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Lovett Caught Drinking
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we already knew that but that's beside the point...plugger66 wrote:Im an idiot. that may be so but you are obviously dumb. I have been locked up for 4 hours once before and I have no profile at all. I love the way you know exactly what happened. Excuses excuses.S.A Saint wrote:You are an idiot...but that's beside the pointplugger66 wrote:So everyone who gets arrested for being drunk has to be a name. If thats the case what is my name? Its no big deal but dont make excuses for him especially with his form.S.A Saint wrote:he ended up getting drunk on his birthday at a club/bar was prob walking home in that state or might have even been going to hotel room or whatever and some cops though to make a name for themselves decided to arrest him due to his name...i would be worried if he assaulted, bashed, or something along those lines a civilian or the police officer...stmac35 wrote:They've released a statement:
http://www.realfooty.com.au/articles/20 ... 05193.html
Doesn't sound too bad...St Kilda footballer Andrew Lovett is facing a police charge of being drunk in a public place, the AFL club announced on Monday night.
A St Kilda statement said the incident happened when Lovett, while on annual leave, was celebrating his birthday with friends at a private residence in St Kilda early Saturday morning.
hopefully he learns that the pre season is about to start and needs to focus on training..
he just wanted to blow off some steam before the season starts...
when you get drunk of course you are going to be in a public place...i mean he was walking down the street ffs and how else are you going to get from lets say one bar to another than walk...and the only reason him being arrested was due to his high profile (just in case plugger misses the point again)...i say good on him for not abusing the hell out of them and getting himself into more crap...
when you got arrested did u abuse or assault the police or anyone or just walked down the street drunk...there is a massive difference between the two...and going by the article lovett wasn't accused of anything just being drunk...im not making an excuse for him, im just saying he got drunk on his birthday and its the off season no big deal...hasn't harmed anyone yet..if this was done throughout the season then its a different story...
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Roo was hoping to get the extra salary for himself - and probably deserves it.Saint Bev wrote:I am unimpressed. This is not how you behave when you are turning over a new leaf. Give him another chance, but do it again, and your out. I have faith that Ross will handle it in the appropriate manner. Interesting to note is the Roo wasn't keen on getting him.
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You should have expected that, hanging out with Collingwood supporters.plugger66 wrote: I have been locked up for 4 hours once before
Your mummy told you to stay away from them and you ignored her.
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Well I just got locked up and wasnt charged so whatever I did was obviously less than what Lovett did and just because he was only charged with being drunk doesnt mean there wasnt some abuse. It is a bit of deal for 2 things and if you cant see it well it aint worth discussing it with you. One he is at a new club and secondly and most importantly he has history and doesnt seem to have learnt that much. And you say it was off season well for him training stargted 2 days later. why would you be out that late 2 days before a 4km time trial at a new club.S.A Saint wrote:we already knew that but that's beside the point...plugger66 wrote:Im an idiot. that may be so but you are obviously dumb. I have been locked up for 4 hours once before and I have no profile at all. I love the way you know exactly what happened. Excuses excuses.S.A Saint wrote:You are an idiot...but that's beside the pointplugger66 wrote:So everyone who gets arrested for being drunk has to be a name. If thats the case what is my name? Its no big deal but dont make excuses for him especially with his form.S.A Saint wrote:he ended up getting drunk on his birthday at a club/bar was prob walking home in that state or might have even been going to hotel room or whatever and some cops though to make a name for themselves decided to arrest him due to his name...i would be worried if he assaulted, bashed, or something along those lines a civilian or the police officer...stmac35 wrote:They've released a statement:
http://www.realfooty.com.au/articles/20 ... 05193.html
Doesn't sound too bad...St Kilda footballer Andrew Lovett is facing a police charge of being drunk in a public place, the AFL club announced on Monday night.
A St Kilda statement said the incident happened when Lovett, while on annual leave, was celebrating his birthday with friends at a private residence in St Kilda early Saturday morning.
hopefully he learns that the pre season is about to start and needs to focus on training..
he just wanted to blow off some steam before the season starts...
when you get drunk of course you are going to be in a public place...i mean he was walking down the street ffs and how else are you going to get from lets say one bar to another than walk...and the only reason him being arrested was due to his high profile (just in case plugger misses the point again)...i say good on him for not abusing the hell out of them and getting himself into more crap...
when you got arrested did u abuse or assault the police or anyone or just walked down the street drunk...there is a massive difference between the two...and going by the article lovett wasn't accused of anything just being drunk...im not making an excuse for him, im just saying he got drunk on his birthday and its the off season no big deal...hasn't harmed anyone yet..if this was done throughout the season then its a different story...
