2010 Sandringham Wrap

[bergholt]

Last year I did an ongoing thread about what was happening at Sandy, from the point-of-view of freely available stats. (http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... p?p=742133)

Most of us don't get down to games so I reckon it's pretty useful to be able to see at a glance who's been playing in the ressies and who's been named best. Yes, I agree that the listed best are not always completely reliable, but overall it's still an OK guide, and it's the best I have without going down there every weekend!

(Also copying across saintbrat's Leader Newspapers votes.)

Current Leaderboard (after VFL Round 18, AFL Round 21)

(6 votes for named best down to 1 vote for sixth named best each week.)

Votes at Sandringham

33: Tregear
27: Gallagher
26: Gaertner (r)
25: Simpkin (r)
24: Lynch, Walsh (r)
23: Pattison
20: Irving
19: A Smith
18: Magner
15: Eddy, Steven
14: Stanley
13: Armitage
12: Miles
9: Howard, McEvoy
8: Ferraro
6: Sautner
5: J Geary, King
4: Clarke, L Fisher (r), Hardiman, Johnson
3: Lyons
2: Archer (r), Dempster, Gallagher
1: Cahill, Howard, Lourey

Votes at Sandringham reserves

38: Andrews
31: K Geary
30: Gower
24: Allan
21: D Jones
16: T Johnston
14: Boland, Waller
13: Fleming, Paterakis, Smith-Cameron
12: Hardiman
11: Hunter
10: Stapleton
9: Miles
8: De Blecourt, Ferraro, McConnell
7: Barnes, Cathcart
6: Hallahan, C Johnston, McBain
5: Cleeve, Gaertner (r), Lourey, Nash, Sands, Winmar
4: L Fisher (r), Hutchings (r), McMahon
3: Ambrose, O'Sullivan, Shakallis
2: Archer (r)

Leaders Newspapers votes for Sandringham

(3-2-1 votes)

12: Gallagher
10: Irving, Tregear
9: Magner, Simpkin (r)
7: Lynch
6: Armitage, Steven
5: McEvoy
4: Pattison, A Smith
3: Clarke, Ferraro, Howard, Miles, Stanley
2: Sautner
1: Cahill, Gaertner (r), Johnson, Walsh (r)

Leader Newspapers votes for Sandringham Reserves:

13: Hardiman
11: Andrews, Gower
9: Paterakis
7: K Geary
6: Waller
5: Ferraro
4: Allan, T Johnston
3: Gaertner, C Johnston, McBain, McConnell, Miles, Stapleton
2: Boland, De Blecourt, D Jones, Smith-Cameron
1: Ambrose, Fleming, McConnell, McGrath (r), Sands, Simpkin (r)

Saints games for Sandringham

18: Johnson, Walsh (r)
17: A Smith
16: Gaertner (r)
14: Cahill
13: Heyne
12: Hutchings (r), Lynch
11: Pattison, Simpkin (r), Stanley
9: Archer (r)
8: Steven
7: Eddy
6: Armitage, King, McEvoy, Miles
5: L Fisher (r)
4: J Smith
3: Dempster, Peake
2: Winmar
1: Clarke, Dawson, J Geary, McQualter

Saints games for Sandringham reserves

7: Archer (r), McGrath (r)
5: L Fisher (r)
4: Simpkin (r)
3: Cahill, Miles, Winmar
2: Hutchings (r)
1: Dempster, Gaertner (r), Lynch

Games missed through injury
(italics means currently injured)

17: Winmar
16: J Smith
13: McGrath (r)
11: Riewoldt
10: Miles
9: Clarke, Dempster
8: L Fisher (r), King
7: Gram
6: Hutchings (r), Lynch
5: Armitage, Dawson, Eddy, Simpkin (r)
2: S Fisher, Gardiner, C Jones, Koschitzke, Steven
1: Archer (r), Cahill, Dal Santo, Gaertner (r), Goddard, Hayes, Pattison, Ray

Games missed through suspension
(italics means currently suspended)

8: Baker
3: Koschitzke
1: Pattison

[bergholt]

VFL Round 1

Sandy 15.12-102 def Frankston 7.11-53 (away)

Goals: Cahill 3, Eddy 2, Lourey 2, Sautner 2, Steven 2, Bruno, Clarke, McEvoy, Stanley
Best: Steven, Stanley, Clarke, Eddy, Gaertner, Magner
Leader Votes: Clarke, Steven, Stanley

