Yeah, a prick. Only decent game he ever played.
Cowboy would have been handy in that game. He would have knocked that halfwit Jarman out.
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Yeah, a prick. Only decent game he ever played.
heaven help us If Modra played
Had to read that twice.
Yeah, I did. Amended it using my laptop. Don't know why amendment didn't stick.
Alves made some strategic blunders when it was clear the momentum in the match was shifting and how it was shifting.st.byron wrote: ↑Thu 02 Feb 2023 11:52am What critical mistake did he make game day? I remember the crap personal issues in the week leading up to the GF, but can't remember the critical mistake. I do remember sitting there glum faced whilst Jarman went mental in the last QTR and the funereal walk down Brunton Ave afterwards.
All fair. But the real genius was the movement of the ball from defence to attack.Killa wrote: ↑Thu 02 Feb 2023 12:34pm The loss of Everitt and Vidovic was crucial.
Adelaide has Rehn, BOG and who fed the mids eventually allowing for the last quarter and Jarman (with a question as to Shanahan being the match up, Jarman just too mobile in the face of Rehn's dominance and the incoming ball)
Both Ricciuto & Modra were AA in 97 and missed the GF along with a couple of other handy players I can’t recall.
Spot on FireyThe Fireman wrote: ↑Wed 01 Feb 2023 4:17pm Well I’m so glad RTB is in charge now. He’ll whip these boys into shape
Can’t imagine how far they would have dropped if we hadn’t made the big change
Who is boofhead?
Big bad Barry Hall.shanegrambeau wrote: ↑Fri 03 Feb 2023 12:41amWho is boofhead?
Heatley?
That poster?
That was the death knell for me...and we were still ahead!
I will never forget that women's face in the crowd. Saints fan. She looked looked she heard some terrible news after the camera panned onto her after that poster.
Regarding the changes in training - the most telling thing from Cal Willie's presser that Saynta posted a link to yesterday was a reference he made - about half way through - to everyone having buy in and being on the same page. Next sentence he said there was division in the group previously. A telling reference to the dysfunction in the coaching group and players in the last half of last year. We were a house divided and we played like it.Teflon wrote: ↑Thu 02 Feb 2023 11:05pmSpot on FireyThe Fireman wrote: ↑Wed 01 Feb 2023 4:17pm Well I’m so glad RTB is in charge now. He’ll whip these boys into shape
Can’t imagine how far they would have dropped if we hadn’t made the big change
Below from Stav on BF articulates the shift at the club already - re skills we need to
1. Train under that intense pressure to improve it
2. Develop players where we can to improve
3. Recruit players with the right skill attributes
It’s why I do hope guys like Connolly make it….has natural skill …..needs to learn how to apply those consistently at top levels
Stav BF
There are probably upwards of 10 posters on here - who have all been.
And we have all said the same thing.
It’s a completely different place.
Those of us thst have managed to talk to players - all the same.
They all say it’s been bloody tough. Harder then they imagined, that they are learning so much during the video sessions and during training itself - but they all are enjoying being at the Moorabbin now.
I got told from reliable source in 1998 that Alves left the prelim at 3/4 time with the game plan set for the WB. 3/4 time Ellen goes forward as does Jarman and panic calls were made after the game to what happened. Combined with a spray at half time despite being in front to a group which was fragile didnt help and then the injuries to 2 ruckmen and the situations with Loewe and Winmar, Keogh who had been impact off the bench having to start on due to a starting Mid vomiting, it was a perfect stormGhost Like wrote: ↑Thu 02 Feb 2023 6:14pm Forget the losses of players...what Stan failed with was his plan for Jarman and his instruction to those who should have offered more protection to what Harvey endured.
Let's face it, Jarman to full forward was not a surprise tactic. Shanahan was having a horrible day well before he picked up Jarman.
People talk of coaches not having a Plan B. Stan had a week to work out plan B.
Loewe, Winmar & injuries to key players were all out of Stan's control. Adelaide had injuries as well, unfortunately the one to Modra worked in their favour. They should never have made the GF that year.
Around the 9 min 30 sec mark of that interview with Cal.st.byron wrote: ↑Fri 03 Feb 2023 10:41amRegarding the changes in training - the most telling thing from Cal Willie's presser that Saynta posted a link to yesterday was a reference he made - about half way through - to everyone having buy in and being on the same page. Next sentence he said there was division in the group previously. A telling reference to the dysfunction in the coaching group and players in the last half of last year. We were a house divided and we played like it.Teflon wrote: ↑Thu 02 Feb 2023 11:05pmSpot on FireyThe Fireman wrote: ↑Wed 01 Feb 2023 4:17pm Well I’m so glad RTB is in charge now. He’ll whip these boys into shape
Can’t imagine how far they would have dropped if we hadn’t made the big change
Below from Stav on BF articulates the shift at the club already - re skills we need to
1. Train under that intense pressure to improve it
2. Develop players where we can to improve
3. Recruit players with the right skill attributes
It’s why I do hope guys like Connolly make it….has natural skill …..needs to learn how to apply those consistently at top levels
Stav BF
There are probably upwards of 10 posters on here - who have all been.
And we have all said the same thing.
It’s a completely different place.
Those of us thst have managed to talk to players - all the same.
They all say it’s been bloody tough. Harder then they imagined, that they are learning so much during the video sessions and during training itself - but they all are enjoying being at the Moorabbin now.
There's not much more dispiriting than a workplace where management are dysfunctional and the place is consequently divided. Must be a breath of fresh air for all the players.
i sometimes get bored and switch off half way through pressers.st.byron wrote: ↑Fri 03 Feb 2023 10:41amRegarding the changes in training - the most telling thing from Cal Willie's presser that Saynta posted a link to yesterday was a reference he made - about half way through - to everyone having buy in and being on the same page. Next sentence he said there was division in the group previously. A telling reference to the dysfunction in the coaching group and players in the last half of last year. We were a house divided and we played like it.Teflon wrote: ↑Thu 02 Feb 2023 11:05pmSpot on FireyThe Fireman wrote: ↑Wed 01 Feb 2023 4:17pm Well I’m so glad RTB is in charge now. He’ll whip these boys into shape
Can’t imagine how far they would have dropped if we hadn’t made the big change
Below from Stav on BF articulates the shift at the club already - re skills we need to
1. Train under that intense pressure to improve it
2. Develop players where we can to improve
3. Recruit players with the right skill attributes
It’s why I do hope guys like Connolly make it….has natural skill …..needs to learn how to apply those consistently at top levels
Stav BF
There are probably upwards of 10 posters on here - who have all been.
And we have all said the same thing.
It’s a completely different place.
Those of us thst have managed to talk to players - all the same.
They all say it’s been bloody tough. Harder then they imagined, that they are learning so much during the video sessions and during training itself - but they all are enjoying being at the Moorabbin now.
There's not much more dispiriting than a workplace where management are dysfunctional and the place is consequently divided. Must be a breath of fresh air for all the players.
So you did call me a prick?
Ha ha. No, I called Shane Ellis a prick. And he is/was. Ruined a f****** good day.