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Can we win the Flag?

Post: # 549166Post saintgus »

Do you think we can win the Flag this year. Personally, I think we can. I have criticised us heavily after our recent performances like everyone but i think we can still win the Premiership. Our list and form at full strength is simply too godd.
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Post: # 549167Post True Blue Sainter »

I think it's Geelong's year again. Hawthorn could challenge. If the Brisbane youngsters keep developing, with Leigh Mathews at the helm, they are capable of surprising, but aren't hard enough for Geelong.


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Post: # 549168Post Otiman »

Of course we can win it. We're still going full tilt for the flag this year, and whilst we are off to a shaky start, there's no panic stations and we are still in the race along with around 14 other clubs.


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Post: # 549169Post saintgus »

is harves playing this friday?


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Post: # 549170Post brown-coat »

I hereby decree that we won't be making the finals this year.


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Post: # 549175Post jonesy »

No chance,unless...

Harves get's a time machine and we replace his body with the 98 version.

All the players that have not delivered or gone backwards due to either injury or form. Ie- Ball,Clarkes,Maguire,Kosi,Fiora,etc,finally play to there potential

Our players learn how to kick overnight

Some of our players find miraculous foot speed

Ross Lyon figures out how to coach us



Therefore,it's not likely we will win the flag this year


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Post: # 549178Post perfectionist »

yes and no.


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Post: # 549179Post Rooy_coin »

yeah we can win the flag... perhaps when its 2025 ???? :D


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Post: # 549181Post Shaggy »

I don’t think so.

We have a fundamental problem that our players cannot run out RL’s game plan.

But we are great for one or two quarters before we tire.


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Post: # 549183Post Juggernaut »

of course we can......
Look at the ladder in 1997 after round 5, 1 win 4 losses I think 15 on the ladder.... Finshed the H&A in first I don't want mention what happened after that


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Post: # 549187Post Rooy_coin »

Juggernaut wrote:of course we can......
Look at the ladder in 1997 after round 5, 1 win 4 losses I think 15 on the ladder.... Finshed the H&A in first I don't want mention what happened after that

that was 1997 this is 2008 different times, different team, different style, different coach


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Post: # 549191Post Saints Premiers 2008 »

we can

get a few wins in any form and the confidence shall grow...


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Post: # 549202Post spert »

Every team in the comp at this point has a chance to win the flag -might be a different story in 6-8 weeks though. Some teams have ordinary starts to a season, don't impress anyone, then come home with a wet sail..you never know.


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Post: # 549210Post midas_touch »

Gotta wait till mid season to be able to make an accurate assesment of things. Having said that, we need to improve our game by 200% if we are to have any sort of chance.


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Post: # 549219Post tedzeeki »

Are you kidding? Have you been to the last couple of games?
If we play like we did against the Bulldogs and like we did against the Cats particulally in the 3rd quarter, we will be lucky to not to win the spoon.
Our key forwards can't kick a goal from 30 metres out and our skills are hope less.


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Post: # 549221Post vacuous space »

Sydney and Geelong were both 2-2 after 4 rounds.


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Post: # 549299Post StSteven »

Certainly not this year........

Stating the Cats were 2-2 is ridiculous, bottom teams probably were also.


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Post: # 549307Post vacuous space »

StSteven wrote:Stating the Cats were 2-2 is ridiculous...
Really? It's a statement of fact. Not many thought the Cats were flag-bound after R4 07.


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Post: # 549308Post Behind Play »

There is a lot of work to be done if we were to be a real contender. My only question is have we the players to turn it around?


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vacuous space wrote:
StSteven wrote:Stating the Cats were 2-2 is ridiculous...
Really? It's a statement of fact. Not many thought the Cats were flag-bound after R4 07.
nobody should be thinking anywhere near a flag at this time of the year...a team might look good but big whoop

the dogs wont come close and they are 4-0...the hawks should fade away...who knows...geelong might all get injured...


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Post: # 549325Post StSteven »

There is NO comparison between the Cats and us........just take a look, they are years ahead and have new kids coming in and performing better than us.

We need a rebuild.....dare I say it but many are!


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Post: # 549330Post Shaggy »

vacuous space wrote:
StSteven wrote:Stating the Cats were 2-2 is ridiculous...
Really? It's a statement of fact. Not many thought the Cats were flag-bound after R4 07.
But the cats never changed course in terms of the way they played and when the confidence came as they matured it clicked.

The Saints have changed course and whilst we are now at our maturity or close to our blokes are not cut out for the new game plan IMO.

Its not easy to sprint 100 times 40 - 100 meters in 90 minutes. Can you do it? Most of ours can't.

IMO we need to stay in our zones on one to one. We don't have the requisite stamina for zoning the back line at all cost.

So we can't win this year because we are not athletically capable of carrying out the coaches plan (IMO).


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Post: # 549332Post Lennon »

No.

We're not in the same league as Geelong, or Hawthorn.

You can say it's early on if you like, but I don't see us improving so drastically, or the better teams' form dropping off so drastically, that we could win the flag.
Shaggy wrote:
So we can't win this year because we are not athletically capable of carrying out the coaches plan (IMO).
Pretty much.

We need a new game plan... perhaps a new coach.
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Post: # 549338Post perfectionist »

Rooy_coin wrote:yeah we can win the flag... perhaps when its 2025 ???? :D
Rubbish, maybe 2897.


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StSteven wrote:There is NO comparison between the Cats and us........just take a look, they are years ahead and have new kids coming in and performing better than us.

We need a rebuild.....dare I say it but many are!
Totally agree, we really need to trade players that have not come on -
1. Starting in the mid-field.we need players that are quick and can kick goals.
2. Favorite sons have come to the end.....I don't mean, Robert he does have this season left, if managed correctly.
3. Start playing kids for the long term.
4. We need a couple of hard nuts.


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