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Re: What are the qualities of our coaching that people rate and respect?

Post: # 1779000Post sunsaint »

Myron Gaines wrote: Fri 22 Mar 2019 10:04pm
Jacks Back wrote: Fri 22 Mar 2019 9:52pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Fri 22 Mar 2019 9:34pm He has a good public image. Nothing about him is controversial. Safe. Good bloke. Etc.
I think he means football wise.
I couldn’t think of any.
And I would hazard a guess and say you don't have fox footy


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Post: # 1779004Post Cairnsman »

Aussie Jonestown wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 5:14pm
Cairnsman wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 3:50pm
I can confirm he is widely respected. Regarded as a good coach but does get things wrong. Who's perfect.
The worst performed coach in the history of the AFL still coaching because his contract was extended when it clearly should not have been.
He is now going into his sixth season as "coach" with the worst record in AFL history at around 33% win/loss ratio.

Alan Richardson is desperately trying to hold onto his gig as an AFL coach and decisions are being made for the short term at the expense of the longer term.
I firmly believe Richardson is the kryptonite that sucks the life and energy out of the playing group.
It must be so uninspiring listening to his monotone drone year in year out.
Knowing he is in the crosshairs would understandably compromise his decision making.
I also believe this uncertainty and fear around losing his job would energetically be effecting the playing group.
The players confidence and decision making, goal kicking and skill execution would be affected by having a coach in this precarious predicament permeating the whole environment of the football club.

I do not believe Alan Richardson is suited to being a senior coach.
IMHO, it's not in his DNA to be a leader of men.
His communication skills seem to be limited to trite cliche's and he seems to me to be a follower of trends and incapable of innovation.

After five years as senior coach with a 33% win loss ratio, it's an inditement on the competence of those charged with making decisions that he is still there going into a sixth season.
People have bemoaned and complained about there being a lack of leadership within the playing group.
After five seasons and six preseasons who is to blame for this?
Hey this is completey unrelated but were you part of the orange brigade all those years ago?


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Post: # 1779005Post Myron Gaines »

sunsaint wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 5:14pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Fri 22 Mar 2019 10:04pm
Jacks Back wrote: Fri 22 Mar 2019 9:52pm
Myron Gaines wrote: Fri 22 Mar 2019 9:34pm He has a good public image. Nothing about him is controversial. Safe. Good bloke. Etc.
I think he means football wise.
I couldn’t think of any.
And I would hazard a guess and say you don't have fox footy
I have fox footy. I was close to cancelling it when our coach was a regular guest.


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Post: # 1779009Post Aussie Jonestown »

Cairnsman wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 5:28pm Hey this is completey unrelated but were you part of the orange brigade all those years ago?
What is the orange brigade?


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Post: # 1779010Post Myron Gaines »

Aussie Jonestown wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 5:37pm
Cairnsman wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 5:28pm Hey this is completey unrelated but were you part of the orange brigade all those years ago?
What is the orange brigade?
The Giants cheer squad?


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Post: # 1779013Post GilsAuPair »

His coaching is strong, positive and pleasing.


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Post: # 1779031Post Joffa Burns »

Cairnsman wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 3:50pm
Joffa Burns wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 3:39pm
tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 1:04pm Richo is very highly respected by the majority of players.
This is an extremely broad statement but one that appears based on first hand account.

Would you be kind enough to elaborate?

Which players make the majority that highly respect Richo?

Which make up the minority who do not respect him highly?

Of the majority, what aspects of his coaching and him as a person do they highly respect?

Is it uniform qualities or is it different things per player?
I can confirm he is widely respected. Regarded as a good coach but does get things wrong. Who's perfect.
Thanks for the confirmation Cairnsman.

I request of you you the same referred to Ted.

Can you please provide some information or data to support this statement?

I personally would like some proof that God really fixed Sams mums cateracts.


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Post: # 1779036Post Yorkeys »

Look obviously there are plenty with vested interests that want AR to coach forever. But their interests are not Saint Kilda supporters interests. Winning games, developing players, being competitive, having a footy style that shows the application of intelligence above that of the average punter might be more specifically helpful than popularity with those working in the shelter of the club. I know so many lovely guys but wouldn't want them to coach and they know their limitations. Did SEN ask AR if he still thinks he is a good coach, and if so why. He is our version of Teresa May, but I concede we do have an Irish backstop in place.


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Post: # 1779044Post takeaway »

Yorkeys wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 8:10pm Look obviously there are plenty with vested interests that want AR to coach forever. But their interests are not Saint Kilda supporters interests. Winning games, developing players, being competitive, having a footy style that shows the application of intelligence above that of the average punter might be more specifically helpful than popularity with those working in the shelter of the club. I know so many lovely guys but wouldn't want them to coach and they know their limitations. Did SEN ask AR if he still thinks he is a good coach, and if so why. He is our version of Teresa May, but I concede we do have an Irish backstop in place.
Don't know where you get that from. Who?


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Post: # 1779047Post saynta »

Good question.


