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It appears other people within the club wanted Martin and Watters pulled rank so it aint happening!
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Your opinion, my opinion, I'll let history judge, mate. I feel however that this guy is bad medicine (no pun intended) agree to disagree? have a good one!
R. Harvey 3 votes! wrote:It appears other people within the club wanted Martin and Watters pulled rank so it aint happening!
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have heard differently, but who really knows?
Lance or James??
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I still think something is wrong with him
2010 11 clearances against port , 8 against StKilda the following week.
2011 9 clearances against West Coast , 8 against North
2012 7 clearances against Carlton and Fremantle
2013 4 clearances was as good as he got.
Why is he trending downward in his key stats?
thejiggingsaint wrote:Why we even consider recruiting this player after his performance against Carlton on the big stage amazes me.
Ridiculous
How did Lenny and Roo go in there first final? Pitiful...
Can not question the blokes football ability, will be a top5-10 player....just his off field stuff that is the question mark
I know it's slightly off topic, but Riewoldt kicked 3.3 in his first final, from limited opportunities, in a total of 10.9. Was hardly pitiful.
Good that you can look up stats, but do you remember the game?
Pitiful is a bit extreme I admit, just saying can't rate Martin on his first final, wasn't that poor anyhow.
thejiggingsaint wrote:No he wasn't "That poor" but there again he was hardly showing off form that merits all the big wraps he gets from some on here.
We can agree on the behaviour thing....having said that I am only going on hear say....it leaves the big question mark.
There is none on his footballing ability though,clearly will be elite (if he stays out of jail ).
thejiggingsaint wrote:No he wasn't "That poor" but there again he was hardly showing off form that merits all the big wraps he gets from some on here.
We can agree on the behaviour thing....having said that I am only going on hear say....it leaves the big question mark.
There is none on his footballing ability though,clearly will be elite (if he stays out of jail ).
So I'm a fence sitter on this one.
He started elite and is developing backwards.
He's like Benjamin Button.
How are we even slightly getting Martin if Armo and Fisher were told they will be traded if they go away with him this off season. I dont think it was a bluff either as it was said in front of the whole group. he isnt coming to us unless SW is being sacked.
plugger66 wrote:How are we even slightly getting Martin if Armo and Fisher were told they will be traded if they go away with him this off season. I dont think it was a bluff either as it was said in front of the whole group. he isnt coming to us unless SW is being sacked.
plugger66 wrote:How are we even slightly getting Martin if Armo and Fisher were told they will be traded if they go away with him this off season. I dont think it was a bluff either as it was said in front of the whole group. he isnt coming to us unless SW is being sacked.
Complete fabrication of your mind!
What my post or that we are getting Martin? The post is 100% true so yes complete fabrication that we are interested in him unless pelchan can just go completely over the head of our coach which would then make our coach sound as weak as piss.
plugger66 wrote:How are we even slightly getting Martin if Armo and Fisher were told they will be traded if they go away with him this off season. I dont think it was a bluff either as it was said in front of the whole group. he isnt coming to us unless SW is being sacked.
Complete fabrication of your mind!
What my post or that we are getting Martin? The post is 100% true so yes complete fabrication that we are interested in him unless pelchan can just go completely over the head of our coach which would then make our coach sound as weak as piss.
Could the trip thing be in the context of the dwarf thing in combination with Martin rather than the Martin thing solely?
The club did say end of season trips had been cancelled?
What my post or that we are getting Martin? The post is 100% true so yes complete fabrication that we are interested in him unless pelchan can just go completely over the head of our coach which would then make our coach sound as weak as piss.
Could the trip thing be in the context of the dwarf thing in combination with Martin rather than the Martin thing solely?
The club did say end of season trips had been cancelled?
Yes but why make a direct reference to Martin if the real issue was just cancelling the trip and anyway some players are still going away overseas anyway.
plugger66 wrote:
Could the trip thing be in the context of the dwarf thing in combination with Martin rather than the Martin thing solely?
The club did say end of season trips had been cancelled?
Yes but why make a direct reference to Martin if the real issue was just cancelling the trip and anyway some players are still going away overseas anyway.
Yes but the Martin thing would definitely create publicity, Caro is gunning for Chips for example.
For the record.
On governance grounds I dont think any coach anywhere in the AFL should be participating in trading/recruiting activity in September to December. Their job is over for the year. Take a holiday and come back in December.
I know this is unrealistic - but this is how I believe it should be.
elizabethr wrote:Armo and Chips being given an ultimatum in front of "the whole group"
Laughable. .
Sounds very leading teams.
No point trying to deny they're all super close though, it's clear as day on twitterverse, and if I was their mum I'd kind of be freakin out if I'm being honest