God it's depressing reading this forum

[saynta]

Ignore the negative dropkicks tony74.

Especially the ones who continue to insult Richo.

which dropkicks posted that rattan was a bad idea?
pretty certain the consensus was - great when will he replace Richo

You're telling the story.

I didn't mention RattEn.

[sunsaint]

Ignore the negative dropkicks tony74.

Especially the ones who continue to insult Richo.

which dropkicks posted that rattan was a bad idea?
pretty certain the consensus was - great when will he replace Richo

You're telling the story.

I didn't mention RattEn.

if i have to hold your hand through each thread its going to take forever
Tony did

[skeptic]

Can we get over this blue sky vs grey sky BS.

It’s over... the frustration that some ppl felt over the miserable season coupled with a perceived (by some) lacklustre trade is gone. Most people are happy with King and want to see the new players.

Some people are more optimistic about 2019 than others.

Can ppl stop banging on like it’s a civil war

yeah ok fine skeptic - do get sick of being called a non supporter or opinion is worthless because Im not an AFL coach
GIVEN I have been an auto rollover member for too long now...

To be honest Sunsaint... I don’t blame you for that one. Most of us are here because we love the club to the point of obsessively posting here and it is irksome to have a handful of posters frequently questioning your right to an opinion because they’re ‘in the know’ or ‘have experience’... especially when they themselves don’t really seem capable of articulating their insights well.

What I’m finding increasingly bothersome is the idea that if you’re critical you’re bad and if you’re positive you’re good. The same few people keep banging on about it...
Just let people talk about the Saints FFS

Me personally... it’s safe to say that I’ve highly critical of the club, it’s message and actions over the last 3 months. And quality of observations aside, there’s nothing wrong with that or talking about it here.

The club has taken a number of big and at times controversial steps to address the many concerns out there... some of them are excellent... some of them I’m not so sure about. Regardless of how you feel, if you express it appropriately then that’s fine as opposed to this ‘Positive or Negative’ is better junk.

[chico2001]

A few of you will be eating humble pie next year. Ratts is going to make a huge difference.

Great to hear that tony74.

You would need to be practically brain dead not to appreciate that.

But, then again, having regard to the form of certain posters......

Book mark it Saynta. Already you can sense a feeling of optimism around the place. Looking back now,at this time last year everyone was just trying a little too hard to counter the loss of Roo and Joey. Sounds strange but in hindsight pretty obvious.

Ok, put your c**k on the block and tell us where the saints will finish on the ladder in 2019 & how many wins and we will bookmark that. I said 8 games, most others have said that. Dont worry about humble pie and blue sky and bringing up Roo and montagna as a causal factor for a dismal 2018, thats a cop out.

Just outside the 8. Win/loss just on the negative side.
P.S. Merry Christmas

That's a bit negative Tell your cook that there is no point in baking that pie then......

[The Fireman]

Richo has failed and I doubt I will be eating humble pie.

PS If it depresses you, don't read it. The club depresses me but I soldier on.

[satchmo]

Richo has failed and I doubt I will be eating humble pie.

PS If it depresses you, don't read it. The club depresses me but I soldier on.

You sayin no to pie????

[Aussie Jonestown]

Appoint Lenny Hayes as head coach... someone who is inspirational and a true leader!
He could also help to land Kelly for 2020.

After five years with a win/loss ratio of 33%, Richo is now enrolled into a leadership program.
Richo is not an inspirational leader... it's just not his gig... he wouldn't inspire an ant farm with a bowl full of sugar. You're either an inspirational leader or your not... it comes naturally or it does not... it's not something you manufacture in a leadership school.
Thank him for his service and for inadvertently delivering Max King through his ineptitude as a leader and wish him well. Make Lenny Hayes head coach ASAP!

[saynta]

Appoint Lenny Hayes as head coach... someone who is inspirational and a true leader!
He could also help to land Kelly for 2020.

After five years with a win/loss ratio of 33%, Richo is now enrolled into a leadership program.
Richo is not an inspirational leader... it's just not his gig... he wouldn't inspire an ant farm with a bowl full of sugar. You're either an inspirational leader or your not... it comes naturally or it does not... it's not something you manufacture in a leadership school.
Thank him for his service and for inadvertently delivering Max King through his ineptitude as a leader and wish him well. Make Lenny Hayes head coach ASAP!

51 crap posts. You are obviously not a saints supporter

[Aussie Jonestown]

Appoint Lenny Hayes as head coach... someone who is inspirational and a true leader!
He could also help to land Kelly for 2020.

After five years with a win/loss ratio of 33%, Richo is now enrolled into a leadership program.
Richo is not an inspirational leader... it's just not his gig... he wouldn't inspire an ant farm with a bowl full of sugar. You're either an inspirational leader or your not... it comes naturally or it does not... it's not something you manufacture in a leadership school.
Thank him for his service and for inadvertently delivering Max King through his ineptitude as a leader and wish him well. Make Lenny Hayes head coach ASAP!

51 crap posts. You are obviously not a saints supporter

[The Fireman]

Richo has failed and I doubt I will be eating humble pie.

PS If it depresses you, don't read it. The club depresses me but I soldier on.

