I disagree. His record is too good to ignore. He should seriously be considerd for the Sandy coaching job.plugger66 wrote:I think his last 4 years tells us what is wrong with his resume.BigMart wrote:What exactly is wrong with this resume??
Player
Hawthorn FC 269 games
5 Premierships
5 Night Premierships
Club Captain
Best and Fairest
Dual Norm Smith Medallist
All Australian
Victorian State Rep
Hawthorn TOTC
Coaching
Geelong FC 1995-1999
116 games 65 wins (56%)
Adelaide FC 2000-2004
107 games 55 wins (51.5%)
Total 223 games 120 wins (53.5)
10 years of coaching experience
6 years in finals
1 grand final
Essendon Assistant (sheedy) 2006-2007
Port Melbourne FC
2008-2011
2 Grand Finals
Maybe 1 Premiership
Undefeated in 2011
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Does that mean he isn't now?Ross who? wrote:My point exactly!plugger66 wrote:
I think his last 4 years tells us what is wrong with his resume.
Plus he was never a top line, A grade coach
How he went all those years ago means pretty much f***-all to us. All that matters is how he would go with us now. This may just be his time. Or it may not.
I hope those who are making this choice aren't stupid enough to have a closed mind and preconceived ideas about anyone.
YOU GET WHAT YOU SETTLE FOR.
Id be pretty sure it isnt based on us morons otherwise we would have 30 coaches next year and 7 players.AnythingsPossibleSaints wrote:Does that mean he isn't now?Ross who? wrote:My point exactly!plugger66 wrote:I think his last 4 years tells us what is wrong with his resume.BigMart wrote:What exactly is wrong with this resume??
Player
Hawthorn FC 269 games
5 Premierships
5 Night Premierships
Club Captain
Best and Fairest
Dual Norm Smith Medallist
All Australian
Victorian State Rep
Hawthorn TOTC
Coach
Geelong FC 1995-1999
116 games 65 wins (56%)
Adelaide FC 2000-2004
107 games 55 wins (51.5%)
Total 223 games 120 wins (53.5)
10 years of coaching experience
6 years in finals
1 grand final
Essendon Assistant (sheedy) 2006-2007
Port Melbourne FC
2008-2011
2 Grand Finals
Maybe 1 Premiership
Undefeated in 2011
Plus he was never a top line, A grade coach
How he went all those years ago means pretty much f***-all to us. All that matters is how he would go with us now. This may just be his time. Or it may not.
I hope those who are making this choice aren't stupid enough to have a closed mind and preconceived ideas about anyone.
Nothing to embarrassed about....
Pointing out that the greatest coaches in the history of the game had poor periods....and then regenerated...
Matthews had a poor end at collingwood after taking them to glory, called it a day, missed 4 years, returned and won 3 premierships....
Parkin had several low periods......man could seriously coach
Barassi showed that even the greatest coach cant deliver with rubbish
Ayres has coached at over 50% after 10 years....not a poor record....and got a team into the big one...
Best coach in the vfl
Followed by
Gotch and fitzgerald
German is ok
Pointing out that the greatest coaches in the history of the game had poor periods....and then regenerated...
Matthews had a poor end at collingwood after taking them to glory, called it a day, missed 4 years, returned and won 3 premierships....
Parkin had several low periods......man could seriously coach
Barassi showed that even the greatest coach cant deliver with rubbish
Ayres has coached at over 50% after 10 years....not a poor record....and got a team into the big one...
Best coach in the vfl
Followed by
Gotch and fitzgerald
German is ok
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I didnt quote you so i was obviously talking to myself. I have no idea who is right or wrong in RL leaving and as such I dont think I have commented once on the rights or wrongs.BigMart wrote:Are you referring to me....if so, dont expect you to
Wish you would learn to use the quote function...
BTW
Whats your take on recent event p66 i suppose correct decisions were made by all, after all, we are not in the inner sanctum so we cant judge....
I think you mean me. I have plenty and express them as I have today but when people like you come on here and dress opinions up as fact luckily there a few who are smart enough to put you back in that little box you came out of. What would I know at all about the reasons of RL leaving? I am not involved with the club. Maybe you are and I have you wrong but I doubt you are now. They would have replaced someone like you.BigMart wrote:Fence sitter with no actual opinion.....just as i thought....
