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Hammer wrote:Agree Marge looks good, hope we pick him.
Personally, I'd go with one ~25yo ruck with some body size, 2 mids and key def size. Just my opinion of course...
If we're gonna pick one from Sandy - he'd be the one.
Watched the majority of Sandy games this year.
Magner is the one from Sandy for me Looks heaps better than every other mid on the ground. Tagged most weeks and opposition coaches target him as the danger man for Sandy in the middle. Hard as nails.
Margliani is training hard but, don't get sucked in by his physique! Can play but I feel he is being overrated by some due to his size.
You do know that 'Rig' was injured for a good part of this year? Magner has the size and ball winning ability but I'm not sure about the speed at the top level. For that reason id put rig ahead of him as far as afl potential
But we'll see.
savatage wrote:You do know that 'Rig' was injured for a good part of this year? Magner has the size and ball winning ability but I'm not sure about the speed at the top level. For that reason id put rig ahead of him as far as afl potential
But we'll see.
Yeah I know Rig was injured with his knee for lots this year, but didn't really grab my attention when he did play.
I reckon that Magner could extract it like a (dare I say it) Luke Ball type. 9/10 he is at the very bottom of the pack.
Look I would be happy if either got drafted. IMO Lenny needs more help at the bottom of the packs while Armo, Steven, Curren, Ross, etc. are developing. I think that requires a mature big body, therefore state league(VFL). I think from all the VFL games that I have watched in the last couple of years that Magner has been the best performed " extractor". Averaged over 30 poss per game and won Sandy b&f by a street.
Armo still developing at 24yo and after 5 full seasons in the AFL system....
Magner is very good at VFL level, and consistently plays well...often using his strength inside to outpoint younger players....He would be exploited severley at AFL level by guys as big or bigger with twice the running ability......
not sure he could push the likes of
Dustin Martin, Dane Swan, Simon Black, Daniel Kerr, Matthew Boyd.....
In comparison to Armitage.....Armo is Bigger, more skilled and has a bigger tank....and what is scary, Armo is quicker.....and when Armo played his last games in the VFL (09/10).....He dominated
Dont get me wrong.....Magner is a good VFL player....but like Valenti, who he is not nearly as good as.....is not a good enough athlete to go with the big boys...
Marigliani is a much better prospect.....but even he would have limitations
borderbarry wrote:How about the youngster Jackson Coleman. He is also training with us.
Well he must have been a late addition - I thought only this group were doing pre-season at the Saints:
Dowler, Magner, Marigliani, Ben Casley, James Hallahan, Danny Hughes, Michael Lourey.
Edit plus now Jack Crisp and Dylan Orval. (no mention of Coleman)
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Ben Casley (GWS), Beau Dowler (Noble Park), James Hallahan (Sandringham), Danny Hughes (Sandringham), Michael Lourey (Sandringham), James Magner (Sandringham), Marcus Marigliani (Sandringham).
Do you think some of the training spots from Sandy are so that the guys playing with in our feeder group are given the idea of promotion which in turn pushes excellence from our listed players?
They seem to be making Sandy St kildas vfl team by stealth.
As he is from the Sandringham Dragons, and a junior, would he still have to be on the list?
It was posted here a week or so ago that he was training with us.
gringo wrote:Do you think some of the training spots from Sandy are so that the guys playing with in our feeder group are given the idea of promotion which in turn pushes excellence from our listed players?
They seem to be making Sandy St kildas vfl team by stealth.
Are the Sandy players training with us atm also training with Sandy?
Or are Sandy not back at training yet?
If that is the case (not back yet) then we would seemingly be doing Sandy a huge favour by giving a number of their key players the benfit of extended AFL style training which will only assist them in the long run.
Maybe their training with us is actually nothing more than an attempt to strengthen our ties with Sandy?
gringo wrote:Do you think some of the training spots from Sandy are so that the guys playing with in our feeder group are given the idea of promotion which in turn pushes excellence from our listed players?
They seem to be making Sandy St kildas vfl team by stealth.
Are the Sandy players training with us atm also training with Sandy?
Or are Sandy not back at training yet?
If that is the case (not back yet) then we would seemingly be doing Sandy a huge favour by giving a number of their key players the benfit of extended AFL style training which will only assist them in the long run.
Maybe their training with us is actually nothing more than an attempt to strengthen our ties with Sandy?
I would Sandy are back but it is still better to train at an AFL club than a VFL club. God knows how they get the time off work though.
Sandy have been back for a while.
Posted by Saint Brat on 22.11.11. The total number of 2011 listed Dragons boys training with us to over 15 – The Dragons/Zebs relationship continues to prosper which we are extremely happy about.
This may include Jackson Coleman.
Well, if it is the case we have the right man to look after him. Didn't Scotty Waters work for a while looking after kids in the juvenile detention system in WA?
"Man must suffer to be wise or alternatively support the Saints." Aeschylus
Why Fev is continually considered "criminal" I'm not sure. He is a twat with a gambling addiction but there is no suggestion that he is a crim is there?
If he gets a go elsewhere and we pull up just short everyone will be saying we should have got hold of him just like Cousins.
The problem with Magner... whilst I quite liked the romance of putting him on the list (Sandy guy... worked hard, earn't his spot etc), doesn't make sense to rookie him IMO.
He's ready now... you either want to play him or you don't... don't know if we need aging midfielders on our rookie list for depth.
Don't get me wrong... the guys a winner and I was disappointed we didn't get him in the draft.
Looks heaps better than every other mid on the ground. Tagged most weeks and opposition coaches target him as the danger man for Sandy in the middle. Hard as nails.