You sayin no to pie????

trick question

[saintspremiers]

A few of you will be eating humble pie next year. Ratts is going to make a huge difference.

I take it Ratts is the main man now. Richo just a sideshow?

[tony74]

A few of you will be eating humble pie next year. Ratts is going to make a huge difference.

I take it Ratts is the main man now. Richo just a sideshow?

I expect to be hounded over this but here goes.... Richo is the brains, Ratts will be the explainer.

[Joffa Burns]

Yes, the sky is falling and everything we do is crap posts are annoying, but no more so than the rose colored glasses brigade that think a c grade battler that gets drafted by or traded to the saints is now borderline All Australian.

Fact is we were uncompetitive last season and Richo who appeared uninspiring must be considered dead lucky to retain his job.

We have recruited new assistants and a better off field structure so there is optimism for improvement. I think the trades were mediocre and have little idea of the drafted players as I haven’t seen them play.

To suggest we are going to bounce into finals consideration due to these changes appears overly optimistic but the sky isn’t falling either.

Maybe 6-8 wins with a 10-12 placed finish would be a reasonable result.

[Aussie Jonestown]

A few of you will be eating humble pie next year. Ratts is going to make a huge difference.

I take it Ratts is the main man now. Richo just a sideshow?

I expect to be hounded over this but here goes.... Richo is the brains, Ratts will be the explainer.

If Richo is the brains the club is screwed for as long as he remains in charge.
That he is doing a leadership course after five years of leading the club is a bit ridiculous and an inditement on those responsible for appointing him leader from the get go!
Appoint a real leader of men like Lenny Hayes as coach and watch the players respond accordingly.
I don't think our list is terrible... I think our players have been straightjacketed by an incompetent bumbling imposter for the role in which he was appointed.

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

A few of you will be eating humble pie next year. Ratts is going to make a huge difference.

I take it Ratts is the main man now. Richo just a sideshow?

I expect to be hounded over this but here goes.... Richo is the brains, Ratts will be the explainer.

Don't expect it Tony75, you actually will be. Good insight though. Ratts is a godsend.

[skeptic]

At least spell the man’s name correctly.

[degruch]

At least spell the man’s name correctly.

Maybe he's trying to be derogatory? Someone slap a ban on the use of Tony75!

[bigred]

A few of you will be eating humble pie next year. Ratts is going to make a huge difference.

I take it Ratts is the main man now. Richo just a sideshow?

I expect to be hounded over this but here goes.... Richo is the brains, Ratts will be the explainer.

I cant believe I am writing this but that makes a lot of sense.

[Cairnsman]

A few of you will be eating humble pie next year. Ratts is going to make a huge difference.

I take it Ratts is the main man now. Richo just a sideshow?

I expect to be hounded over this but here goes.... Richo is the brains, Ratts will be the explainer.

I cant believe I am writing this but that makes a lot of sense.

it makes complete sense to me.

[fugazi]

I vould cop this in the sense that Albert Einstein would explain quantum physics as conceived by Kyle Sandilands....you would hope the explainer puts a bit of his own spin on it

[skeptic]

So Richo has poor communication or implementation skills... is that the message

[desertsaint]

so we need someone to actually communicate the game plan to the players because the coach can't?

[degruch]

so we need someone to actually communicate the game plan to the players because the coach can't?

Apparently so, but is that unusual? Essendon blamed a breakdown in this process as the reason for giving Neeld the flick during the year, so its a structure clubs obviously use. Whether its a successful structure depends on how well Rat'cho communicate.

[Myron Gaines]

I take it Rats will deliver his/the other line coaches message & Richo’s gameplan won’t be used?

[barneyboyz]

A few of you will be eating humble pie next year. Ratts is going to make a huge difference.

Great to hear that tony74.

You would need to be practically brain dead not to appreciate that.

But, then again, having regard to the form of certain posters......

Book mark it Saynta. Already you can sense a feeling of optimism around the place. Looking back now,at this time last year everyone was just trying a little too hard to counter the loss of Roo and Joey. Sounds strange but in hindsight pretty obvious.

Ok, put your c**k on the block and tell us where the saints will finish on the ladder in 2019 & how many wins and we will bookmark that. I said 8 games, most others have said that. Dont worry about humble pie and blue sky and bringing up Roo and montagna as a causal factor for a dismal 2018, thats a cop out.

He wasn't addressing you.

Pretty much. Why do people hassle and abuse a genuine true insider of the actual Saints. Don't get it. The positive news surrounding our changes e.g. Ratten and that there is a good vibe should be celebrated. Hold on...guess that doesn't agree with the cynical and negative mindset though. Fairdinkum.

There appeared to be many things we got wrong last season, and yes it was troubling that we couldn't find the answers during play, but I find myself at the start of yet another preseason with new players, coaches and some optimism. If I can't find something exciting in all that, then I shouldn't bother.

Fact is I can and have found that spark. I have watched many new highlights videos, seen some young blokes (and old) register their delight at being given a chance to play in our colours. I have now started to witness a turnaround in general player belief post Roo and Joey, and I'll be damned if I'm not there in round 1 2019

Now, it's all up to them. Go Saints