Ball to Melbourne?

Gardiner_#1_fan · Fri 09 Oct 2009 5:16pm

http://sportal.com.au/AFL-news-display/ ... atum-79323

Says Ball may go to Melbourne

borderbarry · Fri 09 Oct 2009 5:17pm

Aparently we have offered him a better deal. We will have to wait and see.

Con Gorozidis · Fri 09 Oct 2009 5:25pm

i see it as a geniune possibility..... local club.... ease of training for him...
old skipper (mcdonald 32).... L Ball potential skipper in 2011....

only sticking point will be that they are utter rubbish..

SENsei · Post: # 846594Post **SENsei** » Fri 09 Oct 2009 5:25pm

He's gone.

Move on.

bigred · Post: # 846599Post **bigred** » Fri 09 Oct 2009 5:31pm

yup

Had some muppet from Melbourne's list management on SEN a short time ago.

They have already met with Luke's delightful manager. Did so as soon as the trade period ended...

So be it.

MCG-Unit · Post: # 846601Post **MCG-Unit** » Fri 09 Oct 2009 5:33pm

Article on the official MFC website:

Quote:
Following the conclusion of the AFL Trade Period, the Melbourne Football Club has declared its interest in Luke Ball.

General Manager - List Management, Tim Harrington, said, "We immediately held talks with Lukeâ€™s manager, Paul Connors, to get a better understanding of Lukeâ€™s future plans, given that we have the first selection in the pre-season draft.â€

suss · Post: # 846607Post **suss** » Fri 09 Oct 2009 5:48pm

They can crap on all they like and post cute little notices like that on their website but the fact is that he still may sign with us and if he doesn't, he effectively condemns himself to never playing finals again - not at AFL level anyway. Their heaven becomes his hell - not sure he'd want to sign up for that.

saintspremiers · Fri 09 Oct 2009 5:53pm

suss wrote:They can crap on all they like and post cute little notices like that on their website but the fact is that he still may sign with us and if he doesn't, he effectively condemns himself to never playing finals again - not at AFL level anyway. Their heaven becomes his hell - not sure he'd want to sign up for that.

What concerns me most is that we may get NOTHING for Ball.

And that is wrong if it happens.

joffaboy · Post: # 846616Post **joffaboy** » Fri 09 Oct 2009 5:56pm

saintspremiers wrote:
suss wrote:They can crap on all they like and post cute little notices like that on their website but the fact is that he still may sign with us and if he doesn't, he effectively condemns himself to never playing finals again - not at AFL level anyway. Their heaven becomes his hell - not sure he'd want to sign up for that.
What concerns me most is that we may get NOTHING for Ball.

And that is wrong if it happens.

BS - we get alot.

We make sure a premiership threat isn't stronger and that the players know that if they walk out that they cant make ultimatums to the club and put them over abarrel.

We say to the rest of the AFl - dont try and F*** us over.

We get self esteem

We get pride in our club.

All of it is much better than some s.hitty draft pick for a flog that will never play for us anyway.

bigred · Post: # 846617Post **bigred** » Fri 09 Oct 2009 5:57pm

Agreed.

St Fidelius · Fri 09 Oct 2009 5:59pm

MELBOURNE has taken immediate action to recruit Saints onballer Luke Ball through the pre-season draft.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/l ... 5784579357

Mr Magic · Post: # 846619Post **Mr Magic** » Fri 09 Oct 2009 6:01pm

joffaboy wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:
suss wrote:They can crap on all they like and post cute little notices like that on their website but the fact is that he still may sign with us and if he doesn't, he effectively condemns himself to never playing finals again - not at AFL level anyway. Their heaven becomes his hell - not sure he'd want to sign up for that.
What concerns me most is that we may get NOTHING for Ball.

And that is wrong if it happens.
BS - we get alot.

We make sure a premiership threat isn't stronger and that the players know that if they walk out that they cant make ultimatums to the club and put them over abarrel.

We say to the rest of the AFl - dont try and F*** us over.

We get self esteem

We get pride in our club.

All of it is much better than some s.hitty draft pick for a flog that will never play for us anyway.

+1

The Club is always bigger than the individual, be that
President
CEO
Coach
Player

The ramifications of acceding to Ball/Connors requests and/or demands could well cause us to implode.

Why wouldn't other players request/demand whatever they want from us if they see Ball get away with it?

What will other player managers think if they see Ball demand and receive a salary package well above his current worth. Especially if they have jsut re-negotiated or are in the mids of negotiateing?

IMO the Club had no option other than to proceed on the path they did.