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I hope it all just passes under the bridge. I'm not going to get my undies in a knot for a bloke having a drink on his birthday outside of the footy season. Had it have happened during the season I'd understand a fuss being made. I hope he gets cuts some slack. JMHO
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if there was abuse involved then im sure the media would have been all over it..nothing beats a good to story to get a player down....yes i admit it is a bit of a concern but as long as he doesn't do it throughout the season i really couldn't care what he does during the off season as long as its nothing major like bashing someone or to that alike...it was his birthday ffs...so what he should wait until the season is over to celebrate itplugger66 wrote:Well I just got locked up and wasnt charged so whatever I did was obviously less than what Lovett did and just because he was only charged with being drunk doesnt mean there wasnt some abuse. It is a bit of deal for 2 things and if you cant see it well it aint worth discussing it with you. One he is at a new club and secondly and most importantly he has history and doesnt seem to have learnt that much. And you say it was off season well for him training stargted 2 days later. why would you be out that late 2 days before a 4km time trial at a new club.S.A Saint wrote:we already knew that but that's beside the point...plugger66 wrote:Im an idiot. that may be so but you are obviously dumb. I have been locked up for 4 hours once before and I have no profile at all. I love the way you know exactly what happened. Excuses excuses.S.A Saint wrote:You are an idiot...but that's beside the pointplugger66 wrote:So everyone who gets arrested for being drunk has to be a name. If thats the case what is my name? Its no big deal but dont make excuses for him especially with his form.S.A Saint wrote:he ended up getting drunk on his birthday at a club/bar was prob walking home in that state or might have even been going to hotel room or whatever and some cops though to make a name for themselves decided to arrest him due to his name...i would be worried if he assaulted, bashed, or something along those lines a civilian or the police officer...stmac35 wrote:They've released a statement:
http://www.realfooty.com.au/articles/20 ... 05193.html
Doesn't sound too bad...St Kilda footballer Andrew Lovett is facing a police charge of being drunk in a public place, the AFL club announced on Monday night.
A St Kilda statement said the incident happened when Lovett, while on annual leave, was celebrating his birthday with friends at a private residence in St Kilda early Saturday morning.
hopefully he learns that the pre season is about to start and needs to focus on training..
he just wanted to blow off some steam before the season starts...
when you get drunk of course you are going to be in a public place...i mean he was walking down the street ffs and how else are you going to get from lets say one bar to another than walk...and the only reason him being arrested was due to his high profile (just in case plugger misses the point again)...i say good on him for not abusing the hell out of them and getting himself into more crap...
when you got arrested did u abuse or assault the police or anyone or just walked down the street drunk...there is a massive difference between the two...and going by the article lovett wasn't accused of anything just being drunk...im not making an excuse for him, im just saying he got drunk on his birthday and its the off season no big deal...hasn't harmed anyone yet..if this was done throughout the season then its a different story...
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The season was over!S.A Saint wrote: if there was abuse involved then im sure the media would have been all over it..nothing beats a good to story to get a player down....yes i admit it is a bit of a concern but as long as he doesn't do it throughout the season i really couldn't care what he does during the off season as long as its nothing major like bashing someone or to that alike...it was his birthday ffs...so what he should wait until the season is over to celebrate it
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you missed the point....ace wrote:The season was over!S.A Saint wrote: if there was abuse involved then im sure the media would have been all over it..nothing beats a good to story to get a player down....yes i admit it is a bit of a concern but as long as he doesn't do it throughout the season i really couldn't care what he does during the off season as long as its nothing major like bashing someone or to that alike...it was his birthday ffs...so what he should wait until the season is over to celebrate it
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So off season means no footy. If that is the case you will not mind him being out till 6am every Saturday night and drinking as long as he stops before round one. Do you actually have a clue. Money has plenty to do with it because he he stuffs up once to often he may lose that money. You would think he wouldnt want to lose 300k a year. As for me, Im pretty sure I am not in the public eye and secondly and havent before or since had any form with this type of thing. As I have said before you just dont get it.
