Offical Teams Round 10 - Here!!!

starsign · Post: # 577353Post **starsign** » Thu 29 May 2008 7:12pm

Isn't Minnie in the Victorian VFL team for this weekend?

Ralphy · Post: # 577354Post **Ralphy** » Thu 29 May 2008 7:12pm

starsign wrote:Isn't Minnie in the Victorian VFL team for this weekend?

i think he is actually

plugger66 · Post: # 577355Post **plugger66** » Thu 29 May 2008 7:13pm

Saint Bev wrote:
StSteven wrote:Charlie Gardiner.......why not. Did we waste a draft pick?
Charlie Gardiner came with King, so he didn't cost us anything.

Hope Armitage and Ferguson get in.

It actually did cost us something. People forget we couldnt draft someone because he took up a spot.

Mr Magic · Post: # 577356Post **Mr Magic** » Thu 29 May 2008 7:17pm

plugger66 wrote:
Saint Bev wrote:
StSteven wrote:Charlie Gardiner.......why not. Did we waste a draft pick?
Charlie Gardiner came with King, so he didn't cost us anything.

Hope Armitage and Ferguson get in.
It actually did cost us something. People forget we couldnt draft someone because he took up a spot.

But the pick would have been the second one we had after #90 (used on King) - The first one would have presumably been for Dempster (steak knives with Schneider for pick #26)

In theory he (Charlie Gardiner) would have been a draft pick somewhere between number 110 and 120?

plugger66 · Post: # 577359Post **plugger66** » Thu 29 May 2008 7:26pm

Mr Magic wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Saint Bev wrote:
StSteven wrote:Charlie Gardiner.......why not. Did we waste a draft pick?
Charlie Gardiner came with King, so he didn't cost us anything.

Hope Armitage and Ferguson get in.
It actually did cost us something. People forget we couldnt draft someone because he took up a spot.
But the pick would have been the second one we had after #90 (used on King) - The first one would have presumably been for Dempster (steak knives with Schneider for pick #26)

In theory he (Charlie Gardiner) would have been a draft pick somewhere between number 110 and 120?

No he wouldnt because they only picked about 60 players so at the most it would be 61.

st_Trav_ofWA · Thu 29 May 2008 7:28pm

Mr Magic wrote:
st_Trav_ofWA wrote:
ralphysaints35 wrote:who does everyone think wont be in the final teams?
my money would be on Ferg Gwilt and Geary being named emergancy's on sunday
I cannot believe that all 4 of King, Gardiner, Kosi and McEvoy will play, so one of them surely must be left out.

your prob right about that i didnt really look at the talls
i would say Gwilt Ferg and McEvoy to miss

LENNY LEADS THE WAY · Thu 29 May 2008 7:39pm

If he's ready let's play Mcevoy.

Lets unleash the beast.

Show em ur stuff Benny

saintsRrising · Thu 29 May 2008 7:44pm

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:white back interesting

He was out with back soreness last week.

Dees fans were predicting that he would be back this week.

mad saint guy · Thu 29 May 2008 7:47pm

B: Jason Blake, Max Hudghton, Sean Dempster
HB: Jason Gram, Sam Fisher, Brendon Goddard
C: Nick Dal Santo, Luke Ball, Leigh Montagna
HF: Adam Schneider, Nick Riewoldt, Clint Jones
F: Shane Birss, Justin Koschitzke, Stephen Milne
Foll: Steven King, Lenny Hayes, Robert Harvey
Int (from): Michael Gardiner, Jarryn Geary, Ben McEvoy, Andrew McQualter, Matthew Ferguson, David Armitage, James Gwilt

Blake, Dempster, Gram, Schneider, Jones and King all named on the ground...it would be nice to see these players at least get put under a little bit of pressure if they're going to be kept in the side after mediocre performances.

Weak selections which reek of a club in denial.

WinnersOnly · Thu 29 May 2008 7:48pm

StSteven wrote:Charlie Gardiner.......why not. Did we waste a draft pick?

