Team vs Hawks
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Team vs Hawks
ST KILDA
In: J.Marsh, J.Lonie
Out: T.Membrey (finger), N.Hind (omitted)
HAWTHORN
In: W.Day, S.Frost, D.Moore, J.Morris, D.Greaves, L.Shiels, H.Morrison
Out: C.Glass (omitted), D.Minchington (omitted), B.Stratton (injured), J.Impey (injured), B.McEvoy (managed), S.Burgoyne (managed), O.Hanrahan (managed)
In: J.Marsh, J.Lonie
Out: T.Membrey (finger), N.Hind (omitted)
HAWTHORN
In: W.Day, S.Frost, D.Moore, J.Morris, D.Greaves, L.Shiels, H.Morrison
Out: C.Glass (omitted), D.Minchington (omitted), B.Stratton (injured), J.Impey (injured), B.McEvoy (managed), S.Burgoyne (managed), O.Hanrahan (managed)
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Re: Team vs Hawks
Superman can play two positions at the same time.
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Re: Team vs Hawks
Couple of nice outs for Hawthorn.
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Re: Team vs Hawks
Really unimpressed with this
Looks to me like Ratten’s preoccupation with small forwards is going to cost us badly.
Cannot believe Carlisle misses again or that Kent survives.
We’re persevering with a structure that doesn’t work and gambling on the most inconsistent and limited players in the hardest role on the grade to produce against the odds.
Looks to me like Ratten’s preoccupation with small forwards is going to cost us badly.
Cannot believe Carlisle misses again or that Kent survives.
We’re persevering with a structure that doesn’t work and gambling on the most inconsistent and limited players in the hardest role on the grade to produce against the odds.
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Re: Team vs Hawks
No Carlisle too, when I see selections like this it makes me feel that I hope we lose & Ratten learns a lesson just like Richo. Of course I do hope we win but this weeks selection just baffles.skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 7:44pm Really unimpressed with this
Looks to me like Ratten’s preoccupation with small forwards is going to cost us badly.
Cannot believe Carlisle misses again or that Kent survives.
We’re persevering with a structure that doesn’t work and gambling on the most inconsistent and limited players in the hardest role on the grade to produce against the odds.
Jono Marsh is not up to AFL standard.
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Re: Team vs Hawks
So frustrated with that...
Butler is playing alright at the moment but down on form to what he has been
Kent is badly out of form
Lonie was struggling when he dropped
Marsh hasn’t looked up to it all season
Am actually really tempted to change my tips to the Hawks.
We have absolutely SFA options to change things up if the structure is not working and our midfield power remains reduced.
Hate this
Butler is playing alright at the moment but down on form to what he has been
Kent is badly out of form
Lonie was struggling when he dropped
Marsh hasn’t looked up to it all season
Am actually really tempted to change my tips to the Hawks.
We have absolutely SFA options to change things up if the structure is not working and our midfield power remains reduced.
Hate this
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Re: Team vs Hawks
Surprised Carlisle is not back - he must be recovering from an injury?
What up with Roberton surely one of them should be playing?
What up with Roberton surely one of them should be playing?
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Re: Team vs Hawks
The thing is though... like Richo, Ratten appears not to be learning.Peanut Farm wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 7:49pmNo Carlisle too, when I see selections like this it makes me feel that I hope we lose & Ratten learns a lesson just like Richo. Of course I do hope we win but this weeks selection just baffles.skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 7:44pm Really unimpressed with this
Looks to me like Ratten’s preoccupation with small forwards is going to cost us badly.
Cannot believe Carlisle misses again or that Kent survives.
We’re persevering with a structure that doesn’t work and gambling on the most inconsistent and limited players in the hardest role on the grade to produce against the odds.
Jono Marsh is not up to AFL standard.
He seems more intent on playing to a particular structure design that works in his head but is not being replicated in performance.
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Re: Team vs Hawks
Its starting to look that way isnt it - quite concerning!skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 7:57pmThe thing is though... like Richo, Ratten appears not to be learning.Peanut Farm wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 7:49pmNo Carlisle too, when I see selections like this it makes me feel that I hope we lose & Ratten learns a lesson just like Richo. Of course I do hope we win but this weeks selection just baffles.skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 7:44pm Really unimpressed with this
Looks to me like Ratten’s preoccupation with small forwards is going to cost us badly.
Cannot believe Carlisle misses again or that Kent survives.
We’re persevering with a structure that doesn’t work and gambling on the most inconsistent and limited players in the hardest role on the grade to produce against the odds.
Jono Marsh is not up to AFL standard.
He seems more intent on playing to a particular structure design that works in his head but is not being replicated in performance.
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Re: Team vs Hawks
skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 7:57pmThe thing is though... like Richo, Ratten appears not to be learning.Peanut Farm wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 7:49pmNo Carlisle too, when I see selections like this it makes me feel that I hope we lose & Ratten learns a lesson just like Richo. Of course I do hope we win but this weeks selection just baffles.skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 7:44pm Really unimpressed with this
Looks to me like Ratten’s preoccupation with small forwards is going to cost us badly.