No i don't mind it as long as his performance doesn't drop off, and he is able to play at his previous best...money to everyone is not the most important thing...maybe he values his social life and friends more who knows....just because you don't see it as being right doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you...we are here to win flags and not worry about what player do in the off season...look at west coast and all their problems with players...the only thing that matters is winning flags..i couldn't care if we had the worst culture in the afl as long as we win flags consistent then it quiet frankly doesn't bother me...plugger66 wrote:So off season means no footy. If that is the case you will not mind him being out till 6am every Saturday night and drinking as long as he stops before round one. Do you actually have a clue. Money has plenty to do with it because he he stuffs up once to often he may lose that money. You would think he wouldnt want to lose 300k a year. As for me, Im pretty sure I am not in the public eye and secondly and havent before or since had any form with this type of thing. As I have said before you just dont get it.
So would Essendon considering they dont have Luke Ball yetMCG-Unit wrote:Would do that trade in a heartbeatJoffa Burns wrote:Can we trade him back to Essendon for Luke Ball?
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How many shake-ups does one fellow need?Devilhead wrote:Better now than later on ...... hopefully this will shake him up a bit - people can change and do change - either way sounds like he was having a good birthday up until his little walk
Already cost himself a career at one club.
Why would he put himself in the position of being drunk in a public place (and he would've had to have been quite drunk) two days before he's due to start training with his new club, and after all his talk about starting fresh?
And if he had to get somewhere, how hard is it to take a cab?
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You know what the worst thing is...... This bloke hadn't even started training with us yet.....Let alone play any games for our club.
Its just f***ed up..... Ive got a feeling this wont be the last time we discuss Lovett in a negative context.
The players are thinking, we all work so hard to stay out of trouble, and this bloke walks in, after being targeted during trade week and we have to deal with this s***. If I was Riewoldt, I would be pissed off, having to deal with idiots.
The bloke is 27. He better have a steller season next year and live up to expectation - because this bulls*** is firstly unacceptable by an adult and secondly and more importantly not wanted at St Kilda.
Its just f***ed up..... Ive got a feeling this wont be the last time we discuss Lovett in a negative context.
The players are thinking, we all work so hard to stay out of trouble, and this bloke walks in, after being targeted during trade week and we have to deal with this s***. If I was Riewoldt, I would be pissed off, having to deal with idiots.
The bloke is 27. He better have a steller season next year and live up to expectation - because this bulls*** is firstly unacceptable by an adult and secondly and more importantly not wanted at St Kilda.
What are you talking about. I was talking about me not having had other issues with cops like Lovett has had previously before the latest one. Should I go get arrested before I comment on the situation?Devilhead wrote:It seems then that you are giving your expert opinion about a subject that you have no experience and no idea aboutplugger66 wrote: and secondly and havent before or since had any form with this type of thing.
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S.A Saint wrote:No i don't mind it as long as his performance doesn't drop off, and he is able to play at his previous best...money to everyone is not the most important thing...maybe he values his social life and friends more who knows....just because you don't see it as being right doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you...we are here to win flags and not worry about what player do in the off season...look at west coast and all their problems with players...the only thing that matters is winning flags..i couldn't care if we had the worst culture in the afl as long as we win flags consistent then it quiet frankly doesn't bother me...plugger66 wrote:So off season means no footy. If that is the case you will not mind him being out till 6am every Saturday night and drinking as long as he stops before round one. Do you actually have a clue. Money has plenty to do with it because he he stuffs up once to often he may lose that money. You would think he wouldnt want to lose 300k a year. As for me, Im pretty sure I am not in the public eye and secondly and havent before or since had any form with this type of thing. As I have said before you just dont get it.
First up, ive disagreed with pretty much everything you have said in this thread thus far.....But to be specific to this post.
1) What is his best performance? What you see, or what he would be capable of? Drinking (getting blind) two days before training is certainly not striving for optimal 'performance'. I dont care who you are, anyone that trains after a massive one feels it - and if you dont feel it, your just selling yourself short from being even better.
2) Its certainly fair to not value money as most important - What really is significant if that he is not valuing the club and success as more important as his 'social life and friends'.
3) West Coast? How did they go with defending their win without Cousins? They got a flag, but their team was dismantled because of drug infested off seasons. But hey, who cares what they do in the off season, do as many drugs as you can while you can.
4) As long as we win 'flags' - We havn't won any recently. By the way, having the 'worst' culture hasn't exactly helped us win too many flags over the last 100 years. But hey, you seem to recognize a winning formula.