Why does LYON seem to pidgeon hole his players so much. He has absolutely no ability to think outside the square...he is either very slow or exceptionally stubborn of both. To me GARDINER is a better option than BLAKE, as he can run without falling over, can hit a target and is a smarter footballer...

Another is GRAM who has been terrible down back this year but why not release him to a permanenty wing or HFF. Play Schneider in his role who has also been terrible up forward.

Eastern · Post: # 577382Post **Eastern** » Thu 29 May 2008 7:50pm

starsign wrote:Isn't Minnie in the Victorian VFL team for this weekend?

WAS !!

I think his elevation onto the primary list makes him ineligible !!

Mr Magic · Post: # 577383Post **Mr Magic** » Thu 29 May 2008 7:50pm

plugger66 wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Saint Bev wrote:
StSteven wrote:Charlie Gardiner.......why not. Did we waste a draft pick?
Charlie Gardiner came with King, so he didn't cost us anything.

Hope Armitage and Ferguson get in.
It actually did cost us something. People forget we couldnt draft someone because he took up a spot.
But the pick would have been the second one we had after #90 (used on King) - The first one would have presumably been for Dempster (steak knives with Schneider for pick #26)

In theory he (Charlie Gardiner) would have been a draft pick somewhere between number 110 and 120?
No he wouldnt because they only picked about 60 players so at the most it would be 61.

Just checked - there were 69 players drafted in the National Draft with Adelaide taking the final pick #75. 6 clubs had passed prior to that pick (#75) not including us, so presumably we would have had to take Dempster and Gardiner with our next 2 picks after #75 - whatever they transpired to be.

Obviously all Clubs decided that they didn't want to draft any more players after pick #75 and either waited for the pre-season draft to fill out their lists or had already kept/drafted their full complememnt.

The fact is that Gardiner only ever cost us a pick at the end of the draft or at the end of the pre-season draft.

Ralphy · Post: # 577385Post **Ralphy** » Thu 29 May 2008 7:51pm

grammy should be played in the forward line.

JeffDunne · Post: # 577386Post **JeffDunne** » Thu 29 May 2008 7:53pm

Why is Schneider & Dempster still in the team (even the 25 named)?

LTN16 · Post: # 577390Post **LTN16** » Thu 29 May 2008 7:55pm

If Gwilt comes in he will be played on a wing not full back.

I hope big Ben McEvoy doe's make his debut but I think either Gardiner or King would have to be out for this to happen.

Ferguson kicked 8 in a game a couple of weeks ago but what has he done since ? May be given a last chance.

McQualter was in superb form early in the year but has dropped off. May be also given a last chance to show what he has at the top level.

bigcarl · Post: # 577393Post **bigcarl** » Thu 29 May 2008 7:55pm

JeffDunne wrote:Why is Schneider & Dempster still in the team (even the 25 named)?

agree. i haven't seen a lot to like about either of them yet. schneider skilled but too small. dempster a bit of a robot.

starsign · Post: # 577394Post **starsign** » Thu 29 May 2008 7:57pm

starsign wrote:
Isn't Minnie in the Victorian VFL team for this weekend?

WAS !!

I think his elevation onto the primary list makes him ineligible !!

Ok didn't think of that
otherwise he would be a bit p'd off if he sat out the Vic match and didn't get a gig Sunday

saintsRrising · Thu 29 May 2008 8:09pm

Mr Magic wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
Saint Bev wrote:
StSteven wrote:Charlie Gardiner.......why not. Did we waste a draft pick?
Charlie Gardiner came with King, so he didn't cost us anything.

Hope Armitage and Ferguson get in.
It actually did cost us something. People forget we couldnt draft someone because he took up a spot.
But the pick would have been the second one we had after #90 (used on King) - The first one would have presumably been for Dempster (steak knives with Schneider for pick #26)

In theory he (Charlie Gardiner) would have been a draft pick somewhere between number 110 and 120?
No he wouldnt because they only picked about 60 players so at the most it would be 61.
Just checked - there were 69 players drafted in the National Draft with Adelaide taking the final pick #75. 6 clubs had passed prior to that pick (#75) not including us, so presumably we would have had to take Dempster and Gardiner with our next 2 picks after #75 - whatever they transpired to be.

