List decisions

[plugger66]

A lot of teams have rucks.

Not a lot of teams have great ruck depth.

IMO we go three deep if we had to.

Billy and Hickey have currency.

I reckon they will be looking to have three picks inside the top 25 again.

Then why not trade Holmes or Lewis Pierce? Sorry, I don't want to see another player who we are developing get traded for someone who might, or might not, make it. What if we trade Hickey and Longer goes down with a knee in the pre-season? Look at Essendon; have to let Ryder go, but they have Bellchambers and Giles, except problem is neither of them can get near it and now Bellchambers is injured, as is the forward they play in the ruck sometimes, Carlisle.
Poor list management IF that is what they are planning for mine.

I saw Hickey kick a goal from a mile out at Sandy on Sunday and I would rather not give that away.

This. Anyone who thinks that either Longer or Hickey (potentially gun rucks in their early twenties) should be traded inside the next two years is on drugs !!

Do you think the one not playing will want to stay just so the saints have depth. If Hickey cant develop as a forward then one of them will be gone either at the end of this year or next. That I have no doubt. We know Longer will never be a forward and I have real doubts about Hickey.

[plugger66]

Given the position of our list I don’t think that we can afford to offload everyone over 30 at this stage so we need to consider which of them are most expendable. For me the two most obvious ones are Farren Ray and Adam Schneider, we have enough options that keeping them on the list for another year would be detrimental for our lists development.
I would look at the list like this:

1st Tier (Core Players):

Jack Steven

Luke Dunstan

Blake Acres

Leigh Montagna

Nick Riewoldt

Jarryn Geary

Jack Billings

Jack Newnes

Dylan Roberton

David Armitage

Josh Bruce

Jimmy Webster

Paddy McCartin

Hugh Goddard

Daniel McKenzie

Jack Lonie

Mav Weller

Jack Sinclair

2nd Tier (Keepers):

Tom Hickey

Eli Templeton

Shane Savage

Sebastian Ross

Tom Lee

Billy Longer

Luke Delaney

Sean Dempster

Tim Membrey

Nathan Wright

Cameron Shenton

3rd Tier (Probable Keepers):

Tom Curren

Brodie Murdoch

Josh Saunders

Darren Minchington

Lewis Pierce

Brenton Payne

Jason Holmes

4th Tier (In Danger):

Arryn Siposs

Daniel Markworth

Sam Gilbert

Farren Ray

Spencer White

Sam Fisher

5th Tier (Gone):

Tom Simpkin

Adam Schneider (Rookie)

Ahmed Saad (Rookie)

At this stage I think I would be making the following changes:

Out: Aaryn Siposs (Re-Rookie), Sam Gilbert (Trade / Delist), Sam Fisher (Retire), Farren Ray (Trade / Delist), Adam Schneider (Retire), Ahmed Saad (Delist)

In: 1st Round Pick, 2nd Round Pick, 3rd Round Pick, 4th Round Pick, 1st Round Rookie, Aaryn Siposs (Rookie)

For list purposes I would keep Sinclair on the rookie list as the designated player, but I still have him as a starting 22 player.

Sinclair cant play as a rookie in the seniors next year unless we have a LTI. He just got a 2 year contract so he will be elevated for sure. I would either delist Ray or keep him on the main list. I want 4 young rookies next season. I certainly don't want 2 olies like this season.

[Teflon]

Concur with 4 young rookies
No oldies wasting time - we have enough experience to nurture them

[gringo]

Its a pretty weak draft so I don't know there will be a great deal of good players who just mis out. I think clubs will have minimal list turn over this year.

[plugger66]

Its a pretty weak draft so I don't know there will be a great deal of good players who just mis out. I think clubs will have minimal list turn over this year.

Well if we redraft a 30 year old we will never know. As Teffers said we will have enough older blokes anyway.