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Post: # 1852349Post Secret Kiel »

This article might be interesting to all those who watch a game on TV and think they know more than the coach.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-11/ ... m/12437678
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Post: # 1852350Post The_Dud »

Secret Kiel wrote: Sun 12 Jul 2020 11:07am This article might be interesting to all those who watch a game on TV and think they know more than the coach.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-11/ ... 12437678[s][/s]
Would an article on how to correctly post a link be interesting too?

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Post: # 1852352Post Secret Kiel »

The_Dud wrote: Sun 12 Jul 2020 11:11am
Secret Kiel wrote: Sun 12 Jul 2020 11:07am This article might be interesting to all those who watch a game on TV and think they know more than the coach.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-11/ ... 12437678[s][/s]
Would an article on how to correctly post a link be interesting too?

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Thankfully my auto-proofer is working..😉


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Post: # 1852375Post takeaway »

Secret Kiel wrote: Sun 12 Jul 2020 11:17am
The_Dud wrote: Sun 12 Jul 2020 11:11am
Secret Kiel wrote: Sun 12 Jul 2020 11:07am This article might be interesting to all those who watch a game on TV and think they know more than the coach.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-11/ ... 12437678[s][/s]
Would an article on how to correctly post a link be interesting too?

:lol:
Thankfully my auto-proofer is working..😉
Good article. Technology available today should give the viewer a much better overview of the game, but I doubt whether the networks are interested in improving it. Would be a good idea to introduce a few changes asap, ie better camera angle/positions, more overview shots, especially with the diminished and often boring product this year.
Anyway, no matter how good the coverage becomes, supporters will always know better than the coach, especially when their team loses.


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Post: # 1852378Post To the top »

The interesting comment is watching the hand from behind the goals

A life time ago I would frequently depart the bench on centre wing to watch from behind the goals - the game “opened up” from behind the goals because patterns were more identified including players falling off their defensive responsibilities especially mid fielders


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Post: # 1852379Post Secret Kiel »

takeaway wrote: Sun 12 Jul 2020 12:53pm
Secret Kiel wrote: Sun 12 Jul 2020 11:17am
The_Dud wrote: Sun 12 Jul 2020 11:11am
Secret Kiel wrote: Sun 12 Jul 2020 11:07am This article might be interesting to all those who watch a game on TV and think they know more than the coach.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-11/ ... 12437678[s][/s]
Would an article on how to correctly post a link be interesting too?

:lol:
Thankfully my auto-proofer is working..😉
Good article. Technology available today should give the viewer a much better overview of the game, but I doubt whether the networks are interested in improving it. Would be a good idea to introduce a few changes asap, ie better camera angle/positions, more overview shots, especially with the diminished and often boring product this year.
Anyway, no matter how good the coverage becomes, supporters will always know better than the coach, especially when their team loses.
I agree the networks aren't interested in improving the coverage or providing the same footage the coaches and analyst's use mainly becuse the product has to remain dumbed-down for the footy fans.

Keep it simple for the Sheeple.


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Post: # 1852383Post CQ SAINT »

It's the coaches that are screwing the spectacle, like the dog ugly crap that Freo served up yesterday.
From the stands it was like watching British Bulldogs or Releaseo from a primary school play ground.
36 grown men running around half an oval grappling eachother.
The cameras deceive you and the commentators are trained and restrained into giving you spin on how thrilling the pressure is.
Gerard Healy might have vomitted in his own mouth a few times in the commentary box, in the replay I watched from Kayo, at the crap he was witnessing with interpretations of the rules but there was no comment on the deliberate congestion and dumbing down of the skills of the game with pressure and negating of free flowing match play by Longmuir.
Healy commented to the effect of 'It's clearn that the interpretation of the holding the ball rule means you should not attempt to go for it. Despite obvious 'no prior attempt, it's clear if you go for the ball and get pinned, it's holding the ball.
When Coffield was pinned the moment the ball landed in his hands, he said should have got not gone for it.


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Post: # 1852408Post takeaway »

CQ SAINT wrote: Sun 12 Jul 2020 1:43pm It's the coaches that are screwing the spectacle, like the dog ugly crap that Freo served up yesterday.
From the stands it was like watching British Bulldogs or Releaseo from a primary school play ground.
36 grown men running around half an oval grappling eachother.
The cameras deceive you and the commentators are trained and restrained into giving you spin on how thrilling the pressure is.
Gerard Healy might have vomitted in his own mouth a few times in the commentary box, in the replay I watched from Kayo, at the crap he was witnessing with interpretations of the rules but there was no comment on the deliberate congestion and dumbing down of the skills of the game with pressure and negating of free flowing match play by Longmuir.
Healy commented to the effect of 'It's clearn that the interpretation of the holding the ball rule means you should not attempt to go for it. Despite obvious 'no prior attempt, it's clear if you go for the ball and get pinned, it's holding the ball.
When Coffield was pinned the moment the ball landed in his hands, he said should have got not gone for it.
I agree it is not right where rules encourage the player not to grab the ball. The AFL has a problem with the spectacle, and really needs to look at it. I hate too many changes to the rules, but something has to happen.
Ric Charlesworth had a bit to do with it.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/how ... 558ps.html


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Re: TV Experts

Post: # 1852647Post sunsaint »

Im calling BS on two negative media articles on the state of the game

Every year the coaches sit down with Macca with a bottle of their best red for a night of open discussion about the state of the game and rule changes to make it a better spectacle
And Im betting big that the changes are exactly what the coaches want in order to create the style of game to suit them

As for the same camera shots of the 60s - Yes centre bounces are the classic wing shot but now every angle is covered including outer wing boundary line - And i know there are high shots on grounds from the opposite wing lining up behind players kicking for goal that does your head in trying to adjust
New technology of cameras in the goal posts are in their infancy and newer high speed high resolution cameras will continue to improve the fourth umpire decisions for goals.
The AFL GF gets the hover camera and that will continue to expand across grounds in the future.

Complaining about the style of play in the game is nothing new - our one solitary GF cup was based on the archaic tactic of deliberately kicking the ball out on the full. When did that rule change again???


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Post: # 1852652Post Devilhead »

How about reducing from 18 to 16 on the field and having 6 man benches

That should open it up ...... a bit

You could also experiment with having 2 permanent forwards and backs who aren't allowed to touch the ball outside the 50 arc - the can leave and apply shepherds but ain't allowed to touch the pill/take possesion or else free kick - they would need to wear an armband or something to designate - which can be swapped around - you would probably find that these players would stick to playing a deeper role anyeay which in turn reduce further congestion in the middle of the ground

Hey just throwing around ideas


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