Ok...where are all these Draft Ruckmen????

[saintsRrising]

My apologies for all for going back to talking football talent again.....but a while back I was assured that our first pick would be a ruckman as this year was going to be the year for ruckmen...or at least that is was Saintsationalists said was the go on Bigfooty.


Well i did not look then...but as our footie season is now over I thought I would have a look......and well all I saw for ruckmen was was about the normal number.......rather than the promised "this will be the year of the ruckmen."

So where are they all then???? If you havae good post with them in it, can you please post the link- THANKS

Here for example is one selection....and yes I know the order of clubs is not right...buy I grabbed it as it listed heights and positions...
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358174

Pick 1 - Richmond - TOA --------- Matthew Kruezer - Ruckman - 199cm 91kgs - Northern Knights
Pick 2 - Carlton - HBF ----------- Trent Cotchin - Onballer - 184cm - 81kgs - Northern Knights
Pick 3 - Melbourne - Gily1972 ---- Cale Morton - Wingman/Utility - 192cm 75kgs - Claremont
Pick 4 - Essendon - Foj1 --------- Brad Ebert - Onballer -187cm 86kg - Port Magpies
Pick 5 - Fremantle - BoyfromWest - Chris Masten - Onballer - 179cm 80kgs - East Fremantle
Pick 6 - Adelaide - Thunderstruck - Rhys Palmer - Onballer - 180cm 76kgs - East Fremantle
Pick 7 - Bulldogs - Mjp ----------- Lachie Henderson - KP Forward - 196cm 90kgs - Geelong
Pick 8 - Saint Kilda - VicCrow ----- Alex Rance - KP Defender - 194cm 87kgs - Swan Districts
Pick 9 - Brisbane - Quigley -------- Cyril Rioli - Onballer/FP - 178cm - 74kgs - St Marys
Pick 10 - Collingwood - VVegas69 - Jack Grimes - Utility/Centreman - 187cm 76kgs - Northern Knights
Pick 11 - Swans - Grub29 -------- Ben McEvoy - Ruckman - 199cm 90kgs - Murry Bushrangers

Pick 12 - Kangaroos - Pykie--------Tom Collier/Tweener - Utility - 192cm 86kgs - Tasmania
Pick 13 - West Coast - Megladon---David Myers - Backman/Utility - 190cm 85kgs - Perth
Pick 14 - Port Adelaide - SnoopDog-David Gourdis - KP Forward - 193cm 88kgs - Subiaco
Pick 15 - Hawthorn - LukeHodge15-Pat Veszpremi - Onballer - 183cm 83kgs - Northern Knights
Pick 16 - Geelong - Diablo14-------Adam Maric - FP/Onballer - 179cm 80kgs - Calder Cannons

ROUND #2

Pick 17 - Richmond - TOA --------- Scott Selwood - Onballer - 184cm 81kgs - Bendigo Pioneers
Pick 18 - Carlton - HBF ----------- Tayte Pears - KP Backman - 192cm 90kgs - East Perth
Pick 19 - Melbourne - Gily1972 ---- Scott Simpson - KP Forward - 194cm 91kgs - Dandenong Stingrays
Pick 20 - Essendon - Foj1 --------- Steven Gaertner - KP Backman/??? - 196cm 83kg - Dandenong Stingrays
Pick 21 - Fremantle - BoyfromWest - Tom Bellchambers - Ruckman - 199cm 91kgs - TasmaniaPick 22 - Adelaide - Thunderstruck - Levi Greenwood - Onballer/HBF - 181cm 91kgs - Port Magpies
Pick 23 - Bulldogs - Mjp ----------- Callan Ward - Onballer - 183cm 71kgs - Western Jets
Pick 24 - Saint Kilda - VicCrow ----- Sam Reid - Onballer - 185cm 75kg - Queensland
Pick 25 - Brisbane - Quigley -------- Steven Browne - Onballer/HBF - 181cm 74kg - West Perth
Pick 26 - Collingwood - VVegas69 - Dawson Simpson - Ruckman - 207cm 97kgs - Murray Bushrangers
Pick 27 - Swans - Grub29 -------- Patrick McGinnity - Onballer/HBF - 182cm 75kgs - Claremont
Pick 28 - Kangaroos - Pykie--------Robert Tarrant - KP Forward - 196cm 92kgs - Bendigo Pioneers
Pick 29 - West Coast - Megladon---Tony Notte - KP Forward - 194cm 70kgs - Swan Districts
Pick 30 - Port Adelaide - SnoopDog-Ryan Normington- Onballer - 186cm 76kgs - Murray Bushrangers
Pick 31 - Hawthorn - LukeHodge15-Haelan Kay- Utility - 186cm 75kgs - Gippsland Power
Pick 32 - Geelong - Diablo14-------Andy Otten - Utility - 192cm 86kgs - Oakleigh Chargers

[Unforgiven]

From what I read from the ruckman in this comming draft is a lot of them have the 'raw talent' but need to be developed or improve in their hit outs, or work rate, etc. Going by that I wouldnt see too many going that high in the draft beside the obvious one.

[n1ck]

'Saint Kilda'.

*shudder*

[borderbarry]

From what I can see, after Kreuzer the next most favoured ruckman is Ben McEvoy, at 199cm. But he is looked on as mainly a KPP.
The next, Tom Bellchambers from Tassy is considered Tassy's best ruckman, but how does he rate against all the other states boys?
The others, Dawson Simpson at 207cm, Murray Bushrangers, Andrew Renton at 202cm, from Eastern Ranges, Will Sullivan 202cm from Western Jets, James Mulligan, 201 cm from Queensland, John Shaw, 197cm from Sandringham Dragons, Dean Putt, 202 cm from Calder Cannons, Breen from W.A., and maybe Reece Phoenix, 197cm from N.T. None of them appears to be a standout. I dont know how they would compare. Anyone here have enough knowledge of them to try to put them in order of preference, from Bellchambers on?

[st_Trav_ofWA]

just on that draft i cannot see Masten going b4 Palmer but if either are still around by pick 9 we should snap them up

[saintsRrising]

just on that draft i cannot see Masten going b4 Palmer but if either are still around by pick 9 we should snap them up

Other posts ahd Palmer higher...I just grabbed this one has it had them all together with heights and positions.

Rankings will no doubt vary hugely....it does however givea resaonable snap shot of who is around in the top two dozen ish...and what player types are available.

[Animal Enclosure]

I do like the sound of Alex Rance at pick 9, with Max having a few years left it would be a very opportune time to draft a quality young defender. Unless one of the real gun mids slips to us (like Selwood did for the Cats), getting a tall defender like Rance would suit us beautifully.

You can still usually pick up decent mids later in the draft. As for ruckmen...well it looks like a trade or a development pick will be a goer.

[redwhite&blackblood]

After seeing 2 games of Glenelg on ABC2 in the last 2 weeks i am impressed by young Daniel Kirk as a ruckman he has been coached this year by Mark Mickan and shows a bit. He is 24yo 200cm 101kg and doesn't have the long term development that some of the under 18's will require. We could probably pick him up with a 3rd Rnd pick maybe a fourth.

Other players that have impressed both weeks have been - Sam Rudolph 23yo 189cm 81kg FB, Mark Ruwoldt 20yo, 180cm 84kg Mid and Ruory Kirkby 20yo 192cm 89kg FF/CHF.

[Unforgiven]

Ruory Kirkby 20yo 192cm 89kg FF/CHF.

cannot beleive he didnt get drafted back in the day, or rookied(did he?) he had a good draft camp If i remember correctly, could be mistaken.