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B.M wrote: Wed 13 Oct 2021 7:58pm Why didn’t we make a play for Ladhams then??
He would have cost too much and he wanted to play for Sydney who had expressed interest him in the past.


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B.M wrote: Wed 13 Oct 2021 7:58pm Why didn’t we make a play for Ladhams then??
I'm guessing $$$, protecting our Cap for signing Steele & RoMa as well as having a crack at Bing.


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B.M wrote: Wed 13 Oct 2021 7:58pm Why didn’t we make a play for Ladhams then??
Why were Port keen to get rid of him? Something fishy about this.


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Gershwin wrote: Wed 13 Oct 2021 6:53pm
evertonfc wrote: Wed 13 Oct 2021 6:39pm Honestly would now rather pick up Ceglar for peanuts, have Hawthorn take part of his salary and use those 2-3 years to properly develop Heath (and draft another one next year). Would free up Marshall to go forward with King, which is such an attractive proposition and would probably extend his career. Ceglar is now set to go for Geelong for a swap of late picks - a clever deal by them.

Pick 62 or future fourth should be the offer for Xerri. They literally won't play him next year, at which point we can get him for free.

Anyway, I expect we'll end up doing the deal for a future third, because our modus operandi is all about "get the player in the door", even if it means paying over the odds.

I'd also be perfectly happy axing Hunter and finding the next best WAFL/SANFL/VFL ruckman in the 22-24 age bracket. That said, the coaching staff believe that a good pre-season would see Hunter become much more effective. Not sure I share their optimism, but I see the point.
They want a future 2nd not 3rd.
Yes, we offered a third, which I believed was overs. We should have stuck with our original offer (4th) and not budged. They wanted a second - which was an ambit claim. Deal should have died long before today IMO and we should have turned our attention elsewhere.

As we now see, the deal hasn't happened and that is absolutely no concern for me. Time to trawl the State Leagues and see what comes up. I'm convinced there's better options than Paul Hunter, although maybe he's a different player when fully fit (seems unlikely).

Luke Strnadica is a 203cm-type who would probably offer all the same attributes to Xerri at a similar age; Zach Strom is similar to Marshall (shorter but extremely mobile, can ruck or KPP). They're certainly out there.
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Ladhams cost pick 12 in the end.
If we had split pick 9 for two late firsts, he would have been worth about an 18.
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Port had no room for him

Dixon, Georgiadis and Marshall preferred forwards

Lycett preferred ruckman


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St Kilda could always pick up Tom Campbell for a year as a back up, for nothing.

I don't think North has re-signed him, yet.


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B.M wrote: Wed 13 Oct 2021 7:58pm Why didn’t we make a play for Ladhams then??
He wanted and got more money that we could give.


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Bottom line the a you don't cough up a second round pick for a third rate ruckman. We already did that with Billy Longer.


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Another time the great philosophy of selling off great players for draft picks is a ridiculous notion!!!

NDS for pick 25 (Billy Longer)

Seriously that is laughable


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B.M wrote: Wed 13 Oct 2021 10:53pm Another time the great philosophy of selling off great players for draft picks is a ridiculous notion!!!

NDS for pick 25 (Billy Longer)

Seriously that is laughable
Yeah nothing funny in that trade :(


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Really hope this doesn't come back to bite us. We 'almost' landed Cox back in the day who probably would have helped us to win a few flags, and we identified Draper as a gun before he had played a game in the AFL. We do need another readymade ruck - Archie Smith would be my preference.

People thinking that Hunter is suddenly a viable option because he didn't look quite so terrible against Freo need to remember that Darcy was injured early in that game so he was up against a hobbled Darcy and Lloyd Meek, a 23 year old who had played 8 games. Hunter still only managed 4 disposals and 16 hitouts.


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mad saint guy wrote: Wed 13 Oct 2021 11:22pm Really hope this doesn't come back to bite us. We 'almost' landed Cox back in the day who probably would have helped us to win a few flags, and we identified Draper as a gun before he had played a game in the AFL. We do need another readymade ruck - Archie Smith would be my preference.

People thinking that Hunter is suddenly a viable option because he didn't look quite so terrible against Freo need to remember that Darcy was injured early in that game so he was up against a hobbled Darcy and Lloyd Meek, a 23 year old who had played 8 games. Hunter still only managed 4 disposals and 16 hitouts.
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Paul Hunter will be feeling please tonight.
He is yet to be contracted for 2022.
But he will soon become a required player.
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The Brad Hill deal sent a message that St Kilda is a club willing to overpay for a player they want . North had nothing to lose and clearly aren’t in need of another 3rd round pick. They are focusing on first and second round picks. It’s also probably about them sending a message to their playing group that they are going to demand a high price for any contracted player.


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ace wrote: Thu 14 Oct 2021 12:21am Paul Hunter will be feeling please tonight.
He is yet to be contracted for 2022.
But he will soon become a required player.
Lonie, Kent and Joyce fear their telephones.
If Mason Cox is delisted by Collingwood, then I'd rather have him as a DFA for a season than Paul Hunter.


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Life Long Saint wrote: Thu 14 Oct 2021 8:03am If Mason Cox is delisted by Collingwood, then I'd rather have him as a DFA for a season than Paul Hunter.
If he came cheap, then maybe. Question is, why hasn’t Collingwood played him more in the ruck? Granted, they have Grundy, but does Cox have the endurance?

Anyway it seems we are in the same position as last season. Extremely vulnerable to injuries/absences of Ryder and Marshall.

Maybe if Sharman develops and King continues his rapid improvement, we’ll not be so dependent on Marshall playing up forward.

Hunter seems to be depth. I’d like to know how far Heath is off in terms of development. Is he big and strong enough to debut next season? It may come to that.


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bigcarl wrote: Thu 14 Oct 2021 10:27am I’d like to know how far Heath is off in terms of development. Is he big and strong enough to debut next season? It may come to that.
He's 18 and spent this year doing his VCE.
Don't hold your breath for any meaningful output in the ruck in the next few years. He'll be at least 21 before he's ready for that burden.


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I have no idea about Heath but……Marshall was not considered “ready” when he first played and showed abit was only because there was no one else


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I have no idea about Heath but……Marshall was not considered “ready” when he first played and showed abit was only because there was no one else


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Marshall was 22yo before he played

Heath is 18 and probably years away

Could turn out to be Spida Everitt or Lewis Pierce?!


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B.M wrote: Thu 14 Oct 2021 11:03am Marshall was 22yo before he played

Heath is 18 and probably years away

Could turn out to be Spida Everitt or Lewis Pierce?!
Concussion f***ed Lewis not lack of talent.


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Bottom line didn't over pay so good decision.

Will be other options in 12 months time and the reality is this non trade will not be the difference between a top 4 finish or not in 2022 .


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damienc wrote: Wed 13 Oct 2021 7:59pm
B.M wrote: Wed 13 Oct 2021 7:58pm Why didn’t we make a play for Ladhams then??
He would have cost too much and he wanted to play for Sydney who had expressed interest him in the past.
Basically didn't have draft picks to trade. It's obvious they want the two NGA guys.


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Could have easily done the same deal as Sydney if we really wanted him

Salary cap tight

We are a middling list

WTF would the cap be tight

Sydney have a better list and with Buddy on 1.4M this season and they afforded him!


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