could throw a cat among the pidgins for next week
What a scenario if we haven't got Gards, King or McEvoy!
what are the options ?
Blake , Kozi , Goose, Stanley Debut?
RH35 wrote:On McEvoy, I saw him pull up lame just before 3/4 time. Did he come back on in the last quarter? I am interested because I heard Lyon say King and Gardiner are both sore and struggling to get up for the weekend (Gardiner will be suspended regardless). If McEvoy is now injured will be very interesting to see how they go.
Just picked up on this from todays Zeb report
Thought it worthy of its own thread!....
Wow , this could throw a cat among the pidgins for next week
What a scenario if we haven't got Gards, King or McEvoy!
what are the options ?
Blake , Kozi , Goose, Stanley Debut?
Pidgins ..are they related to to the bird variety pigeons!!!
LOL...don't takei t seriously...hate the pedantic spell police...knew what you meant .....
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starsign wrote:Wow , this could throw a cat among the pidgins for next week
What a scenario if we haven't got Gards, King or McEvoy!
what are the options ?
Blake , Kozi , Goose, Stanley Debut?
i saw the first half of the zebras today and stanley looks a very impressive prospect. goose could come in as a mobile second ruck, kosi can ruck, blake can ruck. we've plenty of options.
starsign wrote:Wow , this could throw a cat among the pidgins for next week
What a scenario if we haven't got Gards, King or McEvoy!
what are the options ?
Blake , Kozi , Goose, Stanley Debut?
i saw the first half of the zebras today and stanley looks a very impressive prospect. goose could come in as a mobile second ruck, kosi can ruck, blake can ruck. we've plenty of options.
Blake can't ruck. He got smashed in the ruck in Adelaide when King came off. He gives away a minimum of 10cm height in the ruck. If we have to depend on Blake in the ruck then St.Kilda's stuffed.
McEvoy/Stanley will get absolutely destroyed against McIntosh, but what the hell, go for it. Their midfeild is a dud crop. Hayes, Ball, Dal Santo, Goddard and Montagna will tear them to pieces.
starsign wrote:Wow , this could throw a cat among the pidgins for next week
What a scenario if we haven't got Gards, King or McEvoy!
what are the options ?
Blake , Kozi , Goose, Stanley Debut?
i saw the first half of the zebras today and stanley looks a very impressive prospect. goose could come in as a mobile second ruck, kosi can ruck, blake can ruck. we've plenty of options.
Blake can't ruck. He got smashed in the ruck in Adelaide when King came off. He gives away a minimum of 10cm height in the ruck. If we have to depend on Blake in the ruck then St.Kilda's stuffed.
if all of gardiner, king and mcevoy were injured/suspended i'd go with kosi and stanley in the ruck and bring in goose to play chf.
but blake has been an effective ruck option at times in the past.
concedes a bit at the bounces but gives you plenty around the ground.
i remember him towelling up sandilands who stands about a foot taller. just exposed him for mobility.
RH35 wrote:On McEvoy, I saw him pull up lame just before 3/4 time. Did he come back on in the last quarter? I am interested because I heard Lyon say King and Gardiner are both sore and struggling to get up for the weekend (Gardiner will be suspended regardless). If McEvoy is now injured will be very interesting to see how they go.
Just picked up on this from todays Zeb report
Thought it worthy of its own thread!....
Wow , this could throw a cat among the pidgins for next week
What a scenario if we haven't got Gards, King or McEvoy!
what are the options ?
Blake , Kozi , Goose, Stanley Debut?
Pidgins ..are they related to to the bird variety pigeons!!!
LOL...don't takei t seriously...hate the pedantic spell police...knew what you meant .....
LOL thanks for that StPat
Knew it was out of wack but had a bit of a sp brain fade so I went for the "pidgin" as in Pidgin English ...er I think!!
anyway ta to the others for responding also, and I guess the full picture will unfold during the week
Was interested in hearing what peeps thought of the various options we have to possibly go with
I would hate to move Koz other than to give him the occasional run as we now do , and if Big Mac is fit I think he's the priority to come in for either Gards or Kingy
If both are out it will open up some interesting alternatives no doubt!
Big Carls sounds good......
if all of gardiner, king and mcevoy were injured/suspended i'd go with kosi and stanley in the ruck and bring in goose to play chf.
If they don't have the guts to bring Goose in to play at CHB (and put Blake in the ruck, to replace Gardi), I sincerely hope they bring him in to play in the ruck (if McEvoy doesn't come up).
