ha ha ha - bone head...

saints66 · Post: # 476979Post **saints66** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:35am

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Armoooo · Post: # 476984Post **Armoooo** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:36am

Lovin the optimism, hopefully you're right...

BelfastSaint · Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:46am

AF just said on SEN that MG was fine and looking forward to a full pre season ....Which in turn would mean that Kosi could play full forward.

yipper · Post: # 476996Post **yipper** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 11:47am

saints66 wrote:Gardiner must be fit to delist Watts and Brooks two player that could play in the foward line. my Guess Kosie now to FF and King Gardiner to ruck.I must admit I did't think the big fella would ever pull on a Saints jummper!

It's a reasonable assumption to draw from these decisions. It would appear he is very much in the thinking of the coaching team so, yes, he must have been given a green light somewhere.

BAM! (shhhh) · Tue 16 Oct 2007 1:34pm

Not convinced that's what it means at all.

At least I hope we're not making our strategies based around teh health of Michael Gardiner. Gardiner has never in is career played 22 in a season. Gardiner and King are pretty sizable injury risks, and Kosi's got an amazing knack for finding new ways to hurt himself. While you wouldn't keep either of Brooks or Watts around the off chance all 3 are out at the same time, it's a very real possibility.

Says to me that they think the new guys have more upside than the old guys, and that they think they can cover fwd/ruck without Barry Brooks and Fergus Watts. The unfortunate reality for both these guys is that a lot of things will have to happen just so for anyone to ever question the call...

the revised tradeweek outcome: Brooks, Watts, Pick 26, Pick 90 for Scheider, Dempster, King and Gardiner. I don't think anyone who liked the performance before is going to change their mind based on that.

saintly · Post: # 477066Post **saintly** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 1:38pm

[quote="BAM! (shhhh)"]Not convinced that's what it means at all.

At least I hope we're not making our strategies based around teh health of Michael Gardiner. Gardiner has never in is career played 22 in a season. Gardiner and King are pretty sizable injury risks, and Kosi's got an amazing knack for finding new ways to hurt himself. While you wouldn't keep either of Brooks or Watts around the off chance all 3 are out at the same time, it's a very real possibility.

Says to me that they think the new guys have more upside than the old guys, and that they think they can cover fwd/ruck without Barry Brooks and Fergus Watts. The unfortunate reality for both these guys is that a lot of things will have to happen just so for anyone to ever question the call...

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however, whenever the saints had ruck and forward problems in the last 2 years, both brooks and watts were used 3 times.

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Sobraz · Post: # 477069Post **Sobraz** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 1:42pm

we are also looking to pick up a ruckman in the national draft, so even without the height of Brookes and Watts, we will still have King, Gard, Blake, Kos, Rix & VR to fill in the positions. Plus a draft pick. I pray that we do not go downt the path of drafting Guy Richards...

At best, I think we would play King and Gard as rucks, and Kosi forward. No room for Blake i would think...

st.byron · Post: # 477087Post **st.byron** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 2:35pm

saints66 wrote:Gardiner must be fit to delist Watts and Brooks two player that could play in the foward line. my Guess Kosie now to FF and King Gardiner to ruck.I must admit I did't think the big fella would ever pull on a Saints jummper!

love the October optimism and hope you're right but it's one thing to be fit according to an October medical report and another to deliver on field in Round One. Lots of water to flow under the pre-season bridge before getting excited about Gardiner I reckon.

stinger · Post: # 477090Post **stinger** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 2:39pm

Sobraz wrote:we are also looking to pick up a ruckman in the national draft, so even without the height of Brookes and Watts, we will still have King, Gard, Blake, Kos, Rix & VR to fill in the positions. Plus a draft pick. I pray that we do not go downt the path of drafting Guy Richards...

At best, I think we would play King and Gard as rucks, and Kosi forward. No room for Blake i would think...

i think richards as only an option before king came up as available to us....we will get one to develop i hope...the israeli kid sounds good....

Animal Enclosure · Tue 16 Oct 2007 3:17pm

At least with King we have a solid ruckman that will allow Gardiner to get fit & in form without the added pressure of being the No.1 option.

Great news if it's true...

saintrod · Post: # 477196Post **saintrod** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 4:08pm

I hope Gardiner is fit because if there is a significant level of doubt he should be delisted. I will therefore be really pissed off if come round 1 we have another Hamill scenario of a player on the never never if that is the case you would be better off even with someone like Richards or Brooks on our list who can at least play.

Remember he has not played a decent game at AFL level in the ruck since 2003 so even if he is fit there is signifcant doubt as to how he will be able to perform.

My biggest concern when we recruited him in the first instance was that he had not demonstrated that he could be a front line ruck following his knee reco.

saintspremiers · Tue 16 Oct 2007 4:14pm

stinger wrote:
Sobraz wrote:we are also looking to pick up a ruckman in the national draft, so even without the height of Brookes and Watts, we will still have King, Gard, Blake, Kos, Rix & VR to fill in the positions. Plus a draft pick. I pray that we do not go downt the path of drafting Guy Richards...

At best, I think we would play King and Gard as rucks, and Kosi forward. No room for Blake i would think...
i think richards as only an option before king came up as available to us....we will get one to develop i hope...the israeli kid sounds good....

