Eleven reasons why we won't win another game in 2008

[perfectionist]

No 8
No 11
No 13
No 17
No 19
No 24
No 32
No 33
No 40
No 42
No 44

None of them can win a contest let alone actually do something with the ball if they get it although, in that respect, they are like almost everyone else in the team.

I saw not one Saints player accurately dispose of the ball with the non preferred foot. Last night, I saw fifteen Geelong players do it. How can that be?

We are unbelievably slow - even slower than Collingwood!

The fastest player in the team, physically and mentally is the oldest. Riewoldt with a broken hand took more contested marks than the rest combined. Our backman think contested marks are something other clubs do.

We will be smashed in the last three games.

[SaintWodonga]

Should be 10 reasons.. I think no. 13 played well tonight. Was not in our worst half by a long shot...

[battye]

And #44... what game were you watching?

Half the time it was Milne by himself in the forward line against 3 or 4 opposition players? That's not his fault.

Despite that he still escaped with a couple of goals and he put in a lot of effort. He did his job.

[Ralphy]

number 8.... seriously... you are disturbed

[fugazi]

Leave Max of that list!

[davidgrantfan]

I thought 13 and 44 stood up tonight. 44 was stiff to get pinged on that run in for goal...I thought it was a too high tackle. Schneider played ok and kicked a nice pass early in the game to Roo I think it was... Both kicked goals as well, incl another boundary line "miracle" from Milne who does this so often we tend to take it for granted...

[StSteven]

Boy you are an easy marker if 44 is considered to have an ok game.

[Ralphy]

Boy you are an easy marker if 44 is considered to have an ok game.

he was one of our best last night, and played a good game.

[Animal Enclosure]

Milne's effort was selfish & very ordinary.

His defensive efforts were disgraceful & kicking two goals papered over his overall game.

Very disappointing but once again, Yapper fails on the big stage.

[plugger66]

Milne's effort was selfish & very ordinary.

His defensive efforts were disgraceful & kicking two goals papered over his overall game.

Very disappointing but once again, Yapper fails on the big stage.

So does your memory.

[Ralphy]

he is a forward ffs, he doesnt play in defense, lay off him
WAIT
maybe we should trade him as well cause we have already listed half the f****** team up for trade.

[perfectionist]

number 8.... seriously... you are disturbed

Max - Kicking: 2 out of ten
- Contested marking: 0 out of ten (never taken one)
- Uncontested marking: 3 out of ten (punches anywhere most times)
- Thinking: 1 out of ten (there's a man who's covered, I'll kick to him)
- Hard running: 5 out of ten (cf Scarlett)
- Fisting ball from pass to opponent: 8 out of ten
- Foolish courage: 10 out of ten

Unfortunately, whilst foolish courage might attract hero worshippers it is not high on the list of football skills.

[davidgrantfan]

"Milne's effort was selfish & very ordinary."

fair enough...wasn't his best game, but he did put goals on the board and we didnt have enough players capable last night to contribute in that dept.

he also spent time at FF where I think it's just stupid to play him, have you ever stood beside him and noticed how short and small he is? What is that about? Would Richmond have ever played Kevin Bartlett at Full fwd?

[Saints43]

And #44... what game were you watching?

It's the people who watch every game on TV that wreck this forum.

They see about one twentieth of the playing field yet they're the one's who are the most ardent supporters of the "it's the players" association.

If they were at the game they would realise how often there is no-one to kick to. That a lot of our poor kicking is due to players attempting to "pull" kicks to get the least worst result.

[4ever_saint]

#42 a bit harsh IMO. its his first year and last night he hardly got any game time. granted that was probably deserved but you cant blame our failure on a 19/20 year old first year player.

he will probably be playing in casey anyways from here on out anyways as i'd imagine and hope that ross will be cleaning house this week for this weeks must win game against fremantle. IMO quite a few players will be dropped.

[davidgrantfan]

""It's the people who watch every game on TV that wreck this forum""


yes, there is no substitute for being at a game.

Example...watching Milne playing for Casey the week he got dropped. It wasnt a comfortable track like the Dome. He got down and dirty, ran all day, was geeing up the players at every break, listening intently to the coach, and mentally right in he zone..almost scarily so.

I think he kicked about 4 and set up a few more.. After the siren, he went to every opposing team player and shook their hand. He was last off the field by minutes,....(it was cold and dark), humbly signing autographs for every child who wanted one and speaking to anyone who wanted to talk. Milne was last to the showers..

Another player might have easily extricated himself out of that whole humiliating scenario as soon as the bell rang, but Milne treated that whole gameday gracefully and as seriously as any major game I've seen him in.

You dont see that on tv.

