gringo wrote: ↑Sun 17 Mar 2019 7:55pmI guess you are addressing me, I'm no doomsayer, I'm just pointing out that there was nothing wrong with pointing out faults with the club, we all make them. This season will really sort the wheat from the chaff, if we are on less than 3 wins by midseason I can't see Richo surviving, it also means that that generation of players has not progressed in all likelihood. Last year was a poor year by too many players and if we are to go back up the ladder we need guys like Billings, Acres and Dunstan to become what they promised they might be.To the top wrote: ↑Sun 17 Mar 2019 7:39pm The faults of the past have been what they are - and you can not go backwards in time
To the doomsayers, I ask this ...
Starting from the Draft which delivered Billings, Dunstan and Acres to the Club, List the ages of these players now and how many games they have played
Because that is the future - noting also that the players listed have not had the benefit of established Senior players to support their entry to AFL football as 18 year olds and particularly absent Fisher, Dempster, Riewoldt and Montagna
These players have not had the benefit of being “under the radar” because of the presence of others
What we do currently is look for the signs, as we did post Riewoldt and Koschitzke and the others who gave us the side we had from that time
My whole point was it's crazy to banish someone for free speech. Home truths aren't the devil, complacency and not learning from mistakes is. It's hard to hear but you can't progress without some self assessment. I can see us progressing if we take he set backs in the right way, but I can also make a pretty good case for being set in the bottom 4. It's not a foregone thing but what started out as a preseason with a bit of momentum has taken a few hits and needs to start turning positive to keep the players on the right path.
I think you on the money with your thinking. We have to make adversity our friend, and make a point and take a stand as a footy team and prove we are not perennial cellar dwellers.