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Post: # 1779053Post Crossy66 »

takeaway wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 8:48pm
Yorkeys wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 8:10pm Look obviously there are plenty with vested interests that want AR to coach forever. But their interests are not Saint Kilda supporters interests. Winning games, developing players, being competitive, having a footy style that shows the application of intelligence above that of the average punter might be more specifically helpful than popularity with those working in the shelter of the club. I know so many lovely guys but wouldn't want them to coach and they know their limitations. Did SEN ask AR if he still thinks he is a good coach, and if so why. He is our version of Teresa May, but I concede we do have an Irish backstop in place.
Don't know where you get that from. Who?
I have a vested interest in seeing him being a premiership coach


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Post: # 1779065Post Jacks Back »

Crossy66 wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 9:57pm
takeaway wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 8:48pm
Yorkeys wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 8:10pm Look obviously there are plenty with vested interests that want AR to coach forever. But their interests are not Saint Kilda supporters interests. Winning games, developing players, being competitive, having a footy style that shows the application of intelligence above that of the average punter might be more specifically helpful than popularity with those working in the shelter of the club. I know so many lovely guys but wouldn't want them to coach and they know their limitations. Did SEN ask AR if he still thinks he is a good coach, and if so why. He is our version of Teresa May, but I concede we do have an Irish backstop in place.
Don't know where you get that from. Who?
I have a vested interest in seeing him being a premiership coach
I have an interesting vest.


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Vestees? CEO, Newnes, Lonie, Savage, Sinclair, Medical staff, recruiting staff, Board, Lethlean, Sexton, office staff, media liaison, boot studder, HR employment contracts officer, soft cap analysist, Paddy, Jack Bytel, every other Afl coach, high performance group, goal kicking coach, ruck coach, AFL HQ, Paul Roos , Dan Hannebury, Player Manager Communications Officer, most of Tasmania, Lord Vesty, guy who backed AR to hold worst coaching record ever over 3 or more seasons and works in the pokies section, lady that designed the annual report, club accountant, Harvard, Marvel Stadium cleaners.....


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Post: # 1779132Post Joffa Burns »

tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 1:04pm Richo is very highly respected by the majority of players.
Cairnsman wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 3:50pm I can confirm he is widely respected. Regarded as a good coach but does get things wrong. Who's perfect.

Thanks again guys for the inside view from the players perspective.

You might have missed my previous questions so I thought I’d put it forward again.

I’d love to know what in particular the majority of players respect about Richo and who makes up that group.

Of the minority who don’t highly respect him what are their issues and how is the coach working through these?


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No idea about player opinions but one other quality I'd mention is the one he's currently getting bagged for - honesty. If I was playing for him I'd be very pleased to be able to believe what he was telling me and not have to second-guess it all.

Nothing worse than a boss who, instead of saying what he really thinks, keeps coming at it different ways to see what happens to press the right buttons.


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tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 1:04pm Richo is very highly respected by the majority of players.
Cairnsman wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 3:50pm I can confirm he is widely respected. Regarded as a good coach but does get things wrong. Who's perfect.

Thanks again guys for the inside view from the players perspective.

You might have missed my previous questions so I thought I’d put it forward again.

I’d love to know what in particular the majority of players respect about Richo and who makes up that group.

Of the minority who don’t highly respect him what are their issues and how is the coach working through these?


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Post: # 1779297Post tedtheodorelogan2018 »

Because I know that and I won't say how.


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Post: # 1779300Post GilsAuPair »

tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2019 4:06pm Because I know that and I won't say how.
PM from tony74?
Did he conduct an anonymous survey on the list?


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Negative. Tony has never sent me a PM and show some respect for a genuine insider that shows little bias. Thank you.


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tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2019 4:06pm Because I know that and I won't say how.
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tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Sun 24 Mar 2019 4:06pm Because I know that and I won't say how.
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Damien Barrett?


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Selecting Jack Steven today, coz otherwise we would have lost?


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Post: # 1779680Post Shaggy »

GilsAuPair wrote: Sat 23 Mar 2019 5:04am
Shaggy wrote: Fri 22 Mar 2019 11:03pm We really bombed last year and yet our key players stayed.

When Carlton bombed under Malthouse players ran despite Malthouse being a multiple flag coach.

There is a real relationship and trust between coach and players at the Saints which is so important to success.

I really do not care about short term failure. It creates change and hunger.

Relationship between Richo and the players is key and my understanding is we have it in spades.
Name one good player who ran from Carlton in 2015?????
Just one.
Gibbs left after 2016 which was Bolton's first year.


This makes no sense. Players stay at bottom 5 clubs because they get paid well. If they went to a top 5 club they would be paid less.
This is simply a fact.
May and Lynch left bottom ranked clubs in 2018. In 2017 it was Gibbs, Ablett and Saad. Money is always only a part of the story.

Steven, Billings, Gresham and Acres were heavily chased in the off season. They have all stayed.

Very good players left Carlton under Malthouse, Lions under Voss and Melbourne under Neeld. Those clubs imploded.

Currently it is only a minority of our supporter base who have imploded.


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