Others: Heyne, W Johnson, Pattison, A Smith, Walsh

VFL Reserves Round 1

Sandy 18.12-120 def Frankston 5.6-36 (away)

Goals: Barnes 3, Worner 3, Archer 2, Boland 2, Ferraro 2, Andrews, L Fisher, Hardiman, C Johnston, D Jones, Shakallis
Best: C Johnston, Andrews, Hutchings, Gower, D Jones, Ferraro
Leader Votes: C Johnston, Andrews, Hardiman

Others: none

[bergholt]

VFL Round 2

Sandy 19.19-133 def Werribee 13.9-87

Goals: Howard 3, Lourey 3, McEvoy 3, Cahill 2, Sautner 2, Geary, Heyne, Hutchings, Irving, Steven, Tregear
Best: McEvoy, Magner, Eddy, Steven, Johnson, Lourey
Leader Votes: McEvoy, Magner, Steven

Others: L Fisher, Gaertner, Pattison, Smith, Walsh

VFL Reserves Round 2

Sandy 10.9-69 lost to Werribee 11.17-83

Goals: Boland 3, Archer 2, Hardiman 2, Barnes, McConnell, T Johnston
Best: Andrews, Fleming, Gower, Hardiman, Barnes, McConnell
Leader Votes: Hardiman, Andrews, Gower

Others: none

[Con Gorozidis]

Will Johnson is a genuine pressure on Zac Attack; and

Jack Steven is a genuine pressure on Andrew Mcqualter.

I said at the start of the year that Sandy would be a serious top 4 contender this year and most people told me I was dreaming. Even those who know more about Sandy and watch them more than me. But my argument was - injuries aside - we have a few slightly mature guys who would almost certainly be playing senior footy at other clubs playing for Sandy this year. I'm referring to Eddy, Mac, Stanley, Heyne, A smith, Steven, Will Johson, Simpkin, Lynch etc. A bit of talent down there. And all around the 20 year old bracket. So not babies.

[Thinline]

Geez I think back a decade and a player'd get hurt and I'd think 'Jesus, all we've got is Tony Delaney to play on so and so.'

How things have changed.

[na exa]

this is a good (and gunna be) thread.

very handy.
cool.

[Saints94]

This Lourey, is he a potential rookie for us next year?...........

[zebraman]

Keep an eye on Chris Irving re being rookied...so far...so good

[Armoooo]

Great thread, hope it keeps going...

Can't wait to see Steven in the side, I expect he will be there within three weeks.

Can anybody tell me a bit about Magner?

Age/ Position etc.

This year more than ever it's important to keep an eye out for the 20-21 year olds that have been overlooked in the past.

[bergholt]

Can anybody tell me a bit about Magner?

Age/ Position etc.

This year more than ever it's important to keep an eye out for the 20-21 year olds that have been overlooked in the past.

yeah, agreed.

there's an article on magner here:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/m ... 5849579795

doesn't give exact stats but it says he's a tough in-and-under midfielder, and a big possession winner. pure speculation says he's probably about 183cm/89kg? but could obviously be a touch taller or lighter.

vfl players to watch, from the sandy match report:

michael lourey
jonno nash
kallen geary
james magner
chris irving

and also important to notice that the howard who kicked three goals is brad howard who used to be on our list... must be almost fifty vfl games for him, good to see him staying down here, seeing as he was a queenslander originally.

[ace]

and also important to notice that the howard who kicked three goals is brad howard who used to be on our list... must be almost fifty vfl games for him, good to see him staying down here, seeing as he was a queenslander originally.

Why would anyone want to return to Queensland when they can be close to St Kilda.

[bergholt]

VFL Round 3

Williamstown 9.9-63 beaten by Sandringham 9.10-64 (away)

Goals: Irving 4, Tregear 3, Archer, Hutchings
Best: Irving, Pattison, Tregear, McEvoy, Walsh, Howard
Leader Votes: Irving, McEvoy, Pattison

Others: L Fisher, Gaertner, Heyne, Johnson, A Smith, Stanley

VFL Reserves Round 3

Williamstown 14.5-89 def Sandringham 7.11-53 (away)

Goals: Boland 2, Allan, Andrews, Cahill, Simpkin, Warner
Best: Gower, Stapleton, Smith-Cameron, Andrews, T Johnston, Paterakis
Leader Votes: Gower, Stapleton, Allan

Others: none

[AccidentallyTim]

Great thread, living in Tassie it's hard to keep up to date with the guys down at Sandy.

