THE common denominator of successful coaches

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Re: THE common denominator of successful coaches

Post: # 1986786Post Teflon »

Bowey Boy wrote: Mon 31 Oct 2022 10:54amLuck.
Is true
Here’s a question
IF Lyon gets St Kilda to a GF and we lose by under a kick
Has he done his job??
Is his main job to orchestrate a side to get the opportunity or
Is it all or nothing - win a Flag or he’s failed??


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Re: THE common denominator of successful coaches

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Depends on whether or not he "forgets" to play Steele in the 4th quarter.


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Re: THE common denominator of successful coaches

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He gets this list to a GF

he’s over achieved


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Re: THE common denominator of successful coaches

Post: # 1986801Post samoht »

B.M wrote: Mon 31 Oct 2022 12:09pm He gets this list to a GF

he’s over achieved
Well, before injuries mounted, getting to a GF felt like a possibility under Ratten??
We did beat Geelong on our way to 8-3.

"Raotten" luck got in the way.


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Re: THE common denominator of successful coaches

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samoht wrote: Mon 31 Oct 2022 12:30pm
B.M wrote: Mon 31 Oct 2022 12:09pm He gets this list to a GF

he’s over achieved
Well, before injuries mounted, getting to a GF felt like a possibility under Ratten??
We did beat Geelong on our way to 8-3.

"Raotten" luck got in the way.
Same thing in 2020. Ryder does his hamstring 1 minute before the final siren in our win against the Dogs.

Ben Long gets suspended in that final. Carlisle goes home to be with his partner for the birth of their child and Nathan Brown had already retired a month before the finals

We'd beaten the Tigs earlier in the year by close to 5 goals... 15-3 to 10-7...highlights below of our win in the home and away rounds

https://www.afl.com.au/video/458146/hig ... v-richmond


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Re: THE common denominator of successful coaches

Post: # 1986849Post spert »

Bowey Boy wrote: Mon 31 Oct 2022 10:54amLuck.
Mostly


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Re: THE common denominator of successful coaches

Post: # 1986936Post skeptic »

Scollop wrote: Tue 01 Nov 2022 2:57am
samoht wrote: Mon 31 Oct 2022 12:30pm
B.M wrote: Mon 31 Oct 2022 12:09pm He gets this list to a GF

he’s over achieved
Well, before injuries mounted, getting to a GF felt like a possibility under Ratten??
We did beat Geelong on our way to 8-3.

"Raotten" luck got in the way.
Same thing in 2020. Ryder does his hamstring 1 minute before the final siren in our win against the Dogs.

Ben Long gets suspended in that final. Carlisle goes home to be with his partner for the birth of their child and Nathan Brown had already retired a month before the finals

We'd beaten the Tigs earlier in the year by close to 5 goals... 15-3 to 10-7...highlights below of our win in the home and away rounds

https://www.afl.com.au/video/458146/hig ... v-richmond
Yeah but apparently no one was taking that seriously… all the players and officials are constantly talking about it. Just don’t ask who they are or what they said.


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Re: THE common denominator of successful coaches

Post: # 1986938Post Vortex »

skeptic wrote: Tue 01 Nov 2022 10:12pm
Scollop wrote: Tue 01 Nov 2022 2:57am
samoht wrote: Mon 31 Oct 2022 12:30pm
B.M wrote: Mon 31 Oct 2022 12:09pm He gets this list to a GF

he’s over achieved
Well, before injuries mounted, getting to a GF felt like a possibility under Ratten??
We did beat Geelong on our way to 8-3.

"Raotten" luck got in the way.
Same thing in 2020. Ryder does his hamstring 1 minute before the final siren in our win against the Dogs.

Ben Long gets suspended in that final. Carlisle goes home to be with his partner for the birth of their child and Nathan Brown had already retired a month before the finals

We'd beaten the Tigs earlier in the year by close to 5 goals... 15-3 to 10-7...highlights below of our win in the home and away rounds

https://www.afl.com.au/video/458146/hig ... v-richmond
Yeah but apparently no one was taking that seriously… all the players and officials are constantly talking about it. Just don’t ask who they are or what they said.
So what's your theory as to why we didn't progress to become a sustained top 4 side after 2020, I mean we won a final right, why did it all go south from there, let me guess was it because another coach didn't give your pet youngins a "run of games" after showing good form in a crap VFL side. Naughty coach.


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Re: THE common denominator of successful coaches

Post: # 1986939Post Scollop »

Vortex wrote: Wed 02 Nov 2022 5:07am
skeptic wrote: Tue 01 Nov 2022 10:12pm
Scollop wrote: Tue 01 Nov 2022 2:57am
samoht wrote: Mon 31 Oct 2022 12:30pm
B.M wrote: Mon 31 Oct 2022 12:09pm He gets this list to a GF

he’s over achieved
Well, before injuries mounted, getting to a GF felt like a possibility under Ratten??
We did beat Geelong on our way to 8-3.

"Raotten" luck got in the way.
Same thing in 2020. Ryder does his hamstring 1 minute before the final siren in our win against the Dogs.

