I think it is a good exercise to line two players up side by side and guage opinions on who could be the better in 2010.
I picked Heyne v Lynch because both play a similar role (HFF for the purpose of this exercise), both are yet to debut and both had a full year of development at Sandi in 2009.
I got to see ONE Sandi game for the year (flogged Casey by over 100 points). Both played reasonable games that day. I would have Nick Heyne just in front at this point ONLY because he had that one "Breakout" game where he kicked 5 goals, earning him a mention in the emergencies for the Hawthorn game in Tassie.
There would be plenty on here who have seen much more of these two than I who might be able to enlighten us on their various merits. It would be nice if we could keep the discussion reasonably civil and reasonably positive
If this idea takes off I'll add more "head to head" discussions over summer !!
Nick Heyne v Tom Lynch (1) !!
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Nick Heyne v Tom Lynch (1) !!
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Good post, some nice dicussion to have over the off season.
For arguments sake, I am going to say Lynch. I saw about 4-5 sandi games, in which I felt Lynch was fairly consistant throughout. I felt that he contributed for the majority of these games, where as Heyne I felt was patchy at times. In 2010, I think Lynch will have more influence over our season.
For arguments sake, I am going to say Lynch. I saw about 4-5 sandi games, in which I felt Lynch was fairly consistant throughout. I felt that he contributed for the majority of these games, where as Heyne I felt was patchy at times. In 2010, I think Lynch will have more influence over our season.
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Good post, some nice dicussion to have over the off season.
For arguments sake, I am going to say Lynch. I saw about 4-5 sandi games, in which I felt Lynch was fairly consistant throughout. I felt that he contributed for the majority of these games, where as Heyne I felt was patchy at times. In 2010, I think Lynch will have more influence over our season.
For arguments sake, I am going to say Lynch. I saw about 4-5 sandi games, in which I felt Lynch was fairly consistant throughout. I felt that he contributed for the majority of these games, where as Heyne I felt was patchy at times. In 2010, I think Lynch will have more influence over our season.
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G'day Eastern...
I think both are probably a year off regular first-team football - but due to positional requirements, would have Lynch slightly ahead of Heyne atm. Tommy plays that lead-up 3rd tall role, whilst Heyne is more of a flanker who can push up on to the wings and take his turn in the middle. Lynch was a fair bit more consistent this year, and on several occasions was racking up games with >18 disposals, >10 marks & a couple of goals - not to mention his excellent defensive pressure. If Heyne can lift his work rate and consistency across the whole 4 quarters, he'll be a terrific contributor in 2011 and beyond.
I think both are probably a year off regular first-team football - but due to positional requirements, would have Lynch slightly ahead of Heyne atm. Tommy plays that lead-up 3rd tall role, whilst Heyne is more of a flanker who can push up on to the wings and take his turn in the middle. Lynch was a fair bit more consistent this year, and on several occasions was racking up games with >18 disposals, >10 marks & a couple of goals - not to mention his excellent defensive pressure. If Heyne can lift his work rate and consistency across the whole 4 quarters, he'll be a terrific contributor in 2011 and beyond.
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I would go with Lynch at this stage. Saw 4-5 Sandy games this year and he was very consistent.
They are very different players.
Heyne I reckon has more natural ability but is inconsistent and appears to be cruising along.
Lynch is just a good honest player a real workhorse.
I have high hopes for both and reckon both are capable of playing in 2010, but would be looking for them to dominate at VFL level next year with the odd senior game.
Hoping we are going to have a hard side to break into.
They are very different players.
Heyne I reckon has more natural ability but is inconsistent and appears to be cruising along.
Lynch is just a good honest player a real workhorse.
I have high hopes for both and reckon both are capable of playing in 2010, but would be looking for them to dominate at VFL level next year with the odd senior game.
Hoping we are going to have a hard side to break into.
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Tommy V Tommy may be the more appropriate one. It seems both will be vying for the "3rd tall forward" posi next year, although I sincerely hope Goddard plays that role for most of the year (with Jesse Smith playing across half back).
It's great to have a few young guys to look forward to with real optimism again, though, for the first time in a few years.
It's great to have a few young guys to look forward to with real optimism again, though, for the first time in a few years.
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Its definately great to be reading about about our up and coming players and how they are going. I've enjoyed reading the updates from people who've actually seen them play. Great idea for a different thread Eastern. Quite a change from reading about Luke Ball. 
I never get the chance to go to any VFL games. My 14 year old plays so much sport, that its hard enough to get to all the Saints games around that. However, hopefully next year, things will settle down a bit and I will get to few VFL games. Would love to see how some of our young up and comers are going. Hopefully a few of them will get a game during the year. Most likely we might see a few in the NAB cup.
I never get the chance to go to any VFL games. My 14 year old plays so much sport, that its hard enough to get to all the Saints games around that. However, hopefully next year, things will settle down a bit and I will get to few VFL games. Would love to see how some of our young up and comers are going. Hopefully a few of them will get a game during the year. Most likely we might see a few in the NAB cup.
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Heyne vs Lynch is a pretty interesting one, they are two different players but they both provide something we had a shortage of in the later parts of the season, goal scoring ability...
Tom Lynch is exactly what we need for the here and now, he could have a Ben McKinley type second season and kick 30+ goals for us, that would be absolutely fantastic... Nick Heyne on the other hand can play a Steve Johnson type role, but as others have touched on he hasn't really shown the consistency required in the VFL to have his name up for serious consideration in the starting 22.
It is also important to remember that Heyne and Lynch have just completed their first year of RL's 4 year apprenticeships...
If Lynch and Heyne were to follow RL's blueprint they should play 6 or less games in 2010 but show enough to suggest that they have a future....
Jeez... aren't Sandy going to have an exciting forward line next season...
HF: N.Heyne B.McEvoy J.Steven
FF: T.Walsh N.Sautner T.Lynch
Tom Lynch is exactly what we need for the here and now, he could have a Ben McKinley type second season and kick 30+ goals for us, that would be absolutely fantastic... Nick Heyne on the other hand can play a Steve Johnson type role, but as others have touched on he hasn't really shown the consistency required in the VFL to have his name up for serious consideration in the starting 22.
It is also important to remember that Heyne and Lynch have just completed their first year of RL's 4 year apprenticeships...
If Lynch and Heyne were to follow RL's blueprint they should play 6 or less games in 2010 but show enough to suggest that they have a future....
Jeez... aren't Sandy going to have an exciting forward line next season...
HF: N.Heyne B.McEvoy J.Steven
FF: T.Walsh N.Sautner T.Lynch
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