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Re: Brad Hill

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tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Wed 24 Jul 2019 10:38pm he is only 26 and a gun wingman.
Yes and Yes

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tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Wed 24 Jul 2019 10:38pm Not worth a 1st. A 2nd rounder would do it.
See point 1/


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Re: Brad Hill

Post: # 1810259Post tedtheodorelogan2018 »

And? Your point?

Hill is not worth our 1st pick which will be top 8. Maybe a pick around 20-25 though.


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Re: Brad Hill

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tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Wed 24 Jul 2019 11:39pm And? Your point?

Hill is not worth our 1st pick which will be top 8. Maybe a pick around 20-25 though.
Hill is worth what he is worth and not just you want to low ball with. We do't currently have a second or third rounder anyway.


So if our pick is 3-8 then you have to think about how we get our "change".


A number of people think he is worth say pick 10-15.

So if we have 8 we could trade it to Freo and they then also give us a pick back.

Or we trade Acres to them and a late pick.

Or we get both Hill and Langdon and give Freo some later picks or a player..


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Re: Brad Hill

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outside66 wrote: Wed 24 Jul 2019 11:09am Exactly what we need. Ed Langdon apparently want's out as well plus Stephen Hill is an unrestricted FA. I reckon a first round pick for the two plus a future second perhaps would get it done and get Stephen Hill as a FA.
Forget Ed, lets go for a range of Hills - Brad and Stephen.
But why stop there - Benny is a top run and chase man with great stamina.


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Enrico_Misso wrote: Thu 25 Jul 2019 1:04am
outside66 wrote: Wed 24 Jul 2019 11:09am Exactly what we need. Ed Langdon apparently want's out as well plus Stephen Hill is an unrestricted FA. I reckon a first round pick for the two plus a future second perhaps would get it done and get Stephen Hill as a FA.
Forget Ed, lets go for a range of Hills - Brad and Stephen.
But why stop there - Benny is a top run and chase man with great stamina.
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Re: Brad Hill

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Enrico_Misso wrote: Thu 25 Jul 2019 1:04am
outside66 wrote: Wed 24 Jul 2019 11:09am Exactly what we need. Ed Langdon apparently want's out as well plus Stephen Hill is an unrestricted FA. I reckon a first round pick for the two plus a future second perhaps would get it done and get Stephen Hill as a FA.
Forget Ed, lets go for a range of Hills - Brad and Stephen.
But why stop there - Benny is a top run and chase man with great stamina.
Good pick up. Benny has been doing circle work flat out for thirty years straight. That's what I call a tank.


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Re: Brad Hill

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Sainter_Dad wrote: Wed 24 Jul 2019 1:09pm
To the top wrote: Wed 24 Jul 2019 12:56pm Why the hell would you ever consider trading Acres?
Have you not heard - he is lazy :wink:
If Blake doesn't win the B&F next year, I'll eat my hat :wink:


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Re: Brad Hill

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B.M wrote: Wed 24 Jul 2019 8:04pm Getting rid of our whipping boys or rubbish is not going to land us an A Grade wingman

Seb Ross, finished top 2 in the last three best & fairests, winning in 2017. Apparently he is not as good as Acres, who is yet to finish in the top 10, and won’t this year.
I could have finnished top 3 in our B&F last two years, and I'm 55 :)

Brad Hill is exactly what we need, but will be very difficult to get. Hopefully someone smarter than a 55YO B&F podium prospect can get it done

FWIW I am regularly critical of Seb's kicking, and it's usually because he doesn't look first. If he can start to play more like last week, he'll be a star. The irony is, a Brad Hill working along side Seb could enable this


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Re: Brad Hill

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tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Wed 24 Jul 2019 11:39pm And? Your point?

Hill is not worth our 1st pick which will be top 8. Maybe a pick around 20-25 though.

saintsRrising wrote: Thu 25 Jul 2019 12:42am
A number of people think he is worth say pick 10-15.


Noticed on afl.com.au today where they are estimating players trading value:
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-25/ ... de-targets

BRADLEY HILL (FREMANTLE)

Draft picks: Mid-to-late first-round pick
Value on open market: $700,000-800,000 per season


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Re: Brad Hill

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Maybe we could give 1st round pick for hill and freo second round pick?


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Next years 2nd rounder might do it or a swap of picks this year.

Offer Hill a 5 year contract with a 6th year trigger clause at 750-800k a season. It will set him up for life and his missus will be back in Melbourne.


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Re: Brad Hill

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Stupid to think a second round pick will get it done.

He’s a gun


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Re: Brad Hill

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tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Thu 25 Jul 2019 2:30pm Next years 2nd rounder might do it or a swap of picks this year.