Will be keeping an eye on this for sure. Cheers to bergholt for the OP!

[bergholt]

VFL Round 4

Sandy 10.18-78 beat Coburg 10.10-70

Goals: Sautner 4, Pattison 2, Archer, Bruno, Magner, Stanley
Best: Tregear, Eddy, Walsh, Gaertner, Sautner, Magner
Leader Votes: Tregear, Magner, Howard

Others: L Fisher, Heyne, Hutchings, Johnson, Lynch, McEvoy, Peake, Smith

VFL Reserves Round 4

Sandy 19.13-127 beat Coburg 7.2-44

Goals: Barnes 4, Ferraro 4, Lourey 4, Geary 3, Hardiman 2, C Johnston, O'Sullivan
Best: Geary, Jones, Nash, T Johnston, Smith-Cameron, Boland
Leader Votes: Geary, Paterakis, McConnell

Others: Cahill, Simpkin

[saintbrat]

Keep an eye on Chris Irving re being rookied...so far...so good

he was up and about today--plenty of ball in a scrappy game-

you could have sworn there was a howing gale------ barely a zephyr,

AccidentallyTim

Great thread, living in Tassie it's hard to keep up to date with the guys down at Sandy.

Will be keeping an eye on this for sure. Cheers to bergholt for the OP!

the BIG tasmanian was evident when onnthe ground- I didn't realise he was so solid but maybe he has grown over the last 6 mths,

[Solar]

Keep an eye on Chris Irving re being rookied...so far...so good

he was up and about today--plenty of ball in a scrappy game-

you could have sworn there was a howing gale------ barely a zephyr,

AccidentallyTim

Great thread, living in Tassie it's hard to keep up to date with the guys down at Sandy.

Will be keeping an eye on this for sure. Cheers to bergholt for the OP!

the BIG tasmanian was evident when onnthe ground- I didn't realise he was so solid but maybe he has grown over the last 6 mths,

things that might go against him is his disposal and speed. But works hard, reads the play well and was a shinning light in a slow midfield today for the zebs. Beware of best players lists because they don't always rng true when you actually watch the game

[zebraman]

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things that might go against him is his disposal and speed. But works hard, reads the play well and was a shinning light in a slow midfield today for the zebs. Beware of best players lists because they don't always rng true when you actually watch the game[/quote]

Disposal and speed certainly weren't Tony Shaw's strong points!

[bergholt]

VFL Round 5

Sandy 10.10-70 lost to Port Melbourne 25.12-162

Goals: Magner 2, Peake 2, Cahill, Heyne, McEvoy, Sautner, J Smith, Stanley
Best: Gallagher, Walsh, Gaertner, Magner, Tregear, Irving
Leader Votes: Gallagher, Magner, Gaertner

Others: Eddy, Johnson, Pattison, A Smith

VFL Reserves Round 5

Sandy 17.7-109 lost to Port Melbourne 16.15-111

Goals: Archer 3, Boland 3, L Fisher 3, Allan, Barnes, Ferraro, Fleming, C Johnston, McConnell, Paterakis, Simpkin
Best: McConnell, Andrews, L Fisher, Boland, Ferraro, Gower
Leader Votes: McConnell, Smith-Cameron, Simpkin

Others: Hutchings

[borderbarry]

Tommy Walsh, thats three games in a row among the best. Keep it up.

[InkerSaint]

Thanks bergholt, I'll be keeping an eye on this thread.

Really keen to follow the progress of messrs. Smith and Walsh.

[Moccha]

bit of a kick in the guts for L Fisher to be playing VFL ressies. He's too good for that comp

[Spinner]

Walsh wasnt in the best for mine.


When the ball is in there air - he isnt.


Can kick it thou!

[bigcarl]

Walsh wasnt in the best for mine. When the ball is in the air - he isnt. Can kick it thou!

i didn't see the game, but that is clearly something he'll have to work on if he wants to be a key forward. how did his opponent go?

[sainta]

If J Smith is Jesse Smith how did he go in his first game for however long it has been?

[bergholt]

If J Smith is Jesse Smith how did he go in his first game for however long it has been?

j smith is jesse smith. first game since the two vfl reserves games he played in the middle of last year. from all reports he wasn't bad, though i've read that he only played 10-15 minutes a quarter. if he pulled up well then it's a great sign for the saints...