Saint Bev · Post: # 846620Post **Saint Bev** » Fri 09 Oct 2009 6:01pm

saintspremiers wrote:
suss wrote:They can crap on all they like and post cute little notices like that on their website but the fact is that he still may sign with us and if he doesn't, he effectively condemns himself to never playing finals again - not at AFL level anyway. Their heaven becomes his hell - not sure he'd want to sign up for that.
What concerns me most is that we may get NOTHING for Ball.

And that is wrong if it happens.

Totally agree, nice of Melbourne to suddenly be all interested when trading has closed. Can't think to much of him if they are not prepared to give anything for him.

milney044 · Post: # 846622Post **milney044** » Fri 09 Oct 2009 6:02pm

Why would they want to give anything up for him when they can have him for free.

super dooper · Fri 09 Oct 2009 6:03pm

Con Gorozidis wrote: only sticking point will be that they are utter rubbish..

They're gonna be a very good team in 2-3 years time and some some bright talent in the midfield and backline...

I rather him go to Richmond where he will be entrenched on the bottom of the ladder as they re-enter another 5 year planning process...

fingers · Post: # 846634Post **fingers** » Fri 09 Oct 2009 6:22pm

joffaboy wrote:
saintspremiers wrote:
suss wrote:They can crap on all they like and post cute little notices like that on their website but the fact is that he still may sign with us and if he doesn't, he effectively condemns himself to never playing finals again - not at AFL level anyway. Their heaven becomes his hell - not sure he'd want to sign up for that.
What concerns me most is that we may get NOTHING for Ball.

And that is wrong if it happens.
BS - we get alot.

We make sure a premiership threat isn't stronger and that the players know that if they walk out that they cant make ultimatums to the club and put them over abarrel.

We say to the rest of the AFl - dont try and F*** us over.

We get self esteem

We get pride in our club.

All of it is much better than some s.hitty draft pick for a flog that will never play for us anyway.

+1

As for getting a "young man of character" well character doesn't up and leave.

St Fidelius · Fri 09 Oct 2009 6:23pm

Lyon said there's two options on the table for Ball: "Come back to St Kilda and trail and deliver the actions that get you selected in the senior team or go into the pre season draft and take your chances."

fingers · Post: # 846641Post **fingers** » Fri 09 Oct 2009 6:28pm

St Fidelius wrote:
Lyon said there's two options on the table for Ball: "Come back to St Kilda and trail and deliver the actions that get you selected in the senior team or go into the pre season draft and take your chances."

Just posted that in another thread. I LOVE THAT.

Dan Warna · Post: # 846647Post **Dan Warna** » Fri 09 Oct 2009 6:40pm

I hope something can be worked out, but its better for us if ball goes to melbourne for nothing than to Collingwood for pick 30.

pick 30 is nothing, while luke ball makes a strong club stronger.

luke ball at Melbourne...well he'll be their best player.

Moccha · Post: # 846654Post **Moccha** » Fri 09 Oct 2009 6:58pm

F*** Melbourne.

Pack of leachers

Would Ball be silly enough to go there?

St Fidelius · Fri 09 Oct 2009 7:02pm

Moccha wrote:F*** Melbourne.

Pack of leachers

Would Ball be silly enough to go there?

My thoughts exactly...

Yes, he wanted more game time and was willing to play for less money, But surely he still wants to play for a Club that play in Finals...

Dan Warna · Post: # 846664Post **Dan Warna** » Fri 09 Oct 2009 7:14pm

we rebuilt like that some time ago.

we got a few good years out of stephen powell who was an absolute beast, ironically his injuries and retirement exposed ball to hits.

powell, tough inside midfielder with limited kicking and speed but known for his tough tackling and physical presence on and off the ball...

PJ · Post: # 846665Post PJ » Fri 09 Oct 2009 7:14pm

I hope he goes to Melbourne actually. Nothing personal but Armitage has been on our list for 3 years now and Steven needs game time. We have to bring these guys through now or it's pointless having them there. I'm expecting to see Armo get at least 20 games next season and I think the coaches are hoping for a big year from him. Bally isn't the right fit any longer IMO.

Goose is king · Fri 09 Oct 2009 7:17pm

Can someone set up a poll of where we all think Luke will go

SainterK · Post: # 846683Post **SainterK** » Fri 09 Oct 2009 7:24pm

PJ wrote:I hope he goes to Melbourne actually. Nothing personal but Armitage has been on our list for 3 years now and Steven needs game time. We have to bring these guys through now or it's pointless having them there. I'm expecting to see Armo get at least 20 games next season and I think the coaches are hoping for a big year from him. Bally isn't the right fit any longer IMO.

If Luke is offered another contract, he will not be an automatic selection and just walk back in the side.

Armitage could just use it as further fuel to prove why the spot should be his....competition for spots is never a bad thing.