Just happy to flame others
Not the balls to put yourself out there....weak as piss...and typical..
You love to play the antogonist.....here's a thought
Have an original thought....
You dont know me, so you cant comment on me.....you dont have all the facts....
And who is smart enough.....are you making that call....are you able to judge everyone's intelligence now.....
You seem to speculate more than you think......and about people you never met....
But cannot speculate on issues in the public arena, and well reported events...generally because you dont want to believe negatives....
You cant even agree to obvious hindsight errors......
BTW.....the bloke who labelled you a knob before.....i am going to state the FACT that he is smart.....with 75% of other posters that get sick of your smug ramblings and devils advocate bulls***....
And who is smart enough.....are you making that call....are you able to judge everyone's intelligence now.....
You seem to speculate more than you think......and about people you never met....
But cannot speculate on issues in the public arena, and well reported events...generally because you dont want to believe negatives....
You cant even agree to obvious hindsight errors......
BTW.....the bloke who labelled you a knob before.....i am going to state the FACT that he is smart.....with 75% of other posters that get sick of your smug ramblings and devils advocate bulls***....
Didnt you read all the posts about your crap the other day or do you have a short term memory issue? The bloke who said I was a knob before was you and even if others said it why would I care. And who said I cant agree with hindsight errors? I just point out out morons who mention them. You are really one stange cat. And what did you say was your job again. I thought it was a school teacher? Very strange and getting weirder by the post.BigMart wrote:You dont know me, so you cant comment on me.....you dont have all the facts....
And who is smart enough.....are you making that call....are you able to judge everyone's intelligence now.....
You seem to speculate more than you think......and about people you never met....
But cannot speculate on issues in the public arena, and well reported events...generally because you dont want to believe negatives....
You cant even agree to obvious hindsight errors......
BTW.....the bloke who labelled you a knob before.....i am going to state the FACT that he is smart.....with 75% of other posters that get sick of your smug ramblings and devils advocate bulls***....
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You know I often wonder whether you two are in fact one person just making some kind of merry....plugger66 wrote:Didnt you read all the posts about your crap the other day or do you have a short term memory issue? The bloke who said I was a knob before was you and even if others said it why would I care. And who said I cant agree with hindsight errors? I just point out out morons who mention them. You are really one stange cat. And what did you say was your job again. I thought it was a school teacher? Very strange and getting weirder by the post.BigMart wrote:You dont know me, so you cant comment on me.....you dont have all the facts....
And who is smart enough.....are you making that call....are you able to judge everyone's intelligence now.....
You seem to speculate more than you think......and about people you never met....
But cannot speculate on issues in the public arena, and well reported events...generally because you dont want to believe negatives....
You cant even agree to obvious hindsight errors......
BTW.....the bloke who labelled you a knob before.....i am going to state the FACT that he is smart.....with 75% of other posters that get sick of your smug ramblings and devils advocate bulls***....
"The inches we need are everywhere around us. They're in every break in the game. Every minute, every second. On this team we fight for that inch. On this team we tear ourselves and everyone around us to pieces for that inch. We claw with our fingernails for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's gonna make the f***in' difference between winning and losing! Between living and dying!'
Not a cat....
What does my occupation have to do with anything..... You are a bit off also....
Do you even have one??
I picture you sitting in a recliner all day....eating pizza....refreshing every ten seconds...
Comic store guy comes to mind......possibly taller if you fell over...
Old, pompous......unfulfilled and unhappy man ...... But thats just my impression
Me, im pretty happy with where im at..... In most facets.... So your critique of me, carries little weight....
What does my occupation have to do with anything..... You are a bit off also....
Do you even have one??
I picture you sitting in a recliner all day....eating pizza....refreshing every ten seconds...
Comic store guy comes to mind......possibly taller if you fell over...
Old, pompous......unfulfilled and unhappy man ...... But thats just my impression
Me, im pretty happy with where im at..... In most facets.... So your critique of me, carries little weight....
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