Is King the best recycled Ruckman we've had recently?

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Is King the best recycled Ruckman we've had recently?

Post: # 629474Post Mr Magic »

In the last 8 or so years we've picked up the following 'recycled' ruckmen:
Monkhorst
Capuano
Knobel
Brooks
Ackland
Rix
Clarke
Gardiner
King.

Have any of them performed consistantly well enough to be termed a 'success'?

Has any of them performed better than King for us (I know it's noteven a full season from him yet)?

If you go back another decade we have had guys like Lazar, Harding and Wow who performed reasonably well for us.


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easy, noone talks about him or gives him credit for giving us at least half a chance in comparison to none


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Saints Premiers 2008 wrote:easy, noone talks about him or gives him credit for giving us at least half a chance in comparison to none
agreed. i have liked the way he has gone about it this season.


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Post: # 629492Post mad saint guy »

King had a good patch midway through the season but I think he's slowing down a bit now. I'd like to see him rested this week and Gardiner (who could turn out to be better than King) to take the rucking duties).

In terms of actual performance of our recycled rucks then King would probably be just below Ackland (who did finish 8th in our B&F).


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Post: # 629493Post Zed »

yes - easily the best recycled ruckman

although if M Gardiner could put together an uninterrupted season he may just surprise a few


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Post: # 629496Post TimeToShineFellas »

Gee having a look at that list he has got daylight behind him for the next best recycled ruckman.

I won't pump his tyres up, but suffice to say a few of my manic Geelong mates were gutted they gave him away for nothing.

Having his experience is going to be invaluable in the next 1-5 weeks.


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Post: # 629499Post joffaboy »

Ex club captain, premiership player, experienced campaigner, and it shows.

Just from what I have seen on the field, he has embraced his mew club and teammates. At the end of games goes to all of the other players and really pumps them up.

I really like his attitude and as i said you can see why he was a club captain - born leader.

We got smashed in the clearances in qtr1 on Sunday. IMHO it was a mistake to start Kosi in the ruck. When King came on the team steadied and eventually started to win the clearances.

Really happy with King this year and Charlie to a lesser extent. Two good valuable players for nothing. Schnieds has also started to show something and Dempster has been probably best of the lot.

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Post: # 629500Post Saints94 »

Looking at that list King would flog them all but

still very injury- prone


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Post: # 629502Post suss »

I really like the way he stands up for his team mates e.g. the Ball incident against the Dockers earlier in the year. And he was at it again on Saturday too after someone was pole axed near bay 40. Go KINGY! :twisted:


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suss wrote:I really like the way he stands up for his team mates e.g. the Ball incident against the Dockers earlier in the year. And he was at it again on Saturday too after someone was pole axed near bay 40. Go KINGY! :twisted:
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Post: # 629506Post Saintschampions08 »

Thought the most memorable part of last week, was when we got a run on in the 4th quarter.

About 5 minutes in, after Milne (i think?) just kicking a goal, King got a

direct tap out straight to Goddard, who straight away kicked it to the

forward line...only to land in the hands of Riewoldt - 40 out straight in

front...

It followed with not only another goal, but both Goddard and King receiving the biggest pump ups i've seen in a while.


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Post: # 629512Post Saints Premiers 2008 »

if we have success later this year a bit would be attributed to king, it seems like he really enjoys playing with us and encouraging all and being part of it

he is always one of the first there after a goal is kicked

champ...lets hope he has a few more years like this yet!


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Post: # 629519Post saintly »

mad saint guy wrote:King had a good patch midway through the season but I think he's slowing down a bit now. I'd like to see him rested this week and Gardiner (who could turn out to be better than King) to take the rucking duties).

In terms of actual performance of our recycled rucks then King would probably be just below Ackland (who did finish 8th in our B&F).
according to those who went to training, Gardiner is still injured. if he doesn't play this week doubt he will get back in this season.


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Post: # 629520Post evertonfc »

Having a big impact and more proof as to why you can take short-term fixes in the ruck position - so long as you have a long term options waiting in the wings.

By the time King is finished with the Saints, McEvoy should be ready to go.

I guess the key with 'short-term' fixes is that they have to be able to add something to the team in that time, not just fill a hole. I don't believe in that; they need to be value-added players capable of improving the team.

King is doing exactly that. Well done to the big man.
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Post: # 629521Post saintsRrising »

We have not had many ruckmen from other clubs that have gone well for us.


Vidovic is about the only earlier one that readily springs to mind..


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mad saint guy wrote:King had a good patch midway through the season but I think he's slowing down a bit now. I'd like to see him rested this week and Gardiner (who could turn out to be better than King) to take the rucking duties).

In terms of actual performance of our recycled rucks then King would probably be just below Ackland (who did finish 8th in our B&F).
I think he that far in front of Ackland it is not funny.


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Post: # 629523Post evertonfc »

In 2005, Ackland was very good for us. Don't forget that.


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Post: # 629536Post matrix »

i copped a fair bit when we picked him up (crows and power fans)
saying we had done it agian, taken an aging ruckman who is past his prime.

i was rather happy that we got him, and i looked forward to him becoming a solid part of our team.

looking back now..........i would say im very happy of his efforts, skills and leadership this season.
be nice if could play ALL the games, but hey, thats what happen as u get older.
best ruckman we have had in friggin ages.
step it up for the finals kingy!!!!


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Post: # 629539Post St. Luke »

I'm very impressed with him. He's also come packed with a fair whack of professionalism and determination. He gets the big thumbs up from me! Great stuff from Kingy!


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His ruckwork has being reasonable but I wouldn't say his around the ground

work has being all that good. He has played his best against those teams

that have no ruckmen, but soundly beaten by the better ruckman around.

I think he has done a job, but I wouldn't want him going around again next

year.


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Post: # 629545Post markinUSA »

I really like him. He has so much enthusiasm, he is a great team player, and he always gives 100%. I've been really impressed with him. Glad he plays for us.


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Post: # 629567Post plugger66 »

Probably the best on the list but apart from 2 or 3 games he has been an average player. Will not figure in top 10 for B&f says about where he is at.


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Post: # 629662Post st_Trav_ofWA »

the thing i like about him is he genuinely wants to succeed with the team he puts in the effort like hes always been a saint ... unlike Clarke last year who treated it as a one last payday King actually seems to Want to be there and wants to give it his all .

nice bloke to talk to aswell i think we did well


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Post: # 629692Post BigMart »

Ackland was very good in 2005......

Vidovic is extremely overrated on here.....he spent over half of his 10 years at Moorabbin in the reserves......he played 90 games from 1990 to 1998....


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Post: # 629694Post St. Luke »

I'd still like to see him float up and be another forward marking option (if he has been at any stage I can't remember seeing him up there??). Apparently HE CAN kick goals!


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