Offer Hill a 5 year contract with a 6th year trigger clause at 750-800k a season. It will set him up for life and his missus will be back in Melbourne.
Why is any of the above relevant?

Surely that’s all already agreed and ready to be singed since Hill has us atop his destination list.
tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Wed 10 Jul 2019 1:38pm We are top of Brad Hill's list atm.
You don’t think he’s on that kind of coin now when lured from Hawthorn?

Lastly if you had any idea about Hills position you’d be aware his manager has alerted a VIC club that both brothers could be lured to VIC for a shot at a flag.

Saints are no hope of getting Hill.

Remember when you wrote we were in the box seat for McGovern?


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B.M wrote: Thu 25 Jul 2019 2:39pm Stupid to think a second round pick will get it done.

He’s a gun
How about we give them our 1st rounder next year and we get back their 2nd rounder this year?


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Re: Brad Hill

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tedtheodorelogan2018 wrote: Thu 25 Jul 2019 3:23pm
B.M wrote: Thu 25 Jul 2019 2:39pm Stupid to think a second round pick will get it done.

He’s a gun
How about we give them our 1st rounder next year and we get back their 2nd rounder this year?
Straight swap for Mayo, he’s a WA kid isn’t he?

Given we are top of Brad Hills list of destination clubs, we should just play hardball.

Stuff his contract, stuff the Dockers, we’re atop his list. Mayo or Hill stands out if footy for 12 months.


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Re: Brad Hill

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Offer next years second rounder for Brad and tell the dockers if they accept it we will offer a Godfather offer to Stephen Hill so they get a first rounder in compensation.


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Re: Brad Hill

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Hill deal should get done.
Let’s just say Gubby Allan and Hills manager have strong ties and he owes Gubby so we are in the box seat.
He has 3 premierships already it’s about $$$& security and we have more upside than people see hawks are in a precarious position with their list.
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Vazelos wrote: Thu 25 Jul 2019 11:23pm Hill deal should get done.
Let’s just say Gubby Allan and Hills manager have strong ties and he owes Gubby so we are in the box seat.
He has 3 premierships already it’s about $$$& security and we have more upside than people see hawks are in a precarious position with their list.
Like what I'm hearing also Vaz.


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Re: Brad Hill

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Acres is a required player

I note where he is selected to line up on Saturday

When you are in rebuild phase as St Kilda are you do not trade your elite players out

In 2020 we start with King then others being available - and these kids are growing together from a difficult start so you work the bonding

Those on thin ice are those at the bottom of our List and a core of our experienced players who could not carry our kids post Fisher, Dempster, Riewoldt and Montagna - Steven excepted because he was winning B&F’s


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I think Acres is looking up. He is playing midfield. He is a different type of footballer. Must keep. Priority.


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SinCitySainter wrote: Thu 25 Jul 2019 10:48pm Offer next years second rounder for Brad and tell the dockers if they accept it we will offer a Godfather offer to Stephen Hill so they get a first rounder in compensation.
Now you are talking, that is exactly what one Melbourne club is proposing along with their first round pick.
The brothers are gettable but it needs to be a club with a tilt at a flag in 2020.

Saints no chance, unfortunately :cry:


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Re: Brad Hill

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Joffa Burns wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2019 2:06pm
Now you are talking, that is exactly what one Melbourne club is proposing along with their first round pick.
The brothers are gettable but it needs to be a club with a tilt at a flag in 2020.

Saints no chance, unfortunately :cry:

I do not believe that there is a club that has all those criteria:
- Can pay Hill lots of money
- Can pay his brother enough over a long enough (it would have to be a many year deal) to generate a first round FA pick
- Is a genuine crack at at the flag next year.

And no they cannot just pay more to the brother than Brad as the AFL would go them for draft tampering.


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Who says we are not a flag chance in 2020. Not I.

We stayed with flag favourites Geelong for 3/4 ans were in front at 1/2 time with half a side.


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Re: Brad Hill

Post: # 1810608Post saintbob »

How about Steven to Geelong, Kelly to Freo and Hill to us.
Everyone’s a winner in that deal


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Re: Brad Hill

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saynta wrote: Fri 26 Jul 2019 3:17pm Who says we are not a flag chance in 2020. Not I.

We stayed with flag favourites Geelong for 3/4 ans were in front at 1/2 time with half a side.
Whilst flag chance may be extreme, we have the nucleus of a very good team.
We address a few glaring list concerns
End up with a decent coach
Have a better year for injuries

Would certainly agree that we could give it a real shake next year


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