The wait has been long enough. It's getting ridiculous. Unless he's much worse than he used to be, Goose is clearly in our best team. Many seem to be so scared of change, but there's a long, long way to go and a change can be as good as a holiday. Many are scared that if we make a change we could get worse, but we could also get better, or stay the same. There's one way to find out and it won't cost us much to do so. We'll learn something from it and be stronger/wiser for it.
We need to get Max and Goose back in the seniors and strengthen our half forward line with either Sam Fisher or Sammy Gilbert. Imagine their marking strength across half forward, leading up to the wings and letting Roo and Kosi stay inside the 50 more! How many teams would be able to cover Roo and Kosi inside 50, and Gilbert and/or Fisher across half forward?
I wouldn't want to play Kosi in the ruck, as he only seems to do well when settled in one position. When he had that brilliant period a few years ago, he was playing mainly in the ruck, but he was settled there. Now, when played there, he doesn't seem to do much, as he's used to playing full forward. We can easily afford to play McEvoy, Goose or Blake in the ruck, before Kosi.
We need to have the guts to pick our very best available team EVERY WEEK. We don't have to make winning a flag any harder than it needs to be.
claystreet wrote:Goose as a ruckman? lol lol lol !
PLEEEEZ
Ross Lyon "on the Couch" 2 weeks ago....
RL on playing Goose forward
We just wanted to give Matt the chance to take the game on and not follow someone around. His level of frustration is obviously building, he’s probably played 9 or 10 games in a row….
Is elite the right term? He is certainly a bonefide AFL player….. so it’s been tough.
We wanted to create some opportunities more than waiting for an opportunity down back,…..
and we also believe he can be a mobile ruckman
So he’s a terrific character and we think he is really going to play a part this year, how big a part we just don’t know yet !
How long have you been around? Where do you think Goose started his senior career playing for St Kilda? He came in and played ruck for a year or so (in about 2003), and then moved to CHB.
I'm not suggesting he's ideal in that position, far from it, but if Gardi and McEvoy were both unavailable this week, our next options are Kosi, Blake Goose and Stanley. I wouldn't move Kosi from FF, so Goose is as good an option there as any of the other 3. And it's only for a week. Ross also suggested the possibility of him playing ruck a couple of weeks ago. Our guys will get plenty of crumbs, no matter who plays there.
I mainly suggested it to get him into the team somewhere, because I fully believe he's in our best 22, unless he's completely lost it, which I doubt. It can then be juggled around the next week. We need to get into the habit of playing our very best team. I'd put him straight in to CHB and rotate Blake through the ruck (if McEvoy doesn't come up). We can easily afford to try a couple of things out. Keep guys on their toes and everyone interested.
Going to be interesting what they do with the ruck this week. As it is they will probably be returning Milney, and Max. Our selectors dont like making any changes at all, so they will find it hard to make three for the game. Therefore I can see them sticking with a ruck of King, Kosi, and Blake.
How long have you been around? Where do you think Goose started his senior career playing for St Kilda? He came in and played ruck for a year or so (in about 2003), and then moved to CHB.
I'm not suggesting he's ideal in that position, far from it, but if Gardi and McEvoy were both unavailable this week, our next options are Kosi, Blake Goose and Stanley. I wouldn't move Kosi from FF, so Goose is as good an option there as any of the other 3. And it's only for a week. Ross also suggested the possibility of him playing ruck a couple of weeks ago. Our guys will get plenty of crumbs, no matter who plays there.
I mainly suggested it to get him into the team somewhere, because I fully believe he's in our best 22, unless he's completely lost it, which I doubt. It can then be juggled around the next week. We need to get into the habit of playing our very best team. I'd put him straight in to CHB and rotate Blake through the ruck (if McEvoy doesn't come up). We can easily afford to try a couple of things out. Keep guys on their toes and everyone interested.
You ask how long i have been around well i have been around long enough to see the saints win a flag
You tell me hes a ruckman what ruckman he was a dud as a ruckman?
OH you answered that question i believe when you said "I'm not suggesting he's ideal in that position, far from it"
Go contradict yourself somewhere else
and may i ask how long you have been around expert??
claystreet wrote:Goose as a ruckman? lol lol lol !
PLEEEEZ
"Claystreet as a selector"
Another expert that knowes the lot you make me laugh
Believe non of what you hear and half of what you see and you wont make stupid statements on hearsay and inuendo
i believe he will play forward at some stage in place of Gwilt or the likes but if he plays as a number one ruckman this year i'll go follow Carlton next year, that how confident i am that he wont. Oh Ross said he "might" try him so it must be going to happen. Open your eyes expert