Ben Long gets suspended in that final. Carlisle goes home to be with his partner for the birth of their child and Nathan Brown had already retired a month before the finals

We'd beaten the Tigs earlier in the year by close to 5 goals... 15-3 to 10-7...highlights below of our win in the home and away rounds

https://www.afl.com.au/video/458146/hig ... v-richmond
Yeah but apparently no one was taking that seriously… all the players and officials are constantly talking about it. Just don’t ask who they are or what they said.
So what's your theory as to why we didn't progress to become a sustained top 4 side after 2020, I mean we won a final right, why did it all go south from there, let me guess was it because another coach didn't give your pet youngins a "run of games" after showing good form in a crap VFL side. Naughty coach.
This is your post in this link; http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php? ... l#p1886158

I think it goes a long way to answering your questions above

Why do you always think it’s the youngins who are letting us down? Maybe it was the senior players including James Frawley, Shaun McKernan and all the other imports like Higgins and Brad Crouch in their first year!!

Take note that this is your personal view in the link above ….from Jan 2021 with your prediction for that year. How did Hill and Hannas go in 2021?

We all remember the heat and media attention on Hill that year and it prompted the coach and Lethlean to come out in the media in support of our highest paid player. He was also being maligned (and that’s a nice way of putting it) by many on this forum during early 2021 after he put in some dismal performances

Ross the Boss and others were also in support of Brad in 2021 and apparently it was everyone else's fault in the team that he wasn’t going so well

Also take note of the Thread Heading and the comments by various posters about Brad Hill leading into our season 2021. I always blamed Lethlean for the Hill trade, but maybe my vitriol and everyone elses should be pointed in another direction….What I’d like to know … if any one has any inside word….Was it Ratts who was the catalyst for Hill to come to St Kilda? If yes…how does Ratts become accountable for that deal but Lethlean gets off scott free for the recruitment of Hannebery?


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Re: THE common denominator of successful coaches

Post: # 1986944Post B.M »

Lethlean or Ratten have never been the list manager


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Re: THE common denominator of successful coaches

Post: # 1986951Post Vortex »

Scollop wrote: Wed 02 Nov 2022 7:08am
Vortex wrote: Wed 02 Nov 2022 5:07am
skeptic wrote: Tue 01 Nov 2022 10:12pm
Scollop wrote: Tue 01 Nov 2022 2:57am
samoht wrote: Mon 31 Oct 2022 12:30pm
B.M wrote: Mon 31 Oct 2022 12:09pm He gets this list to a GF

he’s over achieved
Well, before injuries mounted, getting to a GF felt like a possibility under Ratten??
We did beat Geelong on our way to 8-3.

"Raotten" luck got in the way.
Same thing in 2020. Ryder does his hamstring 1 minute before the final siren in our win against the Dogs.

Ben Long gets suspended in that final. Carlisle goes home to be with his partner for the birth of their child and Nathan Brown had already retired a month before the finals

We'd beaten the Tigs earlier in the year by close to 5 goals... 15-3 to 10-7...highlights below of our win in the home and away rounds

https://www.afl.com.au/video/458146/hig ... v-richmond
Yeah but apparently no one was taking that seriously… all the players and officials are constantly talking about it. Just don’t ask who they are or what they said.
So what's your theory as to why we didn't progress to become a sustained top 4 side after 2020, I mean we won a final right, why did it all go south from there, let me guess was it because another coach didn't give your pet youngins a "run of games" after showing good form in a crap VFL side. Naughty coach.
This is your post in this link; http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php? ... l#p1886158

I think it goes a long way to answering your questions above

Why do you always think it’s the youngins who are letting us down? Maybe it was the senior players including James Frawley, Shaun McKernan and all the other imports like Higgins and Brad Crouch in their first year!!

Take note that this is your personal view in the link above ….from Jan 2021 with your prediction for that year. How did Hill and Hannas go in 2021?

We all remember the heat and media attention on Hill that year and it prompted the coach and Lethlean to come out in the media in support of our highest paid player. He was also being maligned (and that’s a nice way of putting it) by many on this forum during early 2021 after he put in some dismal performances

Ross the Boss and others were also in support of Brad in 2021 and apparently it was everyone else's fault in the team that he wasn’t going so well

Also take note of the Thread Heading and the comments by various posters about Brad Hill leading into our season 2021. I always blamed Lethlean for the Hill trade, but maybe my vitriol and everyone elses should be pointed in another direction….What I’d like to know … if any one has any inside word….Was it Ratts who was the catalyst for Hill to come to St Kilda? If yes…how does Ratts become accountable for that deal but Lethlean gets off scott free for the recruitment of Hannebery?
Watching without the sound up really focuses your attention aye nutgrass.


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Re: THE common denominator of successful coaches

Post: # 1986987Post Scollop »

Pissweak response from a fraud and a shitthouse judge of AFL teams and AFL players

Look at what you wrote in Jan 2021. You thought we were a contender for 2021 and 2022...or at least capable of repeating the success of 2020

You did take some insurance by claiming our chances were dependent on whether Hannabery and Hill could play significant roles

Hannas has never been a significant player for us and was NOT the reason we made finals in 2020.

Hill is still with us, yet you are now claiming the Saints need a rebuild.

You have nfi


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Re: THE common denominator of successful coaches

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Re: THE common denominator of successful coaches

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http://saintsational.net/viewtopic.php? ... l#p1886158
Cross your fingers and whatever else that we avoid the injury curse over the next few seasons becuase this list is a really good one with geniune bonafide star quality on every line. I reckon you could mount a strongish argument that this list is better than the one between 2000 and 2011.
Vortex is a good judge of footy because he watches on t.v with the sound turned up. He listens and learns from the expert commentary teams with BT, Darcy, The drain Pipe and all the special comments guys like Cam Mooney and Ben Dixon and Cameron Ling


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