Israelis are good to have in your side.....they add a bit of ammo/firepower plus have a bit of an attitude....they're not the friendliest of people, but you can't deny their passion, which is just what we need!

Solar · Post: # 477213Post **Solar** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 4:21pm

saintspremiers wrote:
stinger wrote:
Sobraz wrote:we are also looking to pick up a ruckman in the national draft, so even without the height of Brookes and Watts, we will still have King, Gard, Blake, Kos, Rix & VR to fill in the positions. Plus a draft pick. I pray that we do not go downt the path of drafting Guy Richards...

At best, I think we would play King and Gard as rucks, and Kosi forward. No room for Blake i would think...
i think richards as only an option before king came up as available to us....we will get one to develop i hope...the israeli kid sounds good....
Israelis are good to have in your side.....they add a bit of ammo/firepower plus have a bit of an attitude....they're not the friendliest of people, but you can't deny their passion, which is just what we need!

only problem is that they hate playing away and will strike first without asking, we might have to worry about games turning into WW3

Saint 58 · Post: # 477215Post **Saint 58** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 4:25pm

Who is the "the israeli kid" ??

Post: # 477222Post **n1ck** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 4:28pm

Joel Smouha.

Check the draft camp results. Highest rated tall kid in nearly all the tests.

2nd in beep test and 1st in the 3km run... out of all the players.

Something like 198cm.

BelfastSaint · Tue 16 Oct 2007 4:37pm

Saint 58 wrote:Who is the "the israeli kid" ??

Does he play on Saturdays ..........?

borderbarry · Tue 16 Oct 2007 4:39pm

I have only seen him listed as 196cm

Post: # 477236Post **n1ck** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 4:40pm

BelfastSaint wrote:
Saint 58 wrote:Who is the "the israeli kid" ??
Does he play on Saturdays ..........?

I doubt he would have made it to the draft camp in this day and age if he didnt..

borderbarry · Tue 16 Oct 2007 4:42pm

We have had a few Jewish boys play for us over the years, Mordy Bromberg and Ian Synman come to mind. Ian was our great centre half back in our premiership team. He had also captained the thirds a few years earlier when they won their first premiership. We could do worse than picking up an Israeli kid.

Armoooo · Post: # 477351Post **Armoooo** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 5:39pm

saintspremiers wrote:
stinger wrote:
Sobraz wrote:we are also looking to pick up a ruckman in the national draft, so even without the height of Brookes and Watts, we will still have King, Gard, Blake, Kos, Rix & VR to fill in the positions. Plus a draft pick. I pray that we do not go downt the path of drafting Guy Richards...

At best, I think we would play King and Gard as rucks, and Kosi forward. No room for Blake i would think...
i think richards as only an option before king came up as available to us....we will get one to develop i hope...the israeli kid sounds good....
Israelis are good to have in your side.....they add a bit of ammo/firepower plus have a bit of an attitude....they're not the friendliest of people, but you can't deny their passion, which is just what we need!

You are incredibly racist!! I bet you're a muslim

Post: # 477353Post **n1ck** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 5:40pm

borderbarry wrote:We have had a few Jewish boys play for us over the years, Mordy Bromberg and Ian Synman come to mind. Ian was our great centre half back in our premiership team. He had also captained the thirds a few years earlier when they won their first premiership. We could do worse than picking up an Israeli kid.

Brian Sierakowski?

claystreet · Post: # 477357Post **claystreet** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 5:41pm

Mordy is on the board eh

plugger66 · Post: # 477362Post **plugger66** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 5:46pm

n1ck wrote:
borderbarry wrote:We have had a few Jewish boys play for us over the years, Mordy Bromberg and Ian Synman come to mind. Ian was our great centre half back in our premiership team. He had also captained the thirds a few years earlier when they won their first premiership. We could do worse than picking up an Israeli kid.
Brian Sierakowski..

Doubt whether he is jewish as his brother is a priest at a local school but funnier things have happened.

stinger · Post: # 477373Post **stinger** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 5:54pm

plugger66 wrote:
n1ck wrote:
borderbarry wrote:We have had a few Jewish boys play for us over the years, Mordy Bromberg and Ian Synman come to mind. Ian was our great centre half back in our premiership team. He had also captained the thirds a few years earlier when they won their first premiership. We could do worse than picking up an Israeli kid.
Brian Sierakowski..
Doubt whether he is jewish as his brother is a priest at a local school but funnier things have happened.

good catholic boy went to cbc st kilda.....

plugger66 · Post: # 477377Post **plugger66** » Tue 16 Oct 2007 5:59pm

stinger wrote:
plugger66 wrote:
n1ck wrote:
borderbarry wrote:We have had a few Jewish boys play for us over the years, Mordy Bromberg and Ian Synman come to mind. Ian was our great centre half back in our premiership team. He had also captained the thirds a few years earlier when they won their first premiership. We could do worse than picking up an Israeli kid.
Brian Sierakowski..
Doubt whether he is jewish as his brother is a priest at a local school but funnier things have happened.

good catholic boy went to cbc st kilda.....

And the family owned a great pub in Nepean Hwy Brighton that is now a Dan Murphys. Funnily enough it was called Sierakowski's.

ha ha ha - bone head...

ha ha ha - bone head...

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