Tonight's AGM

[Eastern]

Did Westaway thank the previous board?

No
He made no reference to the prev board, other than referring to Gdanski and Levin who were re-elected after serving on the prev board.

But by the same token he didn't criticise the prev board.

To me that was a smart move !!

[Enrico_Misso]

Ross Lyon
- conscious that he did not deliver on his promises when he spoke at last years AGM

What were these promises? I don't recall there being much said about it at the time.

At last years AGM, a pleasant Sunday morning chaired by a relaxed and comfortable Rod Butterss, Ross talked up our chances of doing well in 2007.
I cant recall his exact words.
(Dig out the thread from last Jan if you can find it).
But he obviously felt he had overstated things, and apologised tonight for that.

But everything he said tonight was spoken with thought and passion.
Just exuded the impression that he knows what he wants and how to get it.

Was particularly frank that we have modified our game plan.
Emphasised moving it quick down the corridor.
And they have been measuring that.

I feel this is linked with finally having two ruckman that can win possession.
then the aim is move is down the corridor as quick as possible.
And try to score more goals inside 30 metres from goal (ie easy ones).

To me that is fantastic.
Hopefully that means much less of that "chip it around till something happens" style of play that we have all grown to hate.

Quick and direct football - WAY TO GO

[The Peanut]

Incredible report 'Enrico_Misso'

[saintbrat]

so I am assuming all nominated were declared elected- was there any further explanation of the changes to original FF nominees?

Thanks again enricomisso and raven.

[Enrico_Misso]

First part of my report .......
- retirements Thommo, M Clarke, Fraser

Brett Voss?

Yes sorry Snakeman66.
Archie did in fact mention Vossy
(will edit him in)

[Raven]

I was particularly impressed that Ross Lyon had no notes for his address, he simply spoke with passion and everything he said seemed very straight forward and genuine. It was exhilarating.

[Enrico_Misso]

Poor old Archie, it seemed like most of the questions were directed at him (not on purpose) but he's a great public speaker and he handled them all beautifully. Greg seems to say 'right' a lot when he speaks, even when it's not as appropriate.

Right
.... pause
Right

Perhaps he should change his name to Greg Rightaway

And agree, Archie was the star.
Looked a bit uncomfortable last year.
But tonight he was in total control.
I thought his explanations about
- why the Vodaphone thing fell through
- and why the Moorabbin development fell through were very informative
Though I feel this information should have been communicated to us months ago.

Didn't like the way he, and GW and Ross Levin alluded to the inevitable expansion of the AFL.
As per other threads I think that would be a disastrous move.
And disappointed that our club wouldn't canvass our opinions and fight against it.
Or is it they are too afraid to fall out of favour with the AFL because we all know what happens to clubs that don't toe the line - crappy draws and shabby treatment ???

[Enrico_Misso]

so I am assuming all nominated were declared elected- was there any further explanation of the changes to original FF nominees?

Thanks again enricomisso and raven.

Yes Saintbrat.
Simon Grant announced before all 4 motions that he had 8,000 proxy votes supporting the chairman that he would direct to supporting the motion, so it was all a formality.

He did note that one proxy vote was directed against the Constitutional amendments.
And two proxies were against the new auditors

Good point Saintbrat about the original FF proposed board.
I recall there was some lady who was going to be on their board.

What happened to her ?

[The Peanut]

...
Didn't like the way he, and GW and Ross Levin alluded to the inevitable expansion of the AFL.
As per other threads I think that would be a disastrous move.
And disappointed that our club wouldn't canvass our opinions and fight against it.
Or is it they are too afraid to fall out of favour with the AFL because we all know what happens to clubs that don't toe the line - crappy draws and shabby treatment ???

... I think you have hit the nail on the head there ... 'The AFL don't love us but they like us' or something very similar Archie said

[hellorocky]

Any new life members announced?

And were Burkie and Thommo in attendance, as new board members?

Thanks heaps E M for a wonderful report, almost like I was there!

[chook23]

Q) Why did the Moorabbin development fail ?
AF - worked on it for many years
- Council did not support us on gaming machines
- final straw was a legislative change by Vic Govt that required local Council to support our application

Interesting??

Bloody Labour govt.!!!

Everything in this world johnnies fault?? Surely!!



So not all Council fault!!!

[casey scorp]

Gee that's comprehensive EM, and faithfully transcribed. Well done.

Greg seems to say 'right' a lot when he speaks, even when it's not as appropriate.

I noted the same thing.

I think it is when he anticipates, or has experienced in the past, a reaction against the point he is making.

As in.... this is how it is. Right!

I think it is a nervous response when emphasising his view in such circumstances.

[Enrico_Misso]

Any new life members announced?

And were Burkie and Thommo in attendance, as new board members?

Thanks heaps E M for a wonderful report, almost like I was there!

Strangely there were no new life members announced.
But to be a life member you either have to have served 10 years as a player, or be nominated.
So obviously no-one was nominated this year.

Is Ken Wiffen a life member ?
(I suspect he is).

In terms of NB and AT.
The Board sat on the stage in two groups of 4

Bourkey at the end to the left
Then Gdanski, Levin and Simon Grant.

On the RHS was Greg "Right" Westaway, Archie, the Finance guy, and Thommo was on the far right, as far away from Bourkie as possible !

[casey scorp]

So not all Council fault!!!

The implication was though that the Council could use the changes to ultimately still frustate the project in 12 months time. So, I think AF was still placing the blame squarely on the Council.

[chook23]

So not all Council fault!!!

The implication was though that the Council could use the changes to ultimately still frustate the project in 12 months time. So, I think AF was still placing the blame squarely on the Council.

ah but if the change not made......

anyway

great report EM

[stinger]

Ross Lyon
Arrived in his shorts straight from training.
Spoke really well and confidently

- we are all out to win on Sat night
- Ball/Hayes will be graduated more game time
- conscious that he did not deliver on his promises when he spoke at last years AGM
- Nick speech at the B&F demanding total commitment is a turning point
- resources are now much improved
- new game plan and structure
- concentrating on forward pressure, and quick movement up the central corridor
- goals kicked via the corridor are up 20%
- similarly aiming for more goals kicked from within 30 metres
- Schneider and C Jones add to forward pressure
- King and Gardiner give improvement in rucks
- C Gardiner has been good
- lack of youth when he arrived apart from Gilbert
- now Armitage, Geary, Allen, Van R, Miles
- Greg Hutchinson and Danny Sexton singled out for praise
- we are much fitter
- "Million miles ahead of last year"
- ability to run and compete
- total commitment
- weight of numbers to the ball
- NAB cup hasn't been about Riewoldt and Dal Santo, but rather Armitage, Gilbert, the Clarkes
- Sat night will pretty much be the Round 1 team
- Max will play
- will manage game time to avoid soft tissue problems
- Matt Maguire is an inspiration - he is 300% better than last year
- Goose will start at Casey in one week, back in side in Round 2/3
- Goddard will play for Casey this week - is in good shape
- game plan has been modified, come forward with purpose

this bloke might make a coach! also thanks enrico for your very informative report. once again saintsational and the internet smashes the newspapers

you can bet on or two enterprising journos have gotten his report all down and will run with it as their very own work......

[Enrico_Misso]

Q) Why did the Moorabbin development fail ?
AF - worked on it for many years
- Council did not support us on gaming machines
- final straw was a legislative change by Vic Govt that required local Council to support our application

Interesting??

Bloody Labour govt.!!!

Everything in this world johnnies fault?? Surely!!



So not all Council fault!!!

Well I think that proved to be the final straw.
Not because of the legislation per se.
But rather because the Council would not give a committment to go with whatever the gaming board decided.
Archie said that we told the Council that even if the Gaming Board only recommended 20 gaming machines (instead of the 80 odd we wanted) then the club would abide by that, but wanted the same assurance from the Council.
Titsy Popsy wouldn't agree to that.
So the risk was that 12 months may have been wasted.
And the revenue / interest costs of that would approach $1m.
And even if we appealed to the State Govt there is the complication that they as a part sponsor of our development proposal are then conflicted.

All too hard.
All too risky.

But a hell of a shame.
People like me won't go down to Frankston to watch training etc.
I have no connection with the place.

Unlike the stands at Moorabbin where I have expended so much emotional energy over so many years.
I'd have my ashes scattered on the Moorabbin oval because it means something to me.
Frankston means nothing.

[stinger]

Good point Saintbrat about the original FF proposed board.
I recall there was some lady who was going to be on their board.

What happened to her ?

with the amendments going througfh she would not have qualified ...wasn't a member last year....

[chook23]

Any question re why Catering lady ( cannot think of her name)
on FF ticket ....



understand she was not a member

also understand motion for resolution part of re rule changes etc
must be a member........

[Mr Magic]

It would seem that those on this forum who categoriacally blamed the previous President and his Board for losing our major Sponsor, Vodafone, got that one wrong?

Apparently the fault was all with the Vodafone Vic Manager who 'stopped' a 3 year extension that the National Office wanted to enter into, according to AF and the FF Board.

Given that AF knew about this back when the 'allegations' were being thrown around and chose to say nothing to correct the false impressions, ti would clearly point to him, a paid employee of the Club, choosing sides in a political battle.

It makes you wonder how many other negative things that were levelled against RB and that Board were just 'political warfare'?

But then, those who were 'baying for blood' back then will just probably ignore this revelation as an 'acceptable untruth' used to oust an 'unacceptable Board'.

Not that the Westaway Board haven't so far done a good job in their own right. he

[The Peanut]

Q) Why did the Moorabbin development fail ?
AF - worked on it for many years
- Council did not support us on gaming machines
- final straw was a legislative change by Vic Govt that required local Council to support our application
... So not all Council fault!!!

My understanding of this was
(1) the changes of legislation required local government support for gaming machines
(2) The club consequently held meetings with the local Government who would not guarantee us not losing machines
(3) The State Government were to provide a considerable contribution to the project.

This means we would be required to ask the State Government to over-ride a local Government decision in a climate where the general community are actively debating the social worthiness of gaming machines. - The outcome screams of political suicide for any Government and a very risky move for the club.

[stinger]

It would seem that those on this forum who categoriacally blamed the previous President and his Board for losing our major Sponsor, Vodafone, got that one wrong?

Apparently the fault was all with the Vodafone Vic Manager who 'stopped' a 3 year extension that the National Office wanted to enter into, according to AF and the FF Board.

Given that AF knew about this back when the 'allegations' were being thrown around and chose to say nothing to correct the false impressions, ti would clearly point to him, a paid employee of the Club, choosing sides in a political battle.

It makes you wonder how many other negative things that were levelled against RB and that Board were just 'political warfare'?

But then, those who were 'baying for blood' back then will just probably ignore this revelation as an 'acceptable untruth' used to oust an 'unacceptable Board'.

Not that the Westaway Board haven't so far done a good job in their own right. he

i thought the facts were pretty well known......and well publicised at the time...i certainly was aware of what happened...as confirmed by archie tonight......and was pm'd to that effect.....

[Enrico_Misso]

Given that AF knew about this back when the 'allegations' were being thrown around and chose to say nothing to correct the false impressions, ti would clearly point to him, a paid employee of the Club, choosing sides in a political battle.

MM it was also interesting to hear Archie's response to the question criticising the experience of the current board and how they were only elected because they latched on to two heroes of the club.
Archie referred to how well the current board worked (as you would when they are your employer), and went on to say that the current board
"had their egos in check".

That might add weight to your conspiracy theory !

However I must say that in most things Archie seems to be performing very well. Though not being a "true" StKilda person I always worry that he doesn't fully appreciate the emotion and loyalty that supporters feel - to him it is just a business to try and run successfully.

[casey scorp]

Any question re why Catering lady ( cannot think of her name)
on FF ticket ....



understand she was not a member

also understand motion for resolution part of re rule changes etc
must be a member........

Dana Nelson, if I recall correctly.

I noted a single person (female) in the audience voted against the rule changes . Maybe it was Dana.

She didn't have much of a chance against 8,743 proxies "which will all be used to support the proposed rule changes" did she.

I wonder why she voted that way, whoever she was.

[Mr Magic]

It would seem that those on this forum who categoriacally blamed the previous President and his Board for losing our major Sponsor, Vodafone, got that one wrong?

Apparently the fault was all with the Vodafone Vic Manager who 'stopped' a 3 year extension that the National Office wanted to enter into, according to AF and the FF Board.

Given that AF knew about this back when the 'allegations' were being thrown around and chose to say nothing to correct the false impressions, ti would clearly point to him, a paid employee of the Club, choosing sides in a political battle.

It makes you wonder how many other negative things that were levelled against RB and that Board were just 'political warfare'?

But then, those who were 'baying for blood' back then will just probably ignore this revelation as an 'acceptable untruth' used to oust an 'unacceptable Board'.

Not that the Westaway Board haven't so far done a good job in their own right. he

i thought the facts were pretty well known......and well publicised at the time...i certainly was aware of what happened...as confirmed by archie tonight......and was pm'd to that effect.....

No, Stinger,
There were many posts in multiple threads 'blaming' the Club, Board and President over the loss of this sponsor. One Forum member posted almost exactly what AF announced tonight and was disbelieved.

Other than 'setting the record straight' I realize these revelations have little bearing on what is happening to our Club today, but I thought it was worthwhile pointing out that whilst the previous President and his Board were blamed for 'everything that was wrong in the world' at least on this item they were apparently not responsible.

Oh and BTW, they were roundly castigated for not getting the deal done with Kingston - seems that castigation was a little wrong also?

As I said earlier Stinger, just a little 'set the record straight'.