[StSteven]

All very nice about Milne but his output is not good enough at this level. It is this mediocrity that we are beginning to accept in an environment of low level performance by the rest of the team.

[Animal Enclosure]

Milne's effort was selfish & very ordinary.

His defensive efforts were disgraceful & kicking two goals papered over his overall game.

Very disappointing but once again, Yapper fails on the big stage.

So does your memory.

Do explain Plugger...

When has Yapper delivered when it really matters? His pressure was non existent last night, he still gets brushed aside in his tackles & he still gets caught trying to do too much. I saw him a number of times last night hanging back hoping to get a cheap kick when a teammate was outnumbered by filth players who invariably took the ball away.

He was rubbish & so is your holier than thou response. Argue with a point but stop with this 'so does your memory' sarcasm.

[plugger66]

Milne's effort was selfish & very ordinary.

His defensive efforts were disgraceful & kicking two goals papered over his overall game.

Very disappointing but once again, Yapper fails on the big stage.

So does your memory.

Do explain Plugger...

When has Yapper delivered when it really matters? His pressure was non existent last night, he still gets brushed aside in his tackles & he still gets caught trying to do too much. I saw him a number of times last night hanging back hoping to get a cheap kick when a teammate was outnumbered by filth players who invariably took the ball away.

He was rubbish & so is your holier than thou response. Argue with a point but stop with this 'so does your memory' sarcasm.

He is a forward pocket and relies on the side playing well for a start. he has also kicked vital goals this season and his game alone probably helped win 2 games which is probably 2 more than most of the side this year. If he is out then we will play short next week as he has been far from the worst this season. Yes he wasnt great last night but again he was better than 6-8 players and that was a poor game for him.

[henno]

Surely take number 32 off that list.

He's shut down four good quality midfielders in the last weeks, didnt have the best night against the pies but he goes in hard and shows the toughness and thirst that some of our key players (e.g. dal) are lacking.

[davidgrantfan]

""When has Yapper stood up when it rea;ly matters?""


try this one....

Media Articles and Stats: Tigers fall by three to Saints in thriller
« on: May 04, 2008, 12:24:09 am »

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Tigers fall by three in thriller
Matt Burgan
10:00 PM Sat 03 May, 2008

ST KILDA 4.4 7.5 13.7 17.8 (110)
RICHMOND 4.1 9.4 13.8 16.11 (107)

Goals:
St Kilda: S Milne 7 C Gardiner 2 R Harvey 2 F Gehrig N Riewoldt A Schneider D Armitage S Birss N Dal Santo.
Richmond: M Richardson 5 T Simmonds 2 N Brown 2 S Edwards 2 M Morton 2 M White 2 J Riewoldt

Best:
St Kilda: S Milne R Harvey L Ball N Dal Santo A Schneider S Fisher.
Richmond: T Simmonds N Brown M Richardson B Deledio L McGuane K Johnson

Umpires: H Kennedy, S Wenn, T Keating

Official crowd: 40,585 at Telstra Dome

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RICHMOND has lost a thrilling encounter to St Kilda in the most dramatic of circumstances after a Jack Riewoldt kick after the siren was unable to score the goal that would have given the Tigers victory at Telstra Dome on Saturday night.

For the victors, livewire Stephen Milne played a blinder, booting seven goals, and for the Tigers Matthew Richardson and Brown also played beauties""

[Otiman]

Should be 10 reasons.. I think no. 13 played well tonight. Was not in our worst half by a long shot...

#13 played his best game in a saints jumper.

[saint66au]

perfectionist..whilst you are of course entitled to your opinion, your constant criticism of #8 does you no favours IMHO

He obviously was still hampered with injury last night but you seem to take every opportuinity to have a crack, yet remain silent when he plays well.

Very disrespectful to the best fullback weve had in a very long time, since Bob Murray Id dare to say

[SainterX]

No 8
No 11
No 13
No 17
No 19
No 24
No 32
No 33
No 40
No 42
No 44

None of them can win a contest let alone actually do something with the ball if they get it although, in that respect, they are like almost everyone else in the team.

I saw not one Saints player accurately dispose of the ball with the non preferred foot. Last night, I saw fifteen Geelong players do it. How can that be?

We are unbelievably slow - even slower than Collingwood!

The fastest player in the team, physically and mentally is the oldest. Riewoldt with a broken hand took more contested marks than the rest combined. Our backman think contested marks are something other clubs do.

We will be smashed in the last three games.

Max Hudghton can't win a contest?



Guess it must have been Franklins night off when we played Hawthorn then, and Pretty Boys day off when he kicked none on Max.

Get real

[Ralphy]

bit of a d**khead if he says maxxie cant win a contest.
he has bet nearly every forward he is on ...
and yeah he cant win a contest.