Obviously all Clubs decided that they didn't want to draft any more players after pick #75 and either waited for the pre-season draft to fill out their lists or had already kept/drafted their full complememnt.

The fact is that Gardiner only ever cost us a pick at the end of the draft or at the end of the pre-season draft.

The saints took Eljay at 70......so Gardiner and Demspter could have been instead picks 76 and 77.....

So that would make them less likely to have played this year than Eljay.......and as for the future....who knows this late in the draft..

Pick 69 was by freo for Kelper Bradley..

Pick 75 was by adelaide fora NSW Scholraship player (ie they could save this till last0...

So I think it is fair to say that by picks 76 and 77 that there was nota lot around.

Batnoe · Post: # 577410Post **Batnoe** » Thu 29 May 2008 8:14pm

our forward line is finally small and fast

might not be a bad thing

we have a lot of mids, to bring our tackling and pace which is good

Ferguson must be an in or we wouldnt have named the small forward line

bergsone · Post: # 577413Post **bergsone** » Thu 29 May 2008 8:20pm

LTN16 wrote:If Gwilt comes in he will be played on a wing not full back.

I hope big Ben McEvoy doe's make his debut but I think either Gardiner or King would have to be out for this to happen.

Ferguson kicked 8 in a game a couple of weeks ago but what has he done since ? May be given a last chance.

McQualter was in superb form early in the year but has dropped off. May be also given a last chance to show what he has at the top level.

Wasnt Ferguson played back half/mid field after kicking 8

saintspremiers · Thu 29 May 2008 8:21pm

JeffDunne wrote:Why is Schneider & Dempster still in the team (even the 25 named)?

not only that they aren't even on the bench, neither of them!

Typical farking Lyon, it's his love children, untouchables.

What message does it send the rest of the team?

Sure, they may do something this week, but geez, give them the arse for a week and send a rocket up them FFS!

starsign · Post: # 577416Post **starsign** » Thu 29 May 2008 8:25pm

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JeffDunne wrote:
Why is Schneider & Dempster still in the team (even the 25 named)?

agree. i haven't seen a lot to like about either of them yet. schneider skilled but too small. dempster a bit of a robot.

An intresting one to say the least!
I mentioned in an earlier thread speculating on the possible outs , that for RL to drop them this week would be tantamount to calling the ex Swans soft.......and I bet my lefty he wouldn't be game, as the media would have a feast!!

bergsone · Post: # 577423Post **bergsone** » Thu 29 May 2008 8:32pm

starsign wrote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

JeffDunne wrote:
Why is Schneider & Dempster still in the team (even the 25 named)?

agree. i haven't seen a lot to like about either of them yet. schneider skilled but too small. dempster a bit of a robot.
An intresting one to say the least!
I mentioned in an earlier thread speculating on the possible outs , that for RL to drop them this week would be tantamount to calling the ex Swans soft.......and I bet my lefty he wouldn't be game, as the media would have a feast!!

Spot on image the media,so the soft ones are the 2 dropped ,and whoever comes out of the rest from last weeks team

starsign · Post: # 577428Post **starsign** » Thu 29 May 2008 8:39pm

st_Trav_ofWA wrote:
white back interesting

He was out with back soreness last week.

Dees fans were predicting that he would be back this week.
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Love to see couple of our blokes go up and give him a few hard wacks on his back and say welcome back mate ....
so as to return the compliment payed out to Roo by the Melbourne-mongrels before the opening bounce at the MCG when he returned from serious shoulder injury

Anyone remember? and the Dees will be into us with the phisicality again Sunday I'll bet a quid!

cwrcyn · Post: # 577433Post **cwrcyn** » Thu 29 May 2008 8:45pm

Schneider has been our very worst player in three of our last four games. The fact that he is still in that team indicates a match committee that is far too conservative and unwilling to try players who are showing good enough form at VFL level.

If Schneider has a repeat performance of last week and the week before and still plays against the Dogs, then surely there can be no other conclusion to make than the coaching panel playing favourites over obvious logic.

In my view, Schneider is a WEAK by WEAK proposition.

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