Cannot believe Carlisle misses again or that Kent survives.
We’re persevering with a structure that doesn’t work and gambling on the most inconsistent and limited players in the hardest role on the grade to produce against the odds.
Jono Marsh is not up to AFL standard.
He seems more intent on playing to a particular structure design that works in his head but is not being replicated in performance.
By most measures we're over performing against expectations.
Not sure we should be second guessing anyone at the club at the moment. If we lose this weekend sure go for it but to date I wouldn't have thought so.
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Re: Team vs Hawks
No Burgoyne. A blessing for us. He destroys us every time. Can we control Michell?? Not many forward options left on the list, so unsurprising Marsh gets a chance. The Carlisle situation is baffling
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Re: Team vs Hawks
Pretty sure Carlisle is having a kid or is about to???
Happy with the ins. We have a way better side than Hawthorn.
Happy with the ins. We have a way better side than Hawthorn.
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Re: Team vs Hawks
No Carlisle, No Roberton, No Savage. Hmmm.
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Re: Team vs Hawks
From all accounts he has had some back soreness this week and they probably thought he would find it hard to come up next match with a 4 day break.Impatient Sainter wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 7:56pm Surprised Carlisle is not back - he must be recovering from an injury?
What up with Roberton surely one of them should be playing?
Also we should be able to have sufficient defenders against Hawks, and keep him for West Coast match.
It’s likely we will need to win two matches to make finals so a fresh Carlisle and Membery would be good.
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Re: Team vs Hawks
Respectfully can’t agree with that at all...nostalgicsaint wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 8:03pmskeptic wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 7:57pmThe thing is though... like Richo, Ratten appears not to be learning.Peanut Farm wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 7:49pmNo Carlisle too, when I see selections like this it makes me feel that I hope we lose & Ratten learns a lesson just like Richo. Of course I do hope we win but this weeks selection just baffles.skeptic wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 7:44pm Really unimpressed with this
Looks to me like Ratten’s preoccupation with small forwards is going to cost us badly.
Cannot believe Carlisle misses again or that Kent survives.
We’re persevering with a structure that doesn’t work and gambling on the most inconsistent and limited players in the hardest role on the grade to produce against the odds.
Jono Marsh is not up to AFL standard.
He seems more intent on playing to a particular structure design that works in his head but is not being replicated in performance.
By most measures we're over performing against expectations.
Not sure we should be second guessing anyone at the club at the moment. If we lose this weekend sure go for it but to date I wouldn't have thought so.
That’s the logic that saw us carry a plethora of underperforming players in 2010 right to the GF off the backs of Riewoldt, Hayes, Goddard etc.
It was fine because we were winning and the players that could have made the difference were underdeveloped
Nothing good comes from persevering with sustained bad form but more so, this structure is not an effective one.
We were beaten in the midfield last week and have not brought in midfielders
And we had limited flexibility when our structure down back and up forward was getting shown up.
Our response is not to address either problem...
Bit more so than that... this structure is a incredibly SH1##y one IMO. 4 players in the team that don’t get much ball, can’t play anywhere else, haven’t kicked a lot of goals (with the exception of one), haven’t been in great form... and generally can’t contribute unless they kick 2-3 goals off limited opportunities.
Even if they blitz it up vs a team that has nothing to play for... it’s a really bad strategy.
Could you imagine going in with this team against Geelong... they beat us by double than what they did
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Re: Team vs Hawks
Well I can accept that...longtimesaint wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 8:17pmFrom all accounts he has had some back soreness this week and they probably thought he would find it hard to come up next match with a 4 day break.Impatient Sainter wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 7:56pm Surprised Carlisle is not back - he must be recovering from an injury?
What up with Roberton surely one of them should be playing?
Also we should be able to have sufficient defenders against Hawks, and keep him for West Coast match.
It’s likely we will need to win two matches to make finals so a fresh Carlisle and Membery would be good.
Still don’t love our response
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Re: Team vs Hawks
Ten goal win is par based on us playing
The Box Hill Hawks.
It’s a shame Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs isn’t playing.
The Box Hill Hawks.
It’s a shame Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs isn’t playing.
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Re: Team vs Hawks
I'm going to report you for being a voice of reason.longtimesaint wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 8:17pmFrom all accounts he has had some back soreness this week and they probably thought he would find it hard to come up next match with a 4 day break.Impatient Sainter wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 7:56pm Surprised Carlisle is not back - he must be recovering from an injury?
What up with Roberton surely one of them should be playing?
Also we should be able to have sufficient defenders against Hawks, and keep him for West Coast match.
It’s likely we will need to win two matches to make finals so a fresh Carlisle and Membery would be good.
Great post.
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Re: Team vs Hawks
Out - 2 - Nick Foot 12 - Andrew Stephens
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Re: Team vs Hawks
Yeah, it's not as if we couldn't find another position for Hunter Clark.Peanut Farm wrote: ↑Sat 05 Sep 2020 7:42pm Cant believe Savage cant get a game, absolutely ridiculous.