Ross 'The Regulator' Lyon

[Top4King]

I reckon within about a month of walking through the door at Moorabbin RL has gone "Luke Ball is on too much money".
RL has been working at reducing Ball's wage since then.
Any thoughts?

[Teflon]

I reckon Ross has secured Lovett for run/carry/elite pace.

I reckon hes got Tommy Walsh as a wildcard and IF Ball re signs....we have just secured one of the comps better in/under mids........the lot for pick 16.

That'll do me.

[ausfatcat]

I am pretty sure a month in he didn't give a rats about anyones pay

[SydneySainter]

It's the Football Manager's job to worry about player payments and contracts, not the coach.

[Ghost Like]

I'm pretty sure he looked at Luke and thought get the injuries out of his system and let's see what he can do. Pretty sure he believes a man of Luke's talent should be influencing games more. Especially after watching Kirk at close quarters. He's raised the bar for Luke and wants him to play 'Saints Footy' of the highest quality. Time for Luke to come back and pick up that gauntlet.

[stinger]

luke ball was getting twenty possessions in less than half a game of footy...plus all the hard ball gets, tackles and doing all the real tough sh!t,,,f*** knows why that wasn't good enough for our coach.....they are the facts...not the sh!t that is being peddled here and at moorabbin.ffs.........

[oneteam]

luke ball was getting twenty possessions in less than half a game of footy...plus all the hard ball gets, tackles and doing all the real tough sh!t,,,f*** knows why that wasn't good enough for our coach.....they are the facts...not the sh!t that is being peddled here and at moorabbin.ffs.........

the other teams set strategies to run off him. So he gets possessions, and hasn't yet got the tank to spread. Until he gets that into his game, he will be a weak link. i hope he fixes it , physically and mentally , and continues with the club

[Dr Spaceman]

I like Luke as much as the next bloke. In fact I like all our players, much to the annoyance of those I go to the footy with .

There’s no doubt he was doing all the tough stuff and was getting reasonable stats with limited game time. But that doesn’t mitigate the fact that, for whatever reasons, he currently lacks pace and kicking skills. And while he may stop an opposition side with a bone crunching tackle, he does not hurt them offensively.

I’m sure we’d all like the Luke Ball of a couple of years back but it’s really up to him, and his body, whether we see that again. But it’s not the fault of Ross Lyon!

[PJ]

luke ball was getting twenty possessions in less than half a game of footy

Actually that's not correct - he did that in the GF but before he was dropped his form was tailing off quite a bit. Yes he should be doing that every game and can again but gotta say Luke's form was pretty ordinary before he took a break at Sandy.

[ace]

It's the Football Manager's job to worry about player payments and contracts, not the coach.

Exactly, that way the coach can say, you are here now, do the job I give you. You have money problems, worry about them on your day off, now do the job I give you.

RL has no problem demanding the best out his players no matter what they are paid.

[Milan Faletic]

I reckon within about a month of walking through the door at Moorabbin RL has gone "Luke Ball is on too much money".
RL has been working at reducing Ball's wage since then.
Any thoughts?

Yes, I don't agree with you.

[ace]

luke ball was getting twenty possessions in less than half a game of footy...plus all the hard ball gets, tackles and doing all the real tough sh!t,,,f*** knows why that wasn't good enough for our coach.....they are the facts...not the sh!t that is being peddled here and at moorabbin.ffs.........

the other teams set strategies to run off him. So he gets possessions, and hasn't yet got the tank to spread. Until he gets that into his game, he will be a weak link. i hope he fixes it , physically and mentally , and continues with the club

Luke is tremendous defensively in close but as you say other teams are prepared to concede the ball to Luke because his possessions do not directly hurt.
If there is one player opposition coaches would like the ball in he hands of it is Luke Ball, he can't hurt by foot because the area threatened by his kicks are less than half any other St Kilda player.

Has anyone noticed that it is when opposition players are forced to handball or kick under pressure that our forward pressure works.
We set up a rolling zone to dissuade opponents from kicking long, then when they miss a mark or handpass we swamp them.
A player forced to hand ball is one step closer to a turnover.
The zone players don't get any possessions out of this, but they do help force the turnover.
When players run off Ball or he fails to take up station in the zone he compromises the team tactics.

Like Ross says it is what Luke does in the 98% of the time when he does not have possession that matters.

Luke has got to run as well as do good work around stoppages.
He needs to get out of the gym and get on the track whether he goes or stays.

[B W and R all over]

I reckon within about a month of walking through the door at Moorabbin RL has gone "Luke Ball is on too much money".
RL has been working at reducing Ball's wage since then.
Any thoughts?

Yes, I don't agree with you.

He does like to have a finger in every pie though.

[SydneySainter]

I reckon within about a month of walking through the door at Moorabbin RL has gone "Luke Ball is on too much money".
RL has been working at reducing Ball's wage since then.
Any thoughts?

Yes, I don't agree with you.

He does like to have a finger in every pie though.

We're not talking about GT.

[stinger]

gotta say Luke's form was pretty ordinary before he took a break at Sandy.

so was his game time....

[stinger]

luke ball was getting twenty possessions in less than half a game of footy...plus all the hard ball gets, tackles and doing all the real tough sh!t,,,f*** knows why that wasn't good enough for our coach.....they are the facts...not the sh!t that is being peddled here and at moorabbin.ffs.........

the other teams set strategies to run off him. So he gets possessions, and hasn't yet got the tank to spread. Until he gets that into his game, he will be a weak link. i hope he fixes it , physically and mentally , and continues with the club

Luke is tremendous defensively in close but as you say other teams are prepared to concede the ball to Luke because his possessions do not directly hurt.
If there is one player opposition coaches would like the ball in he hands of it is Luke Ball, he can't hurt by foot because the area threatened by his kicks are less than half any other St Kilda player.
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don't think gardiner or the geelong